Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales??? Anyone know

[VacationCharlene]

Good day everyone.  I have been watching, on this site,  to see if anyone knows of any special perks or opportunities coming up for Black Friday or Cyber Monday Sales with Holland America.  I am surprised no one has mentioned anything (unless I have just not seen it).  Discounted shore excursions maybe, gratuities included, drink package added, FREE something lol    Thanks in advance for any information.  Those travel agents always seem to be in the know early.  Have a great Thanksgiving :-)

[Mary229]

I was looking around Charlene.  I saw one British agency, sorry I don't remember who, mention an extended Have it All with gratuities and a $99 deposit. I have no idea if that will actually be the sale.    I think it is being kept under wraps until Tuesday.  Here's hoping for something that offers something to everyone, those who are booked and those who are wanting to book. 

[rodndonna]

There is banner currently stating BlackFriday sale starts in 1 day,10hours,28minutes....  😃

 

 

[AtlantaCruiser72]

HAL Black Friday/Cyber week offer is Pre-paid gratuities and reduced $99pp deposit. Does not combine with all fares or sailings.  For new bookings only, so existing reservations would have to be cancelled/rebooked at prevailing rates. Select agencies have it as a preview offer now prior to going national - it runs through Tuesday 11/30

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by AtlantaCruiser72

[mocruzer]

34 minutes ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

HAL Black Friday/Cyber week offer is Pre-paid gratuities and reduced $99pp deposit. Does not combine with all fares or sailings.

Thanks for the heads up😃

[AtlantaCruiser72]

Combines with:  Have it All fares, Advantage fares, Travel agent promotional group rates (with or without Have it all), Casino discount fares.  Does NOT combine with: Private Sale fares, Non-Refundable deposit fares, Flash Fares, Casino comp fares, or any other heavily discounted / restricted /promotional fare offer.

 

List of Eligible sailings:

[VacationCharlene]

AtlantaCruiser72 you ALWAYS have great information. Thanks so much. Really appreciate 

[mcrcruiser]

So if we are already booked ,we can't add  a package that includes the  tips ,drinks  , wifi  ie  ?   Is that true  ?

[AtlantaCruiser72]

18 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said:

So if we are already booked ,we can't add  a package that includes the  tips ,drinks  , wifi  ie  ?   Is that true  ?

 

The offer cannot be added to existing reservations.

 

You would need to cancel/rebook at prevailing fares/promotions, which will issue a new HAL booking #.  Any hotel, transfers or airfare through HAL will have to be rebooked as well.  Ancillary items you pre-purchased will be cancelled and the CC refunded and you will need to re-book them under the new reservation #.  The only thing that carries over to the new reservation are any deposit monies/FCC/FCD you have on the existing reservation.

[mcrcruiser]

3 minutes ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

 

The offer cannot be added to existing reservations.

 

You would need to cancel/rebook at prevailing fares/promotions, which will issue a new HAL booking #.  Any hotel, transfers or airfare through HAL will have to be rebooked as well.  Ancillary items you pre-purchased will be cancelled and the CC refunded and you will need to re-book them under the new reservation #.  The only thing that carries over to the new reservation are any deposit monies/FCC/FCD you have on the existing reservation.

Just seems to me that HAL  is using the cancel & rebook to gain a higher cruise price .  That being the case it is not worth  the perks . Thus ,imo HAL looses the extra monies that people would be willing to pay into the  new perk package . Also seems to me that Princess makes it a whole lot easier to do business ;as I have added  their plus package of perks to 2 existing cruises  .Then perhaps we may be better off  booking all future cruises with Princess .Yet it is difficult to understand is that we were able  Club Orange to a 18 Night Hawaii  Cruise with out cancelling &  rebooking  . Thus ,in effect HAL  allows one perk tp be added but then not another perk . Doesn't that seem to be a strange way of  doing business ?

[DaveOKC]

11 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said:

Just seems to me that HAL  is using the cancel & rebook to gain a higher cruise price .  That being the case it is not worth  the perks . Thus ,imo HAL looses the extra monies that people would be willing to pay into the  new perk package . Also seems to me that Princess makes it a whole lot easier to do business ;as I have added  their plus package of perks to 2 existing cruises  .Then perhaps we may be better off  booking all future cruises with Princess .Yet it is difficult to understand is that we were able  Club Orange to a 18 Night Hawaii  Cruise with out cancelling &  rebooking  . Thus ,in effect HAL  allows one perk tp be added but then not another perk . Doesn't that seem to be a strange way of  doing business ?

I think the reason might be is that Club Orange was designed to be an upsell package from the start.  Just my opinion.

 

[AtlantaCruiser72]

Club Orange is an ancillary product - like Cabanas, Spa passes, Specialty dining, Shore excursions, etc.  It is purchased as an add-on after booking and is not part of the cruise reservation itself.

 

"Have it All" is a bundled fare/pricing option that includes several items normally purchased separately.  Unlike Princess+ it is not a straightforward "x" $/day/pp above the Saver Fare.  There are numerous fare codes that Princess offers that are NOT combinable with Princess+ and some that are.  Have it All is similar in that it is not offered with many promotional fares (private sale, casino comps, non-refundable deposit fares, etc).

