Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #76 Share Posted May 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Deposits, $200 Princess, Oceania $1500 Still waiting to hear back from one of the TA's I requested a quote on for Oceania, waiting to see if any perks are kicked in with offer. Is the deposit only $100 pp on Princess wow i would go with Princess for Alaska It is a personal choice but sounds like Princess is a better fit for you As ORV pointed out on the air I would take the air credit if you do Oceania & DIY flights Enjoy what ever one you choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #77 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Is the deposit only $100 pp on Princess wow i would go with Princess for Alaska It is a personal choice but sounds like Princess is a better fit for you As ORV pointed out on the air I would take the air credit if you do Oceania & DIY flights Enjoy what ever one you choose I booked Princess back on February 28th, and yes it was only $100 per person, not exactly sure what it would be now though. What do you mean take air credit if going with Oceania? what does that mean? just book it as cruise only and find air ourselves later? Edited May 4, 2020 by Jimbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 4, 2020 #78 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 hours ago, LHT28 said: If you are going by the bottom line then take Princess Oceania is rarely cheaper than the main stream lines Do the "net daily rate" math as described by Jumbo. The bottom line daily cost for each cruise is almost exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #79 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Do the "net daily rate" math as described by Jumbo. The bottom line daily cost for each cruise is almost exactly the same. Yeah I see your point, cost per day is just about the same. and using Jim is fine :) Edited May 4, 2020 by Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 4, 2020 #80 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimbo said: All good points above but this isn't exactly apples for apples when it comes to the cabin..........The S6 Vista Suite is 525 sq.ft on Princess, while the A1 or A2 is only 216 sq. ft. on Oceania. Perhaps because we're yacht sailors, I've never understood the need for useless square footage when comparing cabins. IMO, I'd be more concerned about the quality of the bed, linens, technology, etc. FWIW, the quality of Oceania beds is so great that people actually go home and buy them via mail order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #81 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Perhaps because we're yacht sailors, I've never understood the need for useless square footage when comparing cabins. IMO, I'd be more concerned about the quality of the bed, linens, technology, etc. FWIW, the quality of Oceania beds is so great that people actually go home and buy them via mail order! You're killing me man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #82 Share Posted May 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Do the "net daily rate" math as described by Jumbo. The bottom line daily cost for each cruise is almost exactly the same. But as he posted they get free beverage package & PPG with Princess plus more space It is a personal choice I do not really care about the cabin size but others do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 4, 2020 #83 Share Posted May 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jimbo said: You're killing me man! Not trying to kill you. Rather, trying to slap you with reality as I shout "snap out of it." You're comparing Chevrolet to Audi for similarly priced products. Along these lines, I'm reminded of all the CC posters who say that the ship doesn't matter. That's ridiculous! The ship is where you eat and sleep. So, the last thing you need is bad food and a cheap mattress. And, as you yourself stated, the smaller ship may be more to your liking. Okay, but a better measure of you not feeling crowded or unattended is the ship's space and crew ratios which, on Oceania, will be far better than on Princess or any other mass market line. If you are a Princess regular, I can only think of one potential Oceania "negative" for you: Once you try Oceania, you'll probably not go back to Princess and will need to start a brand new loyalty program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #84 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: Not trying to kill you. Rather, trying to slap you with reality as I shout "snap out of it." You're comparing Chevrolet to Audi for similarly priced products. Along these lines, I'm reminded of all the CC posters who say that the ship doesn't matter. That's ridiculous! The ship is where you eat and sleep. So, the last thing you need is bad food and a cheap mattress. And, as you yourself stated, the smaller ship may be more to your liking. Okay, but a better measure of you not feeling crowded or unattended is the ship's space and crew ratios which, on Oceania, will be far better than on