Another Transatlantic covid story

[mimbecky]

Wow you tested positive pretty quickly. I am wondering If you were a close contact but continued to test negative would you have been allowed to wander around the ship?

[AussieGirlKaz]

13 hours ago, indy406 said:

Covid happens and I know it might happen to me, but this isolation on Deck 3 sounds worse than the illness itself. We bought the premium drink package. I wonder if they deliver cocktails? If so, I'd keep the staff hustling from the bar to my cell on 3.

They will bring you cocktails and alcohol just expect atleast like 40 mins for it to arrive, more on port days.

Same for food too.

[AussieGirlKaz]

7 hours ago, mimbecky said:

Wow you tested positive pretty quickly. I am wondering If you were a close contact but continued to test negative would you have been allowed to wander around the ship?

You allowed go stay upstairs as long as u test negative. However u must wear a mask when not in your cabin and eat all your meals in your cabin for 5 days. You would also get tested daily for 5 days.

[AussieGirlKaz]

15 hours ago, mahdnc said:

 

Sorry to hear about your situation, but I love the attitude.  We are hoping to catch Constellation's westward TA in October--but not catch COVID, so I am reading with great interest.

 

Sorry about the isolation and loneliness, too.  It is not the same, but we are here for you to converse with.

 

What part of Australia are you from?

 

David

I am from Sydney 

 

Definitely feels like a world away now.

 

Pre Covid I was an avid traveller so being far away from home is normal...being locked up isn't lol

[Ommadawn]

2 hours ago, Lost in Italy said:

Why would SOME passengers then get to stay in their own cabins? I get the isolation, but inside rooms 24/7 are a bit much, don’t you think? 

 

I think that they have been allowed to stay in their own cabins when there are no more isolation cabins available, but I could be wrong.

[floralscent]

4 hours ago, Lost in Italy said:

Why would SOME passengers then get to stay in their own cabins? I get the isolation, but inside rooms 24/7 are a bit much, don’t you think? 

I’m beginning to wonder if the ventilation in an inside room is best for COVID related incidents

[chemmo]

2 hours ago, AussieGirlKaz said:

I am from Sydney 

 

Definitely feels like a world away now.

 

Pre Covid I was an avid traveller so being far away from home is normal...being locked up isn't lol

We loved Sydney, one of our favourite cities. Just so relaxing which most cities are not…

 

So sorry to hear of your situation. Just a couple of ideas re food and beverages. Will they provide you with a decent fruit bowl? It would at least give you something to nibble without waiting.

 

Also will they stock and restock the minibar for you? Is it worth asking for a bottle of your favourite tipple too? Doesn’t sound unreasonable to me…

[Jim_Iain]

4 hours ago, Ommadawn said:

 

I think that they have been allowed to stay in their own cabins when there are no more isolation cabins available, but I could be wrong.

Your right.   We were lucky when tested on the last day b2b testing and were permitted to stay in our RS.   All rooms in the Red Zone were filled.... Thank God.

 

Only one day for us but It was like being shoved off the ship and hard to get anything.  Dinner took over 3 hours and only received after going ballistic received it at about 11:00 PM. 

 

[AussieGirlKaz]

18 hours ago, Covepointcruiser said:

I wonder how the passengers feel who can only afford inside or outside Oceanview cabins.   Everyone says that staying in these cabins is inhumane.    Will those staying in an inside room be upgraded to an Oceanview room if they are placed in isolation.   I know you are in isolation but it is hardly jail.

It's a very different experience when you only in the room for sleeping and getting ready and able to freely enjoy the spaces than only being in the room 24/7 and not being able to leave or have any real decisions for your.

 

Yes it is not jail but is isolating all the same. It takes a huge mental toll on you and I would not wish it on even the worst person I know.

 

Thank you for your concern.

[chemmo]

19 minutes ago, AussieGirlKaz said:

It's a very different experience when you only in the room for sleeping and getting ready and able to freely enjoy the spaces than only being in the room 24/7 and not being able to leave or have any real decisions for your.

 

Yes it is not jail but is isolating all the same. It takes a huge mental toll on you and I would not wish it on even the worst person I know.

 

Thank you for your concern.

Totally agree, nothing at all wrong with Inside and Oceanview cabins when you are free to leave them…

 

Thoughts are with you…Totally agree with your efforts to keep in a routine, more chance of you managing to stay positive..