 

The Black Friday Sale is a limited time promotional pricing offer, and like all such offers, is designed to spur NEW bookings during the offer period.  It is not an add-on "perk" and the booking has to be refared to get it.  It combines with some, but not all other, fare driven offers. 

 

Corporate management has structured pricing/promotions in a way that they feel best matches the consumer buying habits of their clients for each brand, and to maximize revenue.  The fact that Princess+ and Have it All have different inclusions and a different pricing methodology speaks to that difference in consumer base.  If both brands consumers had similar purchasing habits then both brands would structure their bundled pricing offering the same.  Royal Caribbean and Celebrity are similar - Royal is 100% à la carte while Celebrity is focused on tiered pricing bundles.

[sfaaa]

4 hours ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

 

The offer cannot be added to existing reservations.

 

You would need to cancel/rebook at prevailing fares/promotions, which will issue a new HAL booking #.  Any hotel, transfers or airfare through HAL will have to be rebooked as well.  Ancillary items you pre-purchased will be cancelled and the CC refunded and you will need to re-book them under the new reservation #.  The only thing that carries over to the new reservation are any deposit monies/FCC/FCD you have on the existing reservation.

Which begs the question. If I have a NRD booking, would I be subject to cancellation penalty to rebook?

[AtlantaCruiser72]

2 hours ago, sfaaa said:

Which begs the question. If I have a NRD booking, would I be subject to cancellation penalty to rebook?

yep!  Cancel/rebook will result in full loss of deposit. NRD bookings allow absolutely ZERO changes, except within the NRD fare code itself to a different category. No switching to a different fare offering or promotion without full forfeiture of deposit.  

[glorialagos]

Now that I know "when", could someone help with the "how"?  My friend and I are planning to book a February cruise on Rotterdam and are happy to see the Black Friday sale.  Now - where do we find this?  Do we book directly with HAL?  We normally use ***** or similar sites.  Do we need to book with a travel agent?

 

Thanks for any tips.  I'm ready to be booked and then can start planning our trip!

[DaveOKC]

I just rechecked our March cruise and it would cost us $130 pp MORE to use the new Black Friday promotion (over what we booked 6 months ago), so be careful in rebooking.

[*Miss G*]

29 minutes ago, DaveOKC said:

I just rechecked our March cruise and it would cost us $130 pp MORE to use the new Black Friday promotion (over what we booked 6 months ago), so be careful in rebooking.

The sale doesn’t start for another 8 hours. Or did you check with your PCC and they gave you the info?

 

 

[DaveOKC]

I used the current HAL prices, which I figured would not go DOWN with the Black Friday sale (since they are giving you the free grats.  But I could be wrong and will recheck later in the day.

[Mary229]

They just reset the clock.  They intended to open the sale tomorrow and now it reflects that date

[FlaMariner]

The HAL Black Friday deals with the $99 deposit and the free tips are live now at the TA that I use.....(I get in big trouble on here if I say the name).

 

From my research on a few cruises we have been tracking, the price of the cruise has stayed the same and the "free" tips make it more attractive.....For us, the $99 deposit is no big deal as we have a FCD....of course, YMMV

[mcrcruiser]

Hmm in about 12 hours HALs Black Friday  sale  starts   ,Nov 23rd . We will see what  prices they offer vs what we already have booked with our TA  .  If we see lower costs we will cancel & rebook  ;as we have cancerable deposits 

[Florida_gal_50]

28 minutes ago, FlaMariner said:

The HAL Black Friday deals with the $99 deposit and the free tips are live now at the TA that I use.....(I get in big trouble on here if I say the name).

 

From my research on a few cruises we have been tracking, the price of the cruise has stayed the same and the "free" tips make it more attractive.....For us, the $99 deposit is no big deal as we have a FCD....of course, YMMV

I don't see anyone asking you for the TA.  Shortly the price will be seen on the Hal website.  Is there a big rush?

[mcrcruiser]

18 minutes ago, Florida_gal_50 said:

I don't see anyone asking you for the TA.  Shortly the price will be seen on the Hal website.  Is there a big rush?

 Our 18 night Hawaii booking ,the gratuities  are about $540   & we had added Club Orange at $540  tp go from a VH to a VA  handicap .  This black Friday sale would  need to be  a better deal than what we paid  + the $1080 added  .We will be doing the math tomorrow ; as well as getting the handicap cabin 

[Suslor]

On 11/21/2021 at 1:32 PM, rodndonna said:

There is banner currently stating BlackFriday sale starts in 1 day,10hours,28minutes....  😃

 

 

We got an email from our PCC last week suggesting we give her a call on Tuesday 😃. 

[Florida_gal_50]

2 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:

 Our 18 night Hawaii booking ,the gratuities  are about $540   & we had added Club Orange at $540  tp go from a VH to a VA  handicap .  This black Friday sale would  need to be  a better deal than what we paid  + the $1080 added  .We will be doing the math tomorrow ; as well as getting the handicap cabin 

Hal just usually hikes up the price to compensate for their deals.