Princess or any other mass market line. If you are a Princess regular, I can only think of one potential Oceania "negative" for you: Once you try Oceania, you'll probably not go back to Princess and will need to start a brand new loyalty program. Not a princess regular, was only going to try them because so called King of Alaska, our first cruise to Alaska was a a B2B on Celebrity which did West Coast from San Diego 7 day Itineray and did Alaska from Vancouver, on 2nd leg 7 -day....... Cruiseline we travel on most is RCL Edited May 4, 2020 by Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #85 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Okay, my travel agent just got back to me I asked about a A2 Category cabin, list price on Oceania web site is $9698.00 cruise only. He came back with an offer for cruisefare, tax and fees of $8623.00 for Category A2 He said he doesn't really offer any perks because he just discounts right off the top of the cruisefare... if he is discountng that much..wonder how high the commssion is on this kind of booking? Also said I get to pick 1 of the 3 below perks from Oceania, which is a better value? we are not huge drinkers......thinking maybe excursions may be best to take with so many ports, but how do you know what the costs of excursions you pick might be or what they allow? but $600 in pocket is good too? What's best? Plus O' Life:FREE - 6 Shore ExcursionsFREE - Beverage PackageFREE - $600 Shipboard Credit Now it really seems like a no brainer.........just cabin won't be as large. I guess we could get over that? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted May 4, 2020 #86 Share Posted May 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: linens Thousand thread count sheets were heaven 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 4, 2020 #87 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Okay, my travel agent just got back to me I asked about a A2 Category cabin, list price on Oceania web site is $9698.00 cruise only. He came back with an offer for cruisefare, tax and fees of $8623.00 for Category A2 He said he doesn't really offer any perks because he just discounts right off the top of the cruisefare... if he is discountng that much..wonder how high the commssion is on this kind of booking? Also said I get to pick 1 of the 3 below perks from Oceania, which is a better value? we are not huge drinkers......thinking maybe excursions may be best to take with so many ports, but how do you know what the costs of excursions you pick might be or what they allow? but $600 in pocket is good too? What's best? Plus O' Life:FREE - 6 Shore ExcursionsFREE - Beverage PackageFREE - $600 Shipboard Credit Now it really seems like a no brainer.........just cabin won't be as large. I guess we could get over that? Right? I know you don't want to hear it but, time for the CC Search to understand the intricacies of which O Life perk works best for you. But, know that the value of the SBC option divided by $100 = # of O Life tours (i.e., $800 = 8 tours). However, the allowable tours can be up to $199. So, if you pick those, your $800 value can be up to $1600. And those tours count toward the minimum number required for the YWYW 25% discount. What's YWYW? Use the search feature to find my (and other) extensive previous posts on that and other cost saving Oceania tips. You can find the tours with cost on line or you can call O and get a PDF. BTW, if you take the SBC option, it is non-refundable. Personally, I'd want to make sure that mY CC is charged only by Oceania for the booking cost on an Oceania invoice. For the deal, I'd want refundable SBC or a rebate for all the obvious reasons. Edited May 4, 2020 by Flatbush Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #88 Share Posted May 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Okay, my travel agent just got back to me I asked about a A2 Category cabin, list price on Oceania web site is $9698.00 cruise only. He came back with an offer for cruisefare, tax and fees of $8623.00 for Category A2 He said he doesn't really offer any perks because he just discounts right off the top of the cruisefare... if he is discountng that much..wonder how high the commssion is on this kind of booking? Is that price cruise only? If so no O Life perks included I personally would take the cruise only fare but that is me You can check the excursions on the O site for this year & see what they have the O Life one do not include any with OS/OE or other letters after the description That will be 6 per CABIN so 3 each https://www.oceaniacruises.com/shore-excursions/#destinations=alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted May 4, 2020 #89 Share Posted May 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Plus O' Life:FREE - 6 Shore ExcursionsFREE - Beverage PackageFREE - $600 Shipboard Credit Nothing in life is free - these are "included" but not free. You can get a cruise without O Life (in this case $600 less w/o O Life). If you choose O Life you get to pick only 1 out of the three. Forget the SBC - you are paying $600 ahead of the