never_cruised Posted April 19, 2019 #1 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) I was watching some YouTube tours of the MS Koningsdam and really liked what I saw however I have a few questions in relation to Holland America and cruising Alaska with them. Do you ever see many kids on the later August cruises ? Our daughter has never liked the clubs onboard (feels she's to old lol) and at the time of travel will have become a teenager do you see many others at similar age on this cruise ? We really enjoy music especially live performances and like the look of some of the venues on this ship. Edited April 19, 2019 by never_cruised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crew News Posted April 19, 2019 #2 Share Posted April 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, never_cruised said: I was watching some YouTube tours of the MS Koningsdam and really liked what I saw however I have a few questions in relation to Holland America and cruising Alaska with them. Do you ever see many kids on the later August cruises ? Our daughter has never liked the clubs onboard (feels she's to old lol) and at the time of travel will have become a teenager do you see many others at similar age on this cruise ? We really enjoy music especially live performances and like the look of some of the venues on this ship. August does have more kids than normal as school vacation time is family travel season. The only time you see kids will be on some excursions and during meal hours as the Club HAL programs, especially for teens, keeps them occupied. One of the teen hangouts on the Konigsdam is the NY Pizza (free) just above the Lido indoor pool where they can design their own pizza. Here is a link to a typical Alaska teen program: http://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AL-15-Kids-13-17.pdf The konigsdam has a number of live music venues. Enjoy your cruise planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 19, 2019 #3 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Crew News said: August does have more kids than normal as school vacation time is family travel season. The only time you see kids will be on some excursions and during meal hours as the Club HAL programs, especially for teens, keeps them occupied. One of the teen hangouts on the Konigsdam is the NY Pizza (free) just above the Lido indoor pool where they can design their own pizza. Here is a link to a typical Alaska teen program: http://www.rogerjett-photography.com/here/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AL-15-Kids-13-17.pdf The konigsdam has a number of live music venues. Enjoy your cruise planning. With the pending legal decision to ban HAL/ Princess Carnival from US and Alaska ports due in June... I would wait till july. to book ,,,,,,,,,,, or look at NCL which is not being sued by the courts. Read up on the problem of HAL and others dumping waste in Alaska and the legal situation...... No joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted April 19, 2019 #4 Share Posted April 19, 2019 School starts in August for a lot of districts. Peak season for Alaska is mid-June to mid-August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 19, 2019 #5 Share Posted April 19, 2019 We have cruised Alaska the 3rd and 4th weeks of August as well as the first week of September. There were very few children on board the ships. Schools around here start the 3rd and 4th week of August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted April 20, 2019 #6 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Hawaiidan said: With the pending legal decision to ban HAL/ Princess Carnival from US and Alaska ports due in June... I would wait till july. to book ,,,,,,,,,,, or look at NCL which is not being sued by the courts. Read up on the problem of HAL and others dumping waste in Alaska and the legal situation...... No joke HAL is being sued by the courts? Let's not over react.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 20, 2019 #7 Share Posted April 20, 2019 14 hours ago, CruiserBruce said: HAL is being sued by the courts? Let's not over react.... Read the article Carnival the parent of HAL is being sued for incidents HAL westerdam did in Alaska So yes HAL, Princess Carnival...etc are all party to a court decision as to whether to ban ALL carnival family cruises from US ports..... They have already lost in court and WERE placed on probation..... and they violated their probation.!!!! This has made the court furious and stated ,they are considering a Carnival ban...across the board. It may be that because HAL was the violator that they alone will get banned.... June will be very interesting. As said read up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 20, 2019 #8 Share Posted April 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: Read the article Carnival the parent of HAL is being sued for incidents HAL westerdam did in Alaska So yes HAL, Princess Carnival...etc are all party to a court decision as to whether to ban ALL carnival family cruises from US ports..... They have already lost in court and WERE placed on probation..... and they violated their