pdaniel Posted October 1, 2018 #1 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The champagne pour on our recent Explorer cruise was Germain. Anyone familiar with this champagne? The welcome champagne was Jacquart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambagahle Posted October 3, 2018 #2 Share Posted October 3, 2018 There are two "Germain" champagnes - Champagne Paul-Etienne Saint Germain from Epernay and Champagne Germain Pidansat from Avirey-Langey Which one? Both are appélation contrôlée so both "real" champagnes but Eperney is the very centre of the Champagne area - Avirey-Langey is way south, in fact south of Troyes. Probably "limite" for the appellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdaniel Posted October 3, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Hambagahle, The champagne was Germain Champagne Reserve Brut. Sorry cannot post picture of label. The label does not match either champagne you mentioned. Thank you for your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdaniel Posted October 3, 2018 Author #4 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerncruising Posted October 3, 2018 #5 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Look it up on "vivino.com". It was perfectly drinkable but not quite dry enough for DW's taste. Piper Heidsieck was in our suite on arrival. Both different to previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaj girl Posted October 3, 2018 #6 Share Posted October 3, 2018 We had Montaudon on this year's WC but when we returned to the Navigator in August it was nowhere to be found. We were told that they had run out....but it looks as though they have changed the offerings to Germain. NOT happy....:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted October 3, 2018 #7 Share Posted October 3, 2018 We had Montaudon on this year's WC but when we returned to the Navigator in August it was nowhere to be found. We were told that they had run out....but it looks as though they have changed the offerings to Germain. NOT happy....:mad: If hat is a permanent change, we won't be happy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudhen Posted October 3, 2018 #8 Share Posted October 3, 2018 We had Montaudon on this year's WC but when we returned to the Navigator in August it was nowhere to be found. We were told that they had run out....but it looks as though they have changed the offerings to Germain. NOT happy....:mad: ut oh....."sacre bleu !" Not happy on the East Coast as well.....Not thinking it's a deal breaker, but with the new pricing structures, it should be better than that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winters Gate Posted October 3, 2018 #9 Share Posted October 3, 2018 One should be happy that they serve some kind of champagne at all, thats not always the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz_Steve Posted October 5, 2018 #10 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Life is too short to drink bad wine. If they are serving Champagne it should at least be reasonable. Serving average Champagne just so you can say you are serving Champagne is a black mark in my books. I was looking forward to trying the Mountadon on my upcoming cruise in November on Voyager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul&Shark Posted October 5, 2018 #11 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If hat is a permanent change, we won't be happy either. Now this is very interesting! It goes to show that it is all about taste....Montaudon ( I like it very much) is for sale in the supermarket for 13 dollar. Jaquart sells for 34 and Germain R B goes for 39 ! So Regent is doing well IMHO. :halo: PAUL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalbecWine Posted October 5, 2018 #12 Share Posted October 5, 2018 What Champaign do you get in the MS on the Explorer? What I have read it is mediocre Champagne. On Crystal you get Veuve Clicquot or Cristal and sometimes Dom Perignon. In the CP it is replaced as needed. When you pay for a high end suite it should be better than the bar pour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudhen Posted October 5, 2018 #13 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Now this is very interesting! It goes to show that it is all about taste....Montaudon ( I like it very much) is for sale in the supermarket for 13 dollar. Jaquart sells for 34 and Germain R B goes for 39 ! So Regent is doing well IMHO.:halo: PAUL WOW! Montradon for 13$....for a full bottle? or maybe a split? If it's for a full bottle, 13$ is a give away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambagahle Posted October 5, 2018 #14 Share Posted October 5, 2018 "Champagne" doesn't mean much It means that the grapes that made the wine were grown in the Appellation Contrôlée area in France. Some are good. Some are great. Some are not. And much depends on the taste of the drinker as well. Silly to get excited about a "normally poured" champagne. Regent will not say it is champagne unless it is...the real stuff. But the real stuff varies a lot. Even within the same cave or vigneron. Living here in Europe I have particular "tastes" and "feelings" about which champagne I like. Mostly it is Vincent Joudart, from Fèrebrianges. But you won't find his wines on any boat...his production is too small. Otherwise I am more than happy with Veuve Cliquot. NOT with Dom Pérignon. Way too acid for my taste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted October 5, 2018 #15 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Now this is very interesting! It goes to show that it is all about taste....Montaudon ( I like it very much) is for sale in the supermarket for 13 dollar. Jaquart sells for 34 and Germain R B goes for 39 ! So Regent is doing well IMHO.PAUL It is all about taste - agree with you. I don't care for the taste of Jacquart but enjoy Montaudon. Never heard of Germain R B. Now that we are Titanium Seven Seas Society members, we get a bottle (only one) of Veuve Clicquot which is our favorite (preferred over "Dom"). When I Googled Montaudon, the prices I saw were higher than quoted (see below - if the copy and paste worked) MontaudonBrut - 750mlTotal Wine and More$34.99 MontaudonBrut - 1.5LTotal Wine and More$79.99 MontaudonBrut - 375mlTotal Wine and More$24.99 MontaudonBrut ChampagneNV /...WineTransit.com$34.99 