time only to get the $600 back (and you have to spend it all as it is non-refundable). Are you going to spend $600 on drinks? If so and more, then that is a good deal. For us excursions are the best deal. Not all excursions are included - anything with a letter (OE, OS, OC,etc) is not included in O Life. You are paying $600 for 6 excursions (3/pp). Most of the excursions cost more than $100 - some up to $199 - so you getting a better return on your investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #90 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Paulchili said: Nothing in life is free - these are "included" but not free. You can get a cruise without O Life (in this case $600 less w/o O Life). If you choose O Life you get to pick only 1 out of the three. Forget the SBC - you are paying $600 ahead of the time only to get the $600 back (and you have to spend it all as it is non-refundable). Are you going to spend $600 on drinks? If so and more, then that is a good deal. For us excursions are the best deal. Not all excursions are included - anything with a letter (OE, OS, OC,etc) is not included in O Life. You are paying $600 for 6 excursions (3/pp). Most of the excursions cost more than $100 - some up to $199 - so you getting a better return on your investment. So tell me this? if I select one of the 0-Life Perks is my travel agent listed above is he going to charge me an additional $600 ontop of his $8623 quote above he quoted me? $9223? or is it if I tell him I don't want the o_life perk he is going to take $600 off his quote to make the cost of the cruise go down to $8023? Edited May 4, 2020 by Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #91 Share Posted May 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Is that price cruise only? If so no O Life perks included I personally would take the cruise only fare but that is me You can check the excursions on the O site for this year & see what they have the O Life one do not include any with OS/OE or other letters after the description That will be 6 per CABIN so 3 each https://www.oceaniacruises.com/shore-excursions/#destinations=alaska good question , I have to email him again and ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #92 Share Posted May 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jimbo said: So tell me this? if I select one of the 0-Life Perks is my travel agent listed above is he going to charge me an additional $600 ontop of his $8623 quote above he quoted me? $9223? or is it if I tell him I don't want the o_life perk he is going to take $600 off his quote to make the cost of the cruise go down to $8023? You need to clarify if the quote was for " cruise only " or for the cruise with O Life / no air or Cruise with air /O Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #93 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LHT28 said: You need to clarify if the quote was for " cruise only " or for the cruise with O Life / no air or Cruise with air /O Life He got back to me: The A2 without the perk is $ 8098 inclusive of taxes and fees final price + 1 perk = ???? $ 8623 What should I do? So he is charging $525 for $600 OBC.....even though it still maight be better to take 6 excursions, since I may be able to double them up for close to $1200 Edited May 4, 2020 by Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #94 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimbo said: He got back to me: The A2 without the perk is $ 8098 inclusive of taxes and fees final price + 1 perk = ???? $ 8623 What should I do? Personal choice Do what works best for you If you want the O Life perk & do ships tours then choose the excursion option You can choose the O Life now and you can change it before final payment if you should just want the cruise only option You may want to shop around with other agents to see if they will include the gratuities or look for an agent that is part of " Oceania cruise Connoisseur Club " JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #95 Share Posted May 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Is that price cruise only? If so no O Life perks included I personally would take the cruise only fare but that is me You can check the excursions on the O site for this year & see what they have the O Life one do not include any with OS/OE or other letters after the description That will be 6 per CABIN so 3 each https://www.oceaniacruises.com/shore-excursions/#destinations=alaska So 6 excursions is really only us 2 taking 3 excursions, they don't show prices on the link you picked, but I'm pretty sure some of those excursions are close to $200 each, so I guess that is how you kind of double up excursion money to be worth close to $1200.......so am I understanding this correctly now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted May 4, 2020 #96 Share Posted May 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jimbo said: So 6 excursions is really only us 2 taking 3 excursions, they don't show prices on the link you picked, but I'm pretty sure some of those excursions are close to $200 