[TeeRick]

6 hours ago, floralscent said:

I’m beginning to wonder if the ventilation in an inside room is best for COVID related incidents

The standard cabin ventilation from the ship HVAC systems?  Why would it be less effective in an Inside cabin?

[canderson]

17 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

The standard cabin ventilation from the ship HVAC systems?  Why would it be less effective in an Inside cabin?

Have pondered this, and...

Have you ever noted what the air is doing when you first crack the veranda slider while underway?  Or start to open your cabin main door with the veranda slider open?

Isn't the air flow out to in, pushing air under the cabin door?

[mimbecky]

9 hours ago, AussieGirlKaz said:

You allowed go stay upstairs as long as u test negative. However u must wear a mask when not in your cabin and eat all your meals in your cabin for 5 days. You would also get tested daily for 5 days.

Sounds reasonable.  What isn't is that quarantine rooms aren't balconies with fresh air.  Wondering if we will hear more on this down the line. 

[TeeRick]

1 minute ago, canderson said:

Have pondered this, and...

Have you ever noted what the air is doing when you first crack the veranda slider while underway?  Or start to open your cabin main door with the veranda slider open?

Isn't the air flow out to in, pushing air under the cabin door?

There appears to be strong negative pressure.  So the airflow is definitely not stagnant and with the improved filtration standards (since re-start improvements) I personally am not worried about virus at infectious concentrations (viral load) entering the cabin.  The infectious virus is in respiratory droplets, not just free floating around.

[canderson]

1 minute ago, TeeRick said:

There appears to be strong negative pressure.  So the airflow is definitely not stagnant and with the improved filtration standards (since re-start improvements) I personally am not worried about virus at infectious concentrations (viral load) entering the cabin.  The infectious virus is in respiratory droplets, not just free floating around.

Negative in which space?  I'm recalling that airflow is from cabin to hallway if the cabin door is opened when the veranda slider isn't closed fully.  Perhaps that's what they're getting fussed about?

[TeeRick]

1 hour ago, canderson said:

Negative in which space?  I'm recalling that airflow is from cabin to hallway if the cabin door is opened when the veranda slider isn't closed fully.  Perhaps that's what they're getting fussed about?

Yes, it seems to me that the cabin has positive pressure relative to the hallway.  If you open the slider, the air rushes through the cabin and if the cabin door is open it slams shut.  There is a piece from the royalcaribbeanblog dot com that explains the air changes in cabins (12X per hour) and other internal spaces (15X per hour) all with fresh outside air.  So it would be very hard for virus to build up infectious doses in this system.  I would think that Celebrity ships use the same system as RCCL.

 

  https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/10/14/how-royal-caribbean-will-circulate-air-its-cruise-ships-protect-against-coronavirus

[AussieGirlKaz]

21 hours ago, TeeRick said:

Yes, it seems to me that the cabin has positive pressure relative to the hallway.  If you open the slider, the air rushes through the cabin and if the cabin door is open it slams shut.  There is a piece from the royalcaribbeanblog dot com that explains the air changes in cabins (12X per hour) and other internal spaces (15X per hour) all with fresh outside air.  So it would be very hard for virus to build up infectious doses in this system.  I would think that Celebrity ships use the same system as RCCL.

 

  https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2020/10/14/how-royal-caribbean-will-circulate-air-its-cruise-ships-protect-against-coronavirus

Thanks for this it is interesting 

 

 

So an update from me.

Yesterday had my day 5 test which sadly was still positive. The way this was communicated was very hard and I was very upset about this. At this point I have no symptoms and all vitals are perfect.

After  much conversation and more than a few tears they agreed to move me back to my old room. I remain unable to leave the room but being able to open the door and hear the water lapping is very calming for me. 

Its not a thought that I took lightly, given that I am now post the CDC, spain and my own countries isolation periods and it was in the best interest of my health to have some true fresh air I moved and will remain in this rook for a further 76 hours.

 

[mahdnc]

18 hours ago, AussieGirlKaz said:

Thanks for this it is interesting 

 

 

So an update from me.

Yesterday had my day 5 test which sadly was still positive. The way this was communicated was very hard and I was very upset about this. At this point I have no symptoms and all vitals are perfect.

After  much conversation and more than a few tears they agreed to move me back to my old room. I remain unable to leave the room but being able to open the door and hear the water lapping is very calming for me. 

