Flatbush Flyer Posted December 7, 2020 #1 Share Posted December 7, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR2WQmVBriFMH_VO-iwA56Zs9VGhk1WvaEKyw22HFFFxA_vFxuIuBDvGRBo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 7, 2020 #2 Share Posted December 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Flatbush Flyer said: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR2WQmVBriFMH_VO-iwA56Zs9VGhk1WvaEKyw22HFFFxA_vFxuIuBDvGRBo Interesting. One category that is too vague is Health risk. Without further breaking it down it puts someone with only hypertension into the same group as someone who is immuno compromised with severe heart disease and renal disease. Obviously they do not have the same Health Risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Noxequifans Posted December 8, 2020 #3 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted December 8, 2020 #4 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Noxequifans said: Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds. Are you anticipating some massive conspiracy to pervert the whole vaccination by priorities strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 8, 2020 #5 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Apparently interesting research underway as to wether a mix and match approach of 2 different vaccines gives better protection, rather than 2 shots of the same vaccine. Because the Pfizer and the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines work in a different way against the virus, having a mix & match may be more effective. As expected, it appears the worldwide rollout is going to be a very long process. I have read that after the initial batch of the Pfizer vaccine into the US , the contracts they have with other countries put further deliveries some time away. 2021 will remain a year of transition, not normality I reckon. Edited December 8, 2020 by Tranquility Base 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 8, 2020 #6 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Indonesia has received their first batch of Vaccine from China. This is good news, as Indonesia has the greatest number of cases in South East Asia. The initial delivery is only a small number, a couple of million, however China is delivering the raw material so that Indonesia can begin producing the vaccine locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 8, 2020 #7 Share Posted December 8, 2020 To be vaccinated or not to be vaccinated that is the question. The second person in the UK to receive the vaccine is one William Shakespeare. If this was done on purpose, then well done to the PR team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 8, 2020 #8 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tranquility Base said: Apparently interesting research underway as to wether a mix and match approach of 2 different vaccines gives better protection, rather than 2 shots of the same vaccine. Because the Pfizer and the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines work in a different way against the virus, having a mix & match may be more effective. I doubt that this should be the case for 2 reasons 1 Pfizer is most effective 7 days AFTER 2nd shot 2 Astra Zeneca is only 70% effective (vs 94% for Pfizer). JMO. Edited December 8, 2020 by Paulchili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Noxequifans Posted December 8, 2020 #9 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 hours ago, d9704011 said: Are you anticipating some massive conspiracy to pervert the whole vaccination by priorities strategy? As I said "will be very interesting" .... nothing more implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 9, 2020 #10 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Two health workers in UK have had an allergic reaction to the Pfizer vaccine on the first day. UK regulators issue a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 9, 2020 #11 Share Posted December 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tranquility Base said: Two health workers in UK have had an allergic reaction to the Pfizer vaccine on the first day. UK regulators issue a warning. Full disclosure - they both have a long history of multiple severe allergies and thus carry on them injections for allergic reactions at all times. People with similar histories will not be vaccinated at present. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate-AHF Posted December 9, 2020 #12 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 1:23 PM, Paulchili said: I doubt that this should be the case for 2 reasons 1 Pfizer is most effective 7 days AFTER 2nd shot 2 Astra Zeneca is only 70% effective (vs 94% for Pfizer). JMO. Here's some encouraging news re: Pfizer vax: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-pfizer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 9, 2020 #13 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kate-AHF said: Here's some encouraging news re: Pfizer vax: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-pfizer.html Yes, I've heard that as well after I posted my remarks. We are constantly learning more & more about COVID as well as the vaccines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 9, 2020 #14 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Paulchili said: Full disclosure - they both have a long history of multiple severe allergies and thus carry on them injections for allergic reactions at all times. People with similar histories will not be vaccinated at present. HUGE difference, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 10, 2020 #15 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Fox reports 2 Chinese companies have contracted to supply vaccine to : Turkey, Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Pakistan, Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 10, 2020 #16 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Tranquility Base said: Fox reports 2 Chinese companies have contracted to supply vaccine to : Have you seen any reports on the efficacy of the Chinese (orRussian) vaccines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted December 10, 2020 #17 Share Posted December 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Paulchili said: Have you seen any reports on the efficacy of the Chinese (orRussian) vaccines? If you search for....UAE Chinese Vaccine. I think CNN had a report from the UAE of 86% efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted December 10, 2020 #18 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgg Posted December 10, 2020 #19 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, SargassoPirate said: Thanks, Pirate, I needed the laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 10, 2020 #20 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) Almost passable Russian but otherwise a great idea 😀 Edited December 10, 2020 by Paulchili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted December 11, 2020 #21 Share Posted December 11, 2020 21 hours ago, tgg said: Thanks, Pirate, I needed the laugh. You're welcome. I can't claim credit for it. Someone sent it to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesGal Posted December 12, 2020 #22 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 12:23 AM, Flatbush Flyer said: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?referringSource=articleShare&fbclid=IwAR2WQmVBriFMH_VO-iwA56Zs9VGhk1WvaEKyw22HFFFxA_vFxuIuBDvGRBo Wow! The answer is depressing! Even though I'm OLDer than dirt, I have very good health, there are more than 63,000 persons in my county ahead of me, and we have a county-wide population of approx. 150,000. I don't think the calculation is correct. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridatravelersforlife Posted December 12, 2020 #23 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I will get vaccinated when it's convenient and sane. All my cruise plans are 2022 anyway. I will not wait in a line at CVS or Walgreens for hours. I'm too old to do the wait outside the store routine. The fact that both drugstores are trying to hire 10,000 medical personnel, nation wide, to supplement their pharmacists sticking needles is telling. It will be chaotic. In the mean time, I'll just practice good hygiene, wear a mask and let the masses fret and worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 12, 2020 #24 Share Posted December 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, floridatravelersforlife said: I will not wait in a line at CVS or Walgreens for hours. I'm too old to do the wait outside the store routine. I doubt very much that this is ho it will work 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted December 12, 2020 Author #25 Share Posted December 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, floridatravelersforlife said: I will get vaccinated when it's convenient and sane. All my cruise plans are 2022 anyway. I will not wait in a line at CVS or Walgreens for hours. I'm too old to do the wait outside the store routine. The fact that both drugstores are trying to hire 10,000 medical personnel, nation wide, to supplement their pharmacists sticking needles is telling. It will be chaotic. In the mean time, I'll just practice good hygiene, wear a mask and let the masses fret and worry. Are you aware that CVS alone has about 10,000 stores in the US? Walgreen's adds another 9,000+. If they plan to offer vaccinations during regular business hours, three Full-Time positions for seven days/wk coverage would be required. That said, and because many folks will opt for their own doc or clinic (along with the prioritization roll-out and less than "full buy-in" by the general populace), makes it unlikely that you'll encounter any long lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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