Rare NMTraveller Posted October 20, 2019 #101 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, ldubs said: I think you hit the nail on the head. If everyone gets a 10, then there is no incentive to do better than the next guy. Thx. I fully agree. Fake 10s only breed mediocrity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Redking Posted October 20, 2019 #102 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Interesting thread. I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but I was told that in addition to scoring staff, the survey scores are also used to define what type of guest you are. From memory, guests providing scores in the 8 to 10 range are likely to be "promoters" of Celebrity. Guests providing mid range scores are "passives" and guests providing lower scores are likely to be "demoters" of Celebrity. Suggests that good old fashioned word of mouth marketing still holds value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruisingWalter Posted October 20, 2019 #103 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Not sure what the big deal is nor why you expected the survey to be completely anonymous. If someone is pouty or complaining that I didn't give them a good enough score on the previous cruise, do you think I'm going to score them higher? No, the score is going to go down. Please, let them see my scores and if they would like to receive a perfect 10, then address the issues I presented in the survey and earn it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruisingWalter Posted October 20, 2019 #104 Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Redking said: Interesting thread. I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but I was told that in addition to scoring staff, the survey scores are also used to define what type of guest you are. From memory, guests providing scores in the 8 to 10 range are likely to be "promoters" of Celebrity. Guests providing mid range scores are "passives" and guests providing lower scores are likely to be "demoters" of Celebrity. Suggests that good old fashioned word of mouth marketing still holds value? I think cruising, more than most any other form of vacationing relies the most on word of mouth today. Still so many misconceptions about cruising and ships that can only dispelled by people you know personally. We have many conversations with people who have never considered cruising because of outdated information or just plain not understanding what value a cruise brings to a vacation. And yes, if you give awesome scores, Celebrity will love you. Course that's true of any company in the hospitality and tourism industry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted October 20, 2019 #105 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I would love to see a survey sent to the crew that grades some of us as passengers. Now that would be hilarious! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruisingWalter Posted October 20, 2019 #106 Share Posted October 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, TeeRick said: I would love to see a survey sent to the crew that grades some of us as passengers. Now that would be hilarious! Better yet, I would love to get a survey that allows us to grade fellow passengers. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted October 20, 2019 #107 Share Posted October 20, 2019 23 hours ago, davekathy said: We did a 14 night cruise on the Summit in September and not one staff member ever said anything about a 10 score. We were reminded on the last evening to take the PCS when we got home. No biggie. So far I have been pretty lucky. My sister works on another cruise line (no, I cannot take advantage of any discounts as being a teacher my vacation is limited to high-traffic seasons) as a crew trainer. I usually politely let my stateroom host and dining room staff know that I understand the survey and rating system and will let them know if I have any problems well before the survey is to be completed. To this point that usually takes care of the constant speeches about it. (The funniest was when I was on HAL (a group I was with was using HAL...they have since changed). I had a hoodie from the other line (it was an Alaskan cruise and that was the only hoodie I had at the time), some of their shampoo and conditioner (Elemis products do not work for me), and a plush animal I found in Seattle we could not keep stocked in NYC. Got back to my cabin between our deck race and a stretching clinic on the first morning to find my stateroom host, a supervisor with clipboard and check list, and an assistant host in my cabin making sure everything was just right. I had not even had a reason to say anything - but they clearly knew I was accustomed to a certain level of service. Lol.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted October 20, 2019 #108 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, creativegenius said: Not sure what the big deal is nor why you expected the survey to be completely anonymous. It seems we both have something in common. We both appear to have a spine! No issues here giving an honest score. I'd happily tell any Celebrity staff why I gave them the score I did whether it be 4 or 10! I personally think scoring people higher than they deserve doesn't do anyone any favours. The staff, management and more importantly fellow passengers. They won't ever improve without helpful and constructive feedback. Why people fear some kind of retribution on a B2B is beyond me. If they're unworthy of a 9 or 10 rating, help them out and explain where they could improve to their face rather than hiding behind a BS, faceless survey. :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwcruisers Posted October 20, 2019 #109 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, creativegenius said: Better yet, I would love to get a survey that allows us to grade fellow passengers. 🙂 LOL -- you already have one. It's called the Cruise Critic boards!😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted October 20, 2019 #110 Share Posted October 20, 2019 These comments on holding waiters accountable for survey scores would seem to only apply to traditional dining. What about select where guest may have been served by a different wait staff each evening? Survey score would likely be an average of guest's overall experience. Unless waiter is mentioned by name how do they identify the good and the bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsacoker Posted October 21, 2019 #111 Share Posted October 21, 2019 My philosophy on surveys? I dont every rate someone or thing that I'm no willing to say to their face. I ever expect any survey to be anonymous even if they claim so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb317 Posted October 21, 2019 #112 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Don’t most businesses that survey their customers share results with their employees? The hospital I worked at always gave us a copy of any patient survey we were mentioned in, good or bad. The only thing that surprises me with Celebrity’s is how quick they seem to do so, it was usually months after the patient’s stay that results were shared with staff, many times you couldn’t remember who the patient wad😂. Sherri🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsacoker Posted October 21, 2019 #113 Share Posted October 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, sjb317 said: The only thing that surprises me with Celebrity’s is how quick they seem to do so, Sherri🙂 its good they share that quickly, if there is a problem or comment from another guest, I want them to correct / change it as soon as possible so I you you dont have the same experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvcrusn Posted October 21, 2019 #114 Share Posted October 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, Tulsacoker said: My philosophy on surveys? I dont every rate someone or thing that I'm no willing to say to their face. I ever expect any survey to be anonymous even if they claim so. That seems like a very sensible mode of operation to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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