Krazy Kruizers Posted February 22, 2019 #26 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I just heard about this accident on the national news. Thankfully no one was injured. MSC ships will have damage to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted February 23, 2019 #27 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Always happy when no one is hurt. What a PR nightmare- I’m not sure I’ve ever seen two cruise ships from the same company Crunch :(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted February 23, 2019 #28 Share Posted February 23, 2019 You can really see the damage happening to the lifeboats here. Lots of videos on youtube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTheW0rld Posted February 23, 2019 Author #29 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Think about how many cameras were recording. This might be the most-filmed "crash" ever. I definitely saw one lifeboat flexing and popping. That can't be good. Edited February 23, 2019 by SeaTheW0rld . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted February 23, 2019 #30 Share Posted February 23, 2019 We were on a cruise once were we had the opportunity to have dinner with the Capt. and he told us that he did have to over rule the pilot and take over on a port call in Africa. I'm sure the tug boat Capt is also going to have to answer a lot of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted February 23, 2019 #31 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Orchestra will be stopping at an Emergency port today so authorities can assess the damage to the ship, at this stage no info on which port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimimatz Posted February 23, 2019 #32 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I read on Cruisetricks.de (German cruise expert website) that they already assessed the damages at anchor in Punta del Este two days ago and now decided to substitute Buzios with Itajaí. The ship arrived at the anchorage position in Itajaí at 8:00 LT. Not sure if they are too large to dock at the river cruise pier or if they need to anchor offshore due to the damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted February 23, 2019 #33 Share Posted February 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, sidari said: Orchestra will be stopping at an Emergency port today so authorities can assess the damage to the ship, at this stage no info on which port. The MarineTraffic website has her docking into Itajai today at 07:30 LT. Poesia scheduled to arrive at Santos, Brazil at 07:30 LT. Hopefully they can both be assessed and repaired. We have 90 days until we embark Orchestra, that should be long enough to fix her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despegue Posted February 23, 2019 #34 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Lots of people mentioning the word “ Blame”. Safety Management System and safety philosophy has a NO BLAME policy, where incidents are used to learn from and to make the operation Safer, and not to punish, unless deliberate disregard of procedures or gross negligence caused or attributed to the incident. this policy is nowadays adapted by all Cruiselines and Airlines and is a core value in the total Safety Policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted February 23, 2019 #35 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Have both ships been diverted from their original itinerary or just Orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted February 23, 2019 #36 Share Posted February 23, 2019 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted February 23, 2019 #37 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just been told that the Orchestra Captain is the same person who was on Musica when it ran aground ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted February 23, 2019 #38 Share Posted February 23, 2019 No wind involved! http://crew-center.com/msc-cruise-ships-collide-buenos-aires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted February 23, 2019 #39 Share Posted February 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, sidari said: Just been told that the Orchestra Captain is the same person who was on Musica when it ran aground ... Who was captain last year when Armonia crashed in Roaton? I believe that was equipment failure, but I'm not certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66Cruisin Posted February 23, 2019 #40 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 3:26 PM, Beamafar said: Cheers ... sounds like the cruise from hell! Wonder what sort of compensation's being offered. Did I hear something about full refunds? actually I was onboard the Epic and what we get is 100% credit of what was paid for that cruise towards a future cruise and up to $300 per person for airline change fees and depending on circumstances reimbursement for saturday night after arrival hotel although we could also stay onboard saturday night if we chose too 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted February 24, 2019 #41 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Poesia has docked in Santos as scheduled, Orchestra is on route to Rio, a day later than scheduled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted February 24, 2019 #42 Share Posted February 24, 2019 CruiseMapper has this as the description of the accident and damage On February 20, 2019, the fleetmates Orchestra and Poesia collided at Port Buenos Aires (Argentina). MSC Poesia was docked for a scheduled port stay (7 am - 1 pm) while MSC Orchestra was maneuvering for berthing. No injuries or pollution were reported. Both ships sustained only minor hull damages and were cleared to continue their voyages as planned. Reportedly, one of Orchestra's lifeboats (on Deck 7) was slightly damaged, while Poesia's bow had a visible scratch. The accident occurred at the end of 9-day South America cruise (itinerary Feb 11-20) roundtrip from homeport Buenos Aires to Uruguay (Punta del Este) and Brazil (Ilhabela, Rio de Janeiro, Buzios, Ilha Grande). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssmea03 Posted February 24, 2019 #43 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 4:19 PM, Beamafar said: As it's your thread, STW, can I ask you to elaborate on the Epic incident. I heard about there being one and I'd really rather not go over to the NCL thread to read about it. I only had cause, once, to go to another forum and that was because we were booked on Celebrity and I wanted to learn as much as I could. This one is about as much as I can deal with. Oh you definitely don't want to loose any sleep over that Epic thread. Some imbecile turned it into a farcical argument over whether "gash" was a synonym for "dent"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTheW0rld Posted February 24, 2019 Author #44 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, ssmea03 said: Oh you definitely don't want to loose any sleep over that Epic thread. Some imbecile turned it into a farcical argument over whether "gash" was a synonym for "dent"! NCL people don't play nicely with each other. Another reason not to do business with that line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted February 24, 2019 #45 Share Posted February 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, SeaTheW0rld said: NCL people don't play nicely with each other. My curiosity is aroused, now. Maybe I'll take a gander over to the forum and check it out! 😝 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTheW0rld Posted February 24, 2019 Author #46 Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Beamafar said: My curiosity is aroused, now. Maybe I'll take a gander over to the forum and check it out! 😝 You could start with my "live from" thread. It got so heated it was eventually edited, severely, and closed. 😂 https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2627943-epic-failure-live-onboard-now-1262019/?tab=comments#comment-56643741 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted February 24, 2019 #47 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Fortunately we don't get too much of that, here (though there are one or two that like to stir it up a bit - I just ignore them. If it becomes a real pain, I'll put them on ignore. But that would only be in rare instances). There were a couple of threads on here a while back where it got similarly heated and edited; if I remember correctly one of them was about the nasty smell on Seaside when she first sailed. Edited February 24, 2019 by Beamafar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTheW0rld Posted February 24, 2019 Author #48 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beamafar said: Fortunately we don't get too much of that, here (though there are one or two that like to stir it up a bit - I just ignore them. If it becomes a real pain, I'll put them on ignore. But that would only be in rare instances). There were a couple of threads on here a while back where it got similarly heated and edited; if I remember correctly one of them was about the nasty smell on Seaside when she first sailed. Well, I'm done with them. I filled out the survey and named names (bad and good). That's all I can do. I submitted a review to CC, but they haven't published it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted February 24, 2019 #49 Share Posted February 24, 2019 If this incident happened to two NCL ships the thread would be 79 pages long by now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted February 25, 2019 #50 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I have just heard from a friend that the Orchestra Captain Vincenzo Bono has been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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