probation.!!!! This has made the court furious and stated ,they are considering a Carnival ban...across the board. It may be that because HAL was the violator that they alone will get banned.... June will be very interesting. As said read up.... Boy I hope they are not banned. I am scheduled to be on HAL the first two weeks in June. Does the judge have friends at RCI or Celebrity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted April 20, 2019 #9 Share Posted April 20, 2019 23 hours ago, Hawaiidan said: With the pending legal decision to ban HAL/ Princess Carnival from US and Alaska ports due in June... I would wait till july. to book ,,,,,,,,,,, or look at NCL which is not being sued by the courts. Read up on the problem of HAL and others dumping waste in Alaska and the legal situation...... No joke Lets not jump to collusions here and panic people, it is very doubtful that any ban would go into effect this year plus the economic impact to the ports, vendors, and Alaska tourism would be too catastrophic. If any ban was by some remote chance, to be imposed that decision would be appealed in the court systems and would take years to be totally adjudicated. Anyone who waits until July to book an Alaska cruise will most likely be too late. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 20, 2019 #10 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, terrydtx said: Lets not jump to collusions here and panic people, it is very doubtful that any ban would go into effect this year plus the economic impact to the ports, vendors, and Alaska tourism would be too catastrophic. If any ban was by some remote chance, to be imposed that decision would be appealed in the court systems and would take years to be totally adjudicated. Anyone who waits until July to book an Alaska cruise will most likely be too late. Howeve, its a very real situation that would not be wise to ignore. Carnival has made a lot of enemy's in the cruise world and they would be very happy to see the corp get smacked. There may be forces working behind the scenes to see the ban goes through, as it would benefit them There are many lines that would be eager to quickly fill and impact on Alaska, or any other region.... Economic impact would be short term and minimal in my opinion What ever happens it is a real situation discussed at length on other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted April 20, 2019 #11 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Hawaiidan said: Howeve, its a very real situation that would not be wise to ignore. Carnival has made a lot of enemy's in the cruise world and they would be very happy to see the corp get smacked. There may be forces working behind the scenes to see the ban goes through, as it would benefit them There are many lines that would be eager to quickly fill and impact on Alaska, or any other region.... Economic impact would be short term and minimal in my opinion What ever happens it is a real situation discussed at length on other posts. Cruise lines don't have extra cruise ships just sitting around, it would mean pulling ships from Europe, canceling Europe cruises, etc. Ain't going to happen. Things just can't evolve that fast. Carnival Corp has about 20 ships in Alaska...how the heck that volume be replaced and economic impact be stopped? Same, or even more for Caribbean sailings out of US ports. The economic impact to Alaska would be massive. Think on that for awhile. You said earlier Carnival was being "sued by the courts". Courts don't sue. In this case the court is supervising probation, in a case where the US Government brought charges in a federal court. Carnival Corp is not following it's probation requirements well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 21, 2019 #12 Share Posted April 21, 2019 7 hours ago, CruiserBruce said: Cruise lines don't have extra cruise ships just sitting around, it would mean pulling ships from Europe, canceling Europe cruises, etc. Ain't going to happen. Things just can't evolve that fast. Carnival Corp has about 20 ships in Alaska...how the heck that volume be replaced and economic impact be stopped? Same, or even more for Caribbean sailings out of US ports. The economic impact to Alaska would be massive. Think on that for awhile. You said earlier Carnival was being "sued by the courts". Courts don't sue. In this case the court is supervising probation, in a case where the US Government brought charges in a federal court. Carnival Corp is not following it's probation requirements well. wrong verbage...Carnival last year was cited by the authorities.... there was a trial Carnival found guilty... paid a 40 million fine and placed on 5 years probation.... Two years in they were found to have violated that probation. THey are already guilty , what remains is the punishment.. June we and carnival will know its fate. I doubt that Alaska or any other port will suffer there are plenty of replacements... waiting in the wings. That with Cuba being axed too... Big changes in any event Carnival has few friends............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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