tdeyette Posted June 28, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I tend to read articles like this with a grain of salt so to say, but I’m disheartened to find the Crown Princess number 4 on the list, with a failing grade. (especially since we just booked on her for 2019) Hope this is a wake-up call and things are set straight. We have really enjoyed cruising on Emerald in the past so we are hoping to find a similar experience on the Crown. link to article here: https://www.thestreet.com/amp/slideshow/14200433/1/the-14-worst-cruise-ships-on-the-cdc-s-inspection-list.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivesLikeMario Posted June 28, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I sure hope the crew on the Crown get their act together since we have one booked on that ship as well. The last time we were on the Crown (2 yrs. ago), everything went just fine. But, after seeing that score, it is definitely worrisome. I hope it encourages them to work really hard in improving their cleaning processes. Kinda makes you wonder if this has contributed to some of the reported illnesses onboard this particular ship. I was surprised to see the Oceania Regatta and the 2 RCI ships but with crews changing out all the time, it could just be a matter of poor leadership when new crew come onboard. Who knows? Hope they improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srpilo Posted June 28, 2017 #3 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Crown 84... Ouch !! Srpilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisequeen4ever Posted June 28, 2017 #4 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The first thought I had when I saw the thread title was "Crown Princess". That poor ship has had far too many issues. One thing to consider with this article, though, is that ships don't have to report issues while in Europe, so for instance, the Celebrity cruise I just disembarked with a huge noro outbreak probably won't even be mentioned in the US, other than by Pax. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristyMisty14 Posted June 28, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'm going to also take this article with a grain of salt, based on the part where they have an Oceania ship at the number 2 spot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGAfhc Posted June 28, 2017 #6 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The report, if anyone is interested, is here https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionDetailReport.aspx?ColI=MTkzMDAyNTA%3d-BSqn1VBKrT8%3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare azbirdmom Posted June 28, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The report, if anyone is interested, is here https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionDetailReport.aspx?ColI=MTkzMDAyNTA%3d-BSqn1VBKrT8%3d Yuck! Violations (and flies) in pretty much every area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 28, 2017 #8 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I just got off of the phone with the public relations department at Princess, and they assured me that there have been no recent bad inspections of the Crown. I'm guessing that this article is what they refer to as "click bait". Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreaminofcruisin Posted June 28, 2017 #9 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I am sure Princess doesn't appreciate the negative publicity. Since I will be on the Crown in the Fall, I am going to think positively. In most businesses, if something 'bad' is published, the people at the top, throw all kinds of people at the problem to make it better. Hopefully, it will be excessively monitored (to the point that the crew is driven crazy with the required cleanliness) now to avoid a repeat..... That's the positive spin anyway.... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 28, 2017 #10 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The inspection in question is from early April, seems like lots of minor stuff. The article leads you to believe it's much worse. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGAfhc Posted June 28, 2017 #11 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The inspection in question is from early April, seems like lots of minor stuff. The article leads you to believe it's much worse. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I agree, I have chipped paint at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 28, 2017 #12 Share Posted June 28, 2017 You can also read the report showing the corrective measures taken by Princess. Many were immediate. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 28, 2017 #13 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Believe me, the kitchens in our own homes are filthy compared to most commercial kitchens, simply because of the surfaces we choose for designer purposes instead of health and safety. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dickinson Posted June 28, 2017 #14 Share Posted June 28, 2017 You can also read the report showing the corrective measures taken by Princess. Many were immediate. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Do you have a link? I couldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 28, 2017 #15 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Do you have a link? I couldn't find it. On the link where you read the report, towards he top, on the right is a link to "view corrective action statement" Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dickinson Posted June 29, 2017 #16 Share Posted June 29, 2017 On the link where you read the report, towards he top, on the right is a link to "view corrective action statement" Sent from my iPhone using Forums Thanks! I saw it but didn't know I had to click on "acknowledge" in order to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardou544 Posted June 29, 2017 #17 Share Posted June 29, 2017 We were on the Crown 2 years ago. We were delayed boarding due to a noro outbreak. It was a nightmare of a cruise because many got I'll on the cruise. We're going to be on the Crown in October, we hope things have mellowed out. Not at all surprised at the Carnival Legend. Our cabin was aft and there was a continuous smell of rotting garbage on our deck near the aft stairs. Sent from my SM-T550 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted June 29, 2017 #18 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Here is a link to the actual CDC scores: https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionSearch.aspx These reports are very important to all cruise lines and taken quite seriously. It can even end careers of some key ship personnel. To the "Oceania" fan who takes the report with " a grain of salt" we suggest that is like just closing your eyes to a major facet in the cruise industry. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 29, 2017 #19 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The same site lists Princess as one of 11 lines with the cleanest ships. OY! https://www.thestreet.com/slideshow/14200471/1/11-cruise-lines-with-the-cleanest-ships.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Masterson Posted June 29, 2017 #20 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I read the report for the Coral which I'm sailing on in 10 days. It was much better. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonbeam Posted June 29, 2017 #21 Share Posted June 29, 2017 These reports are a snapshot in time, just like restaurant inspections. One bad score is not indicative of a standing problem, inspectors vary as does ships' staff. Sometimes doing the inspection at different ports will yield different results, there can be a lot of recent turnover, etc. The lines look at trends so if they notice a trend of bad inspections following a certain EC for example (or staff captain etc), that person may not be long in that position in the fleet. Prior to the 84, the last three on the crown were 94,98,94 for example. With only one <90 prior, 84 is bad but not a critical level. On a single inspection basis, look at the types of issues and for recurring issues- On the 84 for the crown there were two serious and system issues, badly maintained equipment and poor ice machine maintenance (the rest were primarily paperwork and minimal insect issues). Those two items would concern me as ice machines are a major contamination risk and poorly maintained equipment is indicative of not enough attention being paid to maintenance. Looking at the corrective action report, the mixers were removed and the ice machines got a thorough cleaning, that said, if the same issues were found on a second inspection that would have me reconsidering cruising this particular vessel for a while. (Side note - it is almost impossible to completely remove pests from food service, while they have to be noted, a single fly or two in a few locations really should not be considered a deducted violation in my book.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted June 29, 2017 #22 Share Posted June 29, 2017 NORO is everywhere. Every cruise ship has had NORO issues at some point including every Princess ship in the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnocket Posted June 29, 2017 #23 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I just got off of the phone with the public relations department at Princess, and they assured me that there have been no recent bad inspections of the Crown. I'm guessing that this article is what they refer to as "click bait". Sent from my iPhone using Forums With all due respect, it sounds like Princess lied to you. I'd certainly say the 4/8/17 report qualifies as a "recent bad inspection". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Woobstr112G Posted June 29, 2017 #24 Share Posted June 29, 2017 You can also read the report showing the corrective measures taken by Princess. Many were immediate. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Good to hear.....:):):) Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted June 29, 2017 #25 Share Posted June 29, 2017 With all due respect, it sounds like Princess lied to you. I'd certainly say the 4/8/17 report qualifies as a "recent bad inspection". 4 months is recent!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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