NV MontaudonBrut, Champagne,...Woods Wholesale Wine$29.98 MontaudonReims Brut Champagne...Wired For Wine$37.97 As people that have sailed Regent in the past few years know, the bar champagne and the champagne in your suite are not generally the same thing. If they give us Jacquart, we return it to the butler. It sounds as if Crystal has different champagne on their ships which is their choice and if that is what cruisers want, Crystal is likely a good cruise line to sail on. Regent is what it is - take it or leave it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sweethearts Posted October 5, 2018 #16 Share Posted October 5, 2018 What Champaign do you get in the MS on the Explorer? What I have read it is mediocre Champagne. On Crystal you get Veuve Clicquot or Cristal and sometimes Dom Perignon. In the CP it is replaced as needed. When you pay for a high end suite it should be better than the bar pour. We had Veuve Cliquot in our Master Suite on the Navigator in May and before that in our Explorer Suite on the Explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted October 5, 2018 #17 Share Posted October 5, 2018 We had Veuve Cliquot in our Master Suite on the Navigator in May and before that in our Explorer Suite on the Explorer. This is true - you do get one bottle upon embarkation. I generally save it and share it with another couple during the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong1 Posted October 6, 2018 #18 Share Posted October 6, 2018 But of course, I would guess that you could use OBC's to get most any champagne you liked, as long as it's physically on the ship. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul&Shark Posted October 6, 2018 #19 Share Posted October 6, 2018 WOW! Montradon for 13$....for a full bottle? or maybe a split? If it's for a full bottle, 13$ is a give away! It is the regular 70c bottle. For sale at DEEN Supermarket. They have 83 outlets. If you like Heineken, a case with 24 30c bottles is for sale there at 12 bucks. Enjoy!:halo: Paul You might try LIDL or ALDI supermarket as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Got2Cruise Posted October 6, 2018 #20 Share Posted October 6, 2018 We didn’t have time to drink our champagne so we packed it up in our suitcase along with the 2 lb box of Belgium chocolates our TA gifted us 🤣 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudhen Posted October 6, 2018 #21 Share Posted October 6, 2018 It is the regular 70c bottle. For sale at DEEN Supermarket. They have 83 outlets. If you like Heineken, a case with 24 30c bottles is for sale there at 12 bucks. Enjoy!:halo: Paul You might try LIDL or ALDI supermarket as well. Wonderful if you're in Europe! We have a local Aldi's but no alcohol....phooey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted October 6, 2018 #22 Share Posted October 6, 2018 We are on Mariner. The champagne being poured in the bars at present is “Monopole”. Sommelier said they would normally pour “Germain”, but they have run out; it appears that ”Montaudon” is no longer stocked on board. “Veuve Cliquot” is available at extra cost (one welcome complementary bottle for those in upper named suites) Rose champagne and vintage champagnes are also available from the Premium selection (Connoisseur wine list) Hope this helps you champagne buffs out there :) (Would have posted earlier but internet has been very intermittent during the past week :() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted October 6, 2018 #23 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Wonderful if you're in Europe! We have a local Aldi's but no alcohol....phooey! Do you remember when Regent served Heidsieck Monopole champagne? I liked it (prices below). The only champagne I could find with the name "Germain" was much cheaper than Heidsieck Monopole. The next time you see me onboard I may not be drinking my "normal" champagne drink before dinner! Heidsieck, Monopole'Blue Top'...Sherry-Lehmann Wine & Spirits$32.95 Heidsieck Monopole Blue Top -...Total Wine and More$39.99 Thierry Germain, 'Bulles De...Sherry-Lehmann Wine & Spirits$19.95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFr Posted October 6, 2018 #24 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Do you remember when Regent served Heidsieck Monopole champagne? I liked it (prices below). The only champagne I could find with the name "Germain" was much cheaper than Heidsieck Monopole. The next time you see me onboard I may not be drinking my "normal" champagne drink before dinner! Heidsieck, Monopole'Blue Top'...Sherry-Lehmann Wine & Spirits$32.95 Heidsieck Monopole Blue Top -...Total Wine and More$39.99 Thierry Germain, 'Bulles De...Sherry-Lehmann Wine & Spirits$19.95 Jackie, One of the main reasons the Thierry Germains are cheaper is that they are not champagnes. Instead, they are sparkling wines from the Loire. After long experience, I have come to the conclusion that price is not an absolute indicator of quality. I have found that too many people judge a wine with their eyes by reading the label and the price tag instead of actually tasting the wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted October 6, 2018 #25 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Jackie, One of the main reasons the Thierry Germains are cheaper is that they are not champagnes. Instead, they are sparkling wines from the Loire. After long experience, I have come to the conclusion that price is not an absolute indicator of quality. I have found that too many people judge a wine with their eyes by reading the label and the price tag instead of actually tasting the wine. Dave, you are absolutely right. I learned this by attending several Connoisseur Wine Lunches on Regent. There are some very pricey wines that just do not taste good to me while some inexpensive wines taste great. Perhaps I do not have a good palate. As I've mentioned, we are not Dom Perignon lovers but enjoy Veuve Cliquot and even some $20 bottles. For me, a champagne needs to be dry rather than sweet. So, if Regent is serving Thierry Germain (not even sure that is exactly what they are serving since posters just state "Germain) they cannot call it champagne since it is not. In any case, if Regent has 'Monopole' onboard, we'll be happy. Jackie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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