navybankerteacher Posted August 25, 2017 #26 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I have difficulty understanding why two people who use the same habits and precautions in the same cabin don't both become Ill with noro. One does and the other doesn't. Wouldn't that indicate some activity is aided by ones immune system? The same would apply to almost all ailments and diseases. Silly supposition - unless they mimicked each other EXACTLY , one is bound to have a different experience - say touching that one spot on a handrail which had been recently touched by a carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReillyPup Posted August 25, 2017 #27 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I get in the elevator and step to the back to let others in, then ask them to hit my floor Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted August 25, 2017 #28 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Silly supposition - unless they mimicked each other EXACTLY , one is bound to have a different experience - say touching that one spot on a handrail which had been recently touched by a carrier. So you think I am silly. Is that better than coming up with a sensible response. I should expect no less from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted August 25, 2017 #29 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Knuckling the elevator buttons does nothing to protect you from any germs that may be on the buttons. The germs just get on your knuckle, and then when your hands touch each other get transferred. If you want to avoid germs from an elevator button use a tissue to touch the button and then throw it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marynjohn Posted August 26, 2017 #30 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I take immunosuppressive drugs (heart transplant) so I'm pretty careful about using knuckles, paper towel or sleeve on doors, and don't put silverware on the table. Sent from my SM-G925V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 26, 2017 #31 Share Posted August 26, 2017 So you think I am silly. Is that better than coming up with a sensible response. I should expect no less from you. Yes , to be unable to conceive the possibility that two people who share a cabin and virtually all activities might not, in the course of a day, touch different objects is indeed silly. Of course it is possible for one of them to contract noro while the other one does not - without it only being because one has better immunity. Yes, your supposition was silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted August 26, 2017 #32 Share Posted August 26, 2017 yes , to be unable to conceive the possibility that two people who share a cabin and virtually all activities might not, in the course of a day, touch different objects is indeed silly. Of course it is possible for one of them to contract noro while the other one does not - without it only being because one has better immunity. Yes, your supposition was silly.[/quote. And yours !!!! Also. Your inability to provide a sensible answer explains it. I asked about other diseases and illnesses but you picked one and ignored the entire concept of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted August 26, 2017 #33 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I do knuckle the elevator button. I also wash my hands before and after eating.Sent from my iPhone using Forums Same here! (y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebr.cruiser Posted August 26, 2017 #34 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I do normal routine things like hand washing, of course but do not at all obsess over touching surfaces. I don't knuckle, I touch the handrails, I just use the buffet in a normal way, etc. Rarely sick except for tree and weed allergies. I can't even remember the last time I had a cold, noro, flu, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 26, 2017 #35 Share Posted August 26, 2017 yes , to be unable to conceive the possibility that two people who share a cabin and virtually all activities might not, in the course of a day, touch different objects is indeed silly. Of course it is possible for one of them to contract noro while the other one does not - without it only being because one has better immunity. Yes, your supposition was silly.[/quote. And yours !!!! Also. Your inability to provide a sensible answer explains it. I asked about other diseases and illnesses but you picked one and ignored the entire concept of my post. You specified noro - then added other illnesses as a related afterthought. The fact remains: your supposition that one of a pair might contract a disease, while the other did not, was to be to be explained by one's immune system, because they engaged in the same activities, was indeed silly. At this point, your inability to accept that it was silly is simply further silliness. I have no interest in further discussion with you on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted August 26, 2017 #36 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I try to be as careful as possible. We have been on far too many ships with the Noro Virus and lots of people coughing. The big thing -- wash your hands and try to touch as little as possible. And avoid the public restrooms as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Itchy&Scratchy Posted August 26, 2017 #37 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I have difficulty understanding why two people who use the same habits and precautions in the same cabin don't both become Ill with noro. One does and the other doesn't. Wouldn't that indicate some activity is aided by ones immune system? The same would apply to almost all ailments and diseases. it happens. My friends (a married couple with two kids) were cruising a couple of years ago, and the husband came aboard with some kind of an intestinal bug (blames on a chicken salad at the cafeteria at work). He was quarantined in their cabin for 5 days, but wife and kids never got anything. Perhaps, it wasn't contagious and was just an upset stomach. At times when our kid gets roto- or noro- but the adults don't get it. Sometimes it runs through the family like wildfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanna Posted August 26, 2017 #38 Share Posted August 26, 2017 What about all the chips and cards in the casino? Do you disinfect each one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted August 26, 2017 #39 Share Posted August 26, 2017 The playing cards have to be thrown out after every use. The chips can easily be cleaned. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted August 26, 2017 #40 Share Posted August 26, 2017 How about the buttons on the slot machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanna Posted August 26, 2017 #41 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I accept that the chips can be easily cleaned BUT are they. Having played for an hour or two the chips are just re stacked by the croupier and then given back out to other players. Each chip could be harbouring germs. If you are so concerned wear surgical gloves for the rest of your life. LOL LOL LOL Tongue in cheek reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pris993 Posted August 26, 2017 #42 Share Posted August 26, 2017 no I wash my hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanna Posted August 26, 2017 #43 Share Posted August 26, 2017 in between each chip you play??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted August 26, 2017 #44 Share Posted August 26, 2017 They give you a fresh chips when you. The played are collected and removed from play. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croozengal Posted August 26, 2017 #45 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanna Posted August 26, 2017 #46 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Kamloops50, No sorry the croupier never gives you new chips, They are not removed from the table, they are put back into play. Croozengal...love it, was it raining by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie26 Posted August 26, 2017 #47 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I never remember to be cautious and I am rarely sick. I wash my own hands often but not excessively. I believe that there are more "good" germs out there then bad and I have built up a pretty heathy immune system. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 26, 2017 #48 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I never remember to be cautious and I am rarely sick. I wash my own hands often but not excessively. I believe that there are more "good" germs out there then bad and I have built up a pretty heathy immune system. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I hope you wash your own hands. Sorry I just had to go there. ;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker@sea Posted August 26, 2017 #49 Share Posted August 26, 2017 After year's of working with hazardous waste the thing is = Do Not Touch Yourself! Keep you finger away from your mouth, out of your nose , Do Not rub your eye's, your ear's or A-- . :evilsmile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzeluver Posted August 26, 2017 #50 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I am fortunate to have a healthy immune system and do not suffer from any neurosis such as germaphobia or obsessive compulsive disorder. I wash my hands after using the restroom but do not take any other precautions. I detest hand sanitizers. They smell awful and are very drying. If attempting (you will not be successful) to eliminate all germs and bacteria from your stateroom, would you not need to do the same for all public spaces? I am just trying to look at this from a logical standpoint. I do not need to engage in any behavior to make me "feel better". I push elevator buttons. I use handrails so I don't fall on my butt. That's me, living life on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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