Sarahlm84 Posted November 16, 2018 #76 Share Posted November 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, garycarla said: Of course the Cruise Line wants to keep it rather quiet. Do not blame them at all. Can not believe the knife thing continues to pop up. As to the staff keeping track in the dining room - that is another laugh. Along with being very difficult, they have knives available in the buffet that NOBODY could keep track of. Really folks, do you think it is that hard to have a knife in your luggage? LOL! As to anyone worried about their family getting home - there should be no more concern than any other trip. Just one incident. Well my family is on the ship and the news is saying that the husband is NOT a suspect. So if he is not a suspect and this woman has passed away like this.... who is the suspect? They say there is video, you would think they would have a clear idea who the suspect is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstables Posted November 16, 2018 #77 Share Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sarahlm84 said: Well my family is on the ship and the news is saying that the husband is NOT a suspect. So if he is not a suspect and this woman has passed away like this.... who is the suspect? They say there is video, you would think they would have a clear idea who the suspect is. Well I haven’t read any news releases where it says the husband is not the suspect. Everything I have read refers to the victims partner being in custody and that no charges have be laid yet. I can’t imagine the authorities would have allowed passengers off the ship in Aruba if they did not have a suspect in custody or for the ship to sail on to Bonaire without arresting someone. What you are saying does not make sense and does not align with the media reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahlm84 Posted November 16, 2018 #78 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, dstables said: Well I haven’t read any news releases where it says the husband is not the suspect. Everything I have read refers to the victims partner being in custody and that no charges have be laid yet. I can’t imagine the authorities would have allowed passengers off the ship in Aruba if they did not have a suspect in custody or for the ship to sail on to Bonaire without arresting someone. What you are saying does not make sense and does not align with the media reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famski740 Posted November 16, 2018 #79 Share Posted November 16, 2018 This is an article posted today by Yahoo News UK: https://www.yahoo.com/news/murder-probe-woman-choked-thrown-top-deck-luxury-caribbean-cruise-ship-090302097.html The article states that the partner was taken off the ship in Aruba by authorities but has not yet been charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahlm84 Posted November 16, 2018 #80 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, famski740 said: This is an article posted today by Yahoo News UK: https://www.yahoo.com/news/murder-probe-woman-choked-thrown-top-deck-luxury-caribbean-cruise-ship-090302097.html The article states that the partner was taken off the ship in Aruba by authorities but has not yet been charged. And this one is from ABC and says he is not currently a suspect https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/fbi-investigating-death-woman-falling-death-cruise-ship-59230439 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstables Posted November 16, 2018 #81 Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sarahlm84 said: And this one is from ABC and says he is not currently a suspect https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/fbi-investigating-death-woman-falling-death-cruise-ship-59230439 Not sure which article is correct but the one from Yahoo News UK is more current than the ABC article. Perhaps Yahoo has the correct information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allaboutthecruisinlife Posted November 17, 2018 #82 Share Posted November 17, 2018 As mentioned before untrue rumors are out there. This was an unfortunate suicide. Very heartbreaking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog & Sea Hag Posted November 17, 2018 #83 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I’m still not convinced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycarla Posted November 17, 2018 #84 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Allaboutthecruisinlife said: As mentioned before untrue rumors are out there. This was an unfortunate suicide. Very heartbreaking. Source? Or is that another rumor? Edited November 17, 2018 by garycarla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrow72 Posted November 17, 2018 #85 Share Posted November 17, 2018 wow; all kinds of theories on here. Great detectives from afar. Suicide. Murder. Husband. Partner. He did it. He didn't do it. Video posted somewhere of an amputation? Poor woman; may she rest in peace and the creep that did this to her pay for the crime or her soul rest in peace if she did jump (sure doesn't sound like it but you never know unless you have all the facts). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted November 17, 2018 #86 Share Posted November 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, dcrow72 said: wow; all kinds of theories on here. Great detectives, but you never know unless you have all the facts). Which nobody does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrow72 Posted November 17, 2018 #87 Share Posted November 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Colo Cruiser said: Which nobody does. exactly my point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted November 17, 2018 #88 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Hopefully we all will soon find out what really happened to that poor woman so that people can stop speculating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allaboutthecruisinlife Posted November 17, 2018 #89 Share Posted November 17, 2018 7 hours ago, garycarla said: Source? Or is that another rumor? I know the couple. Wanting to put everyone’s mind at ease about a killer out there. Husband was asleep in the cabin it was 4am. Very sad situation. It is too bad that she choose this. Please keep her husband, children and grandchild in your thoughts and prayers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted November 17, 2018 #90 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Allaboutthecruisinlife said: I know the couple. Wanting to put everyone’s mind at ease about a killer out there. Husband was asleep in the cabin it was 4am. Very sad situation. It is too bad that she choose this. Please keep her husband, children and grandchild in your thoughts and prayers. Are you suggesting she committed suicide? King Edited November 17, 2018 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daka Posted November 17, 2018 #91 Share Posted November 17, 2018 We just returned home from that cruise....lots of rumors....the only fact is that there was an announcement over the ship PA, at about 3:30 Tuesday that there was an emergency on deck 7 at the lifeboats....we don't think that the announcement was intended for all the cabins to hear...someone push the wrong button? We saw Police board the ship at Aruba before any passengers were allowed off....the rest...speculation and rumor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted November 17, 2018 #92 Share Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Allaboutthecruisinlife said: I know the couple. Wanting to put everyone’s mind at ease about a killer out there. Husband was asleep in the cabin it was 4am. Very sad situation. It is too bad that she choose this. Please keep her husband, children and grandchild in your thoughts and prayers. and "exactly" how do you "know" this ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nukesubsailor Posted November 17, 2018 #93 Share Posted November 17, 2018 My, My, My. Too bad Joe Kenda wasn't on this cruise. He would solve the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseintoheaven Posted November 17, 2018 #94 Share Posted November 17, 2018 We are sitting in the airport after debarking what was otherwise a great cruise. In terms of this incident I feel it will be a long time before the rumors and speculation become fact. We heard various snippets aboard the ship, including the fighting in the casino prior to the actual tragedy. It seems most likely that this was a triangle of some sorts gone bad as most reports seemed to differentiate between the “muscular man” seen choking her before she went overboard and her husband. It was also theorized that those involved were part of a body building group onboard. In any case, Captain Nash announced Wednesday evening that there had indeed been a tragic death onboard, that the deceased and her family members had been disembarked in Aruba and we had been cleared to sail on to Bonaire. There were also repeated calls over the PA system the morning of the tragedy for the passengers in two cabins to contact guest services immediately - presumably family members or traveling companions, or possibly witnesses. Nothing good typically happens at 4:00 am....very sad and senseless. On another note, the issues mentioned on the prior cruise (noro, influenza) seemed to have resolved. We did have a delayed boarding for a deep cleaning, but other than that there were no protocols in place - self serve at buffet and salt and pepper on the table, etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted November 17, 2018 #95 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Thanks for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted November 17, 2018 #96 Share Posted November 17, 2018 11 hours ago, garycarla said: Source? Or is that another rumor? It was said the woman was having an onboard affair with one PAX in a group of weightlifters. In a drunken stupor, the perp strangled, and tossed her over the rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalsign Posted November 17, 2018 #97 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Another thought - some weight lifters/body builders are known to take steroids which can have the effect of making them susceptible to anger issues with or without alcohol So if the red mist rose it wouldn't matter whether they were on a ship or anywhere else all logical thought goes out the window - no pun intended 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted November 17, 2018 #98 Share Posted November 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Allaboutthecruisinlife said: As mentioned before untrue rumors are out there. This was an unfortunate suicide. Very heartbreaking. It was not a suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted November 17, 2018 #99 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, suzyed said: It was not a suicide. Is it true the woman was stabbed with a steak knife, choked, then thrown over the rail by her newly found onboard weightlifting paramour? King Edited November 17, 2018 by Kingofcool1947 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare leck57 Posted November 17, 2018 #100 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The speculative comments are mind boggling. Why comment if just about everyone has no idea what happened. I would be happy to see this thread locked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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