Its not a thought that I took lightly, given that I am now post the CDC, spain and my own countries isolation periods and it was in the best interest of my health to have some true fresh air I moved and will remain in this rook for a further 76 hours.

 

 

I am glad to hear that you can move back to your cabin.  I am sorry about the positive test.....

[JFontaine]

Sorry that you still tested positive but glad to hear that you have some fresh air. A relief!  What are your plans when the cruise is over - where do you go next? 

[Benthayer Gonbak]

18 hours ago, AussieGirlKaz said:

Thanks for this it is interesting 

 

 

So an update from me.

Yesterday had my day 5 test which sadly was still positive. The way this was communicated was very hard and I was very upset about this. At this point I have no symptoms and all vitals are perfect.

After  much conversation and more than a few tears they agreed to move me back to my old room. I remain unable to leave the room but being able to open the door and hear the water lapping is very calming for me. 

Its not a thought that I took lightly, given that I am now post the CDC, spain and my own countries isolation periods and it was in the best interest of my health to have some true fresh air I moved and will remain in this rook for a further 76 hours.

 

i think the US had about 3-5 days after symptoms have vanished as a guideline for going back to work.  There were so many numbers I’ve forgotten what the 10 was for.  Glad you are back in your original cabin.  
 

just to entertain you.  I was booked in an oceanview on a cruise out of Barbados.  They moved me to a balcony because of needing the rooms, which we now know as the red zone.  I cancelled that trip because I was at the mercy of the local government if I tested positive at the port and they were using old military barracks as a quarantine area, among others.  There were stories of people sleeping outside on benches and on the floors, but my problem was that I have mobility problems that won’t let me get up off the floor, and I assumed old barracks had multiple flights of stairs! But I’ve digressed.  Since I was B2B, more exposure, it was possible that if I got COVID I’d get my original room back!  On that ship I like how quiet the room is, the balconies are off the Centrium and can get quite loud!    Anyway I thought you might be amused that I was one case where I might get my original room back. 😉

[B x]

11 hours ago, mahdnc said:

 

I am glad to hear that you can move back to your cabin.  I am sorry about the positive test.....

Goon on you for sticking to your guns and getting moved back to your own room, you've paid for it and there's nothing to beat fresh air and the sound of waves.

[DMCinSJC]

My parents are on this cruise and both tested positive on Sunday; thankfully they are not exhibiting any real symptoms.  They were moved down from their room into a room on deck 2.  My mom called yesterday to update the family but she didn't have much information as they had not yet met with cruise personnel to get told about their next steps.  She just said they have to stay onboard until they test negative and then they get to disembark from where ever that is...whenever that is...

 

She also said they are already driving each other crazy, so that's fun. 

[Jim_Iain]

On 5/1/2022 at 5:33 AM, AussieGirlKaz said:

they agreed to move me back to my old room.

 

Glad you are back to your cabin.  When does your cruise end?    I hope you are clear by then so they don't have the hazmat team escort you off the ship like we did on Saturday in Southampton.   At least we rented a beautiful Flat in a small town near Southampton to complete our isolation.  

 

I was finally able to get some tests today so will be hoping to test negative soon.   I hope you are having as mile of symptoms as we have.   Just a dry cough.

 

 

[mahdnc]

Just now, Jim_Iain said:

 

Glad you are back to your cabin.  When does your cruise end?    I hope you are clear by then so they don't have the hazmat team escort you off the ship like we did on Saturday in Southampton.  

 

Where are the ship photographers when you need them?

[Jim_Iain]

2 hours ago, DMCinSJC said:

My parents are on this cruise and both tested positive on Sunday; thankfully they are not exhibiting any real symptoms.  They were moved down from their room into a room on deck 2.  My mom called yesterday to update the family but she didn't have much information as they had not yet met with cruise personnel to get told about their next steps.  She just said they have to stay onboard until they test negative and then they get to disembark from where ever that is...whenever that is...

 

She also said they are already driving each other crazy, so that's fun. 

Hope they get some answers as we found that when put into isolation they really cut off the communications.   As far as I know they will have to quarantine for a minimum of 5 days and test negative for 2 days 24 hours apart.    The are then released but must wear a mask at all times and I believe have to eat in their cabin.  The end destination of the cruise will be where they disembark. 

 

We tested positive the night before the end of our cruise for b2b testing.    The final port we were escorted of the ship.    Since UK doesn't have any regulations that require quarantine like most others choose to self isolate  to protect others.   Good luck to them.