each, so I guess that is how you kind of double up excursion money to be worth close to $1200.......so am I understanding this correctly now? Most excursions range from $100 to $200 for the O Life So if you find ones for around the $200 mark you benefit with the O Life perks Yes if you both did the same excursion you would get 3 each or you could do 5 & travel companion do 1 either way you get 6 TOTAL Another thing is you MUST book the excursions at least 14 days prior to sailing You could look at some of the sailing in the summer & see what they are offering in the ports here is one to start you off they show the prices https://www.oceaniacruises.com/Alaska-cruises/seward-to-vancouver-REG200713/port-skagway-SKA/?voyageday=6#all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted May 4, 2020 #97 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Jimbo, for me and my sole personal opinion this is a 1000000% no brainer.... As much as I love Oceania, keep your Princess itinerary. Alaska is about the itinerary.... not the food or the ship. I know you followed our live thread on that special Ovation sailing last year. The Princess itinerary with both Glacier Bay and Hubbard is extremely rare and outstanding! (plus add Ketchikan, Icy Strait and Sitka as well). Plus when leaving out of Vancouver you'll cruise through the British Columbia inside passage rather than heading out 100 miles off the west coast of Vancouver Island... calmer water and gorgeous British Columbia scenery. By the way, plan to stay in Vancouver minimum one full day pre or post cruise else you will regret it. Easy flights Vancouver to/from NJ... Air Canada non-stop (daily)... great flights. There are also plenty of 1-stop connections (Alaska/Seattle, Delta/Minneapolis, American/Dallas). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #98 Share Posted May 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hoopster95 said: Jimbo, for me and my sole personal opinion this is a 1000000% no brainer.... As much as I love Oceania, keep your Princess itinerary. Alaska is about the itinerary.... not the food or the ship. I know you followed our live thread on that special Ovation sailing last year. The Princess itinerary with both Glacier Bay and Hubbard is extremely rare and outstanding! (plus add Ketchikan, Icy Strait and Sitka as well). Plus when leaving out of Vancouver you'll cruise through the British Columbia inside passage rather than heading out 100 miles off the west coast of Vancouver Island... calmer water and gorgeous British Columbia scenery. By the way, plan to stay in Vancouver minimum one full day pre or post cruise else you will regret it. Easy flights Vancouver to/from NJ... Air Canada non-stop (daily)... great flights. There are also plenty of 1-stop connections (Alaska/Seattle, Delta/Minneapolis, American/Dallas). Now you're killing me...........I know the Princess 10 day itinerary is a no brainer, compared to the Oceania 12 dayer.........extra 2 days are sea days in the Pacific Ocean after Victoria which may be really bad in the fall on a small ship. Rocking and Rolling!! My wife I know will not care for that. Well then, maybe just maybe we should replace the soon to be canceled cruise by RCL our Adventure of the Seas September 2020 cruise from Bayonne (New England/Canada) that will more then likely be canceled, take the cash refund from that one and apply it to a Oceania cruise either Spring 2021 or Spring 2022. Now there's an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted May 4, 2020 #99 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Well then, maybe just maybe we should replace the soon to be canceled cruise by RCL our Adventure of the Seas September 2020 cruise from Bayonne (New England/Canada) that will more then likely be canceled, take the cash refund from that one and apply it to a Oceania cruise either Spring 2021 or Spring 2022. Now there's an idea. That is a brilliant idea!!! 😀 So try to book an Oceania cruise one either Marina or Riviera... better specialty restaurants, better public venues, bigger staterooms, decent productions shows. Do you want to see the world Jimbo? In Feb I was on Marina Brazil to Argentina, with a land trip to Iguassu Falls. My friend, in my top ten trips ever. Marina does a 10 night sailing next year with only one sea day. The Marina 10 day British Isles sailing also has an awesome itinerary (Scotland/Ireland) Edited May 4, 2020 by Hoopster95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 4, 2020 Author #100 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoopster95 said: That is a brilliant idea!!! 😀 So try to book an Oceania cruise one either Marina or Riviera... better specialty restaurants, better public venues, bigger staterooms, decent productions shows. Do you want to see the world Jimbo? In Feb I was on Marina Brazil to Argentina, with a land trip to Iguassu Falls. My friend, in my top ten trips ever. Marina does a 10 night sailing next year with only one sea day. Cha Ching !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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