West Coast Gal Posted March 12, 2021 #101 Share Posted March 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, donaldsc said: We will end up with cruising being like flying on Spirit Airlines. Pay for your seat. Pay for your luggage. Pay for any food. Pay for use of toilet paper or haven't they instituted that policy yet. Nooooo! I booked DH on Spirit once and he said Never Again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted March 13, 2021 #102 Share Posted March 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, West Coast Gal said: We have those, it is called ENVO - pricey but lovely mask, we love them (as mush as you can enjoy any mask lol). Does not slip off your nose and is highly effective, and no fogging The tighter the mask the less glass fogging. My KN95 masks never cause any fogging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted March 13, 2021 #103 Share Posted March 13, 2021 12 hours ago, West Coast Gal said: We have those, it is called ENVO - pricey but lovely mask, we love them (as mush as you can enjoy any mask lol). Does not slip off your nose and is highly effective, and no fogging I looked at these on the company website; these look like an industrial mask for contractors. Is that what you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AnyMajorCruiseDude Posted March 13, 2021 #104 Share Posted March 13, 2021 These look nice, but seems like they are the type using a one way exhalation valve, so not allowed on most transportation since it allows your breath to escape unfiltered and don't protect others around you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AnyMajorCruiseDude Posted March 13, 2021 #105 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Interesting stance. Point was, if you are traveling, you won't be allowed to use this type of mask. I have used these valve masks for previous jobs, and they do in fact work well and never fogged my glasses. However these are not appropriate for travel or covid protection for others around you . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted March 13, 2021 #106 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, AnyMajorCruiseDude said: These look nice, but seems like they are the type using a one way exhalation valve, so not allowed on most transportation since it allows your breath to escape unfiltered and don't protect others around you. That’s my understanding also & is why my 3M N95 masks with a valve we bought before the pandemic to use for brushfire smoke is not acceptable for travel. “Mask should be a solid piece of material without slits, exhalation valves, or punctures”. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/masks/mask-travel-guidance.html Edited March 13, 2021 by Astro Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 13, 2021 #107 Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 hours ago, AF-1 said: I looked at these on the company website; these look like an industrial mask for contractors. Is that what you have? We do have them and they are really great! The gel around the mask makes it really comfortable and keeps glasses from getting fogged up. They don't move on your face, so you don't have to pull them up onto your nose constantly. DH prefers the over the ear, I prefer the over the head. That and how much protection they provide, it was been well worth the price for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 13, 2021 #108 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 hours ago, AnyMajorCruiseDude said: These look nice, but seems like they are the type using a one way exhalation valve, so not allowed on most transportation since it allows your breath to escape unfiltered and don't protect others around you. They now have a small cover for the vent, I just ordered that a week ago, so all the venting is now through the filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 13, 2021 #109 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Roberto256 said: I think having the exhalation valve would be excellent around the anti-maskers. They protect the wearer, while allowing the 'exhaust' out to the anti's. I am sorry to say, you did make me chuckle on this one and I felt guilty after I did! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted March 13, 2021 #110 Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, West Coast Gal said: They now have a small cover for the vent, I just ordered that a week ago, so all the venting is now through the filter. Hopefully that works for you when traveling although that would be subject to the interpretation of the rule by an employee who might not allow it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 13, 2021 #111 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Astro Flyer said: Hopefully that works for you when traveling although that would be subject to the interpretation of the rule by an employee who might not allow it. So true, to date when I have gone anywhere that is strict about it (most places indoors lol) they usually ask if there is a vent and I just put on a second procedural mask over it . . . so I am thinking when they ask, I will just say there are no open vents and see if that work, if not I will just continue to double mask. no biggie . . all the other features are work it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted March 13, 2021 #112 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, West Coast Gal said: So true, to date when I have gone anywhere that is strict about it (most places indoors lol) they usually ask if there is a vent and I just put on a second procedural mask over it . . . so I am thinking when they ask, I will just say there are no open vents and see if that work, if not I will just continue to double mask. no biggie . . all the other features are work it. Great idea...better to be prepared than depending upon someone’s interpretation of the rule. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AnyMajorCruiseDude Posted March 14, 2021 #113 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Having tried that, I can tell you it didn't work on an American Airlines flight, as well as a Delta fight. I had other masks in anticipation of this, so everything was ok, but you should be prepared. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 14, 2021 #114 Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 hours ago, AnyMajorCruiseDude said: Having tried that, I can tell you it didn't work on an American Airlines flight, as well as a Delta fight. I had other masks in anticipation of this, so everything was ok, but you should be prepared. Sounds good, and no worries, it is all about being safe! I just will put on a second mask. Actually surprised about American Airlines - I have a group of people at work, that have had to fly all through COVID and American Airlines has been very lax. 2 different times people have left the flight after boarding because of conditions of too many people on board and not enforcing masks being worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted March 14, 2021 #115 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, West Coast Gal said: American Airlines has been very lax. 2 different times people have left the flight after boarding because of conditions of too many people on board and not enforcing masks being worn. Was that before of after the a presidential Executive Order made it a rule that masks had to be worn on airplanes with a fine if non-compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted March 14, 2021 #116 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I think both American and Delta airlines do not want masks that have vents on them. This was their rule last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted March 14, 2021 #117 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Can you provide a link to buy the mask? I thought I saw it here but it is gone. What is the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted March 15, 2021 #118 Share Posted March 15, 2021 15 hours ago, oskidunker said: Can you provide a link to buy the mask? I thought I saw it here but it is gone. What is the price? Revolutionary reusable respirator masks | envo masks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted March 15, 2021 #119 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Re "Will Going Forward Ruin etc.". going forward always ruins things. Everyone who has been cruising for years will always tell you that it isn't as good as it used to be and that the cruise lines are getting cheap. The people who are starting to cruise around now or at least post Corona will be saying the same thing 10 years from now. DON 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 16, 2021 #120 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 1:16 PM, oskidunker said: Can you provide a link to buy the mask? I thought I saw it here but it is gone. What is the price? Are you talking the envomask just add a .com to that name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 16, 2021 #121 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 5:06 AM, AF-1 said: Revolutionary reusable respirator masks | envo masks you beat me to it, sorry for the duplicate answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Gal Posted March 16, 2021 #122 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 9:15 AM, donaldsc said: Re "Will Going Forward Ruin etc.". going forward always ruins things. Everyone who has been cruising for years will always tell you that it isn't as good as it used to be and that the cruise lines are getting cheap. The people who are starting to cruise around now or at least post Corona will be saying the same thing 10 years from now. DON SOOOOOO True! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowelf Posted March 16, 2021 #123 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 2/27/2021 at 2:43 PM, Thrak said: Facial recognition bombed on me at Heathrow because I was wearing my glasses. I was wearing them in order to read the directions at the passport kiosk. After it bombed a couple of times I was told to back out, remove my glasses, and try again. That worked. I can't imagine it working with a mask in place. I had the same thing happen in Italy in 2019. The automated kiosk did not recognize me until I took off my glasses and hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 19, 2021 #124 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/16/2021 at 2:32 PM, drowelf said: I had the same thing happen in Italy in 2019. The automated kiosk did not recognize me until I took off my glasses and hat. Not just required at airport. Every time cruise passengers return to the ship after a port visit, they are told to take off their hats and sunglasses so security manning the sea card scanner can confirm their ID against their pictures taken at boarding check in counter. I have no doubt masks will also have to come off as well for ID check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowelf Posted March 19, 2021 #125 Share Posted March 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, sfaaa said: Not just required at airport. Every time cruise passengers return to the ship after a port visit, they are told to take off their hats and sunglasses so security manning the sea card scanner can confirm their ID against their pictures taken at boarding check in counter. I have no doubt masks will also have to come off as well for ID check. Really, I've never had to take off my glasses when boarding a ship. I do take off my hat, as it generally will have a bunch of pins on it that would set off the magnetometer if I walked through it with it still on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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