Deployment 2024-25 booking season begins

[Chiliburn]

3 hours ago, masteradept said:

Rather than which ship it is, I'm actually more disappointed that Singapore seems to be going back to seasonal instead of having a year-round ship, especially considering the increase in popularity of cruising since cruising restarted here.

Sydney is short of a ship for 24-25 season as there’s usually 2 .

Im still thinking there has to be another ship in the equation.

[Ethanol95]

5 hours ago, masteradept said:

Rather than which ship it is, I'm actually more disappointed that Singapore seems to be going back to seasonal instead of having a year-round ship, especially considering the increase in popularity of cruising since cruising restarted here.

I wouldn't go so far as to saying it went back to seasonal deployment as of yet. Not at least until the full deployment is released. The several month period without a ship, may very well be that Sepctrum's China schedule and Anthem's don't match up for the UK for there to be a ship in SG during this time. Also should take into account the drydock which complicates a full takeover such as what Quantum did with Spectrum. 

 

Let's wait and see first. 

[Ethanol95]

2 hours ago, Chiliburn said:

Sydney is short of a ship for 24-25 season as there’s usually 2 .

Im still thinking there has to be another ship in the equation.

What happened to all the Radiance class ships? None serving Sydney?

[twangster]

When Anthem goes to the Pacific the only Quantum class left in the Atlantic will be Odyssey. 

 

Or are they planning on bringing Ovation or Quantum in the other direction?

 

I hope Royal offers some of the repos cruises using the Suez Canal as revenue cruises. 

[Ethanol95]

Imagine in how many years time, Royal will need larger than Q class to replace all the ships in APAC to continue to bring new and innovative ships over. 

1 minute ago, twangster said:

When Anthem goes to the Pacific the only Quantum class left in the Atlantic will be Odyssey. 

 

Or are they planning on bringing Ovation or Quantum in the other direction?

 

I hope Royal offers some of the repos cruises using the Suez Canal as revenue cruises. 

 

[cruiseboy89130]

3 minutes ago, twangster said:

I hope Royal offers some of the repos cruises using the Suez Canal as revenue cruises. 

Hoping for that! Explorer in the Suez was awesome 👍

[twangster]

2 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

Imagine in how many years time, Royal will need larger than Q class to replace all the ships in APAC to continue to bring new and innovative ships over. 

 

 

Eventually China will get an Oasis class ship.   Looking way down the road beyond the current deployments.  Maybe Wonder, maybe Utopia, or maybe the rumoured OA#7.  Maybe a future Icon class is being earmarked for China instead of something OA class.

 

Once that happens will they keep Spectrum there as well or will the future China based mega ship displace Spectrum and send her back to Singapore?

[Ethanol95]

7 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

Eventually China will get an Oasis class ship.   Looking way down the road beyond the current deployments.  Maybe Wonder, maybe Utopia, or maybe the rumoured OA#7.  Maybe a future Icon class is being earmarked for China instead of something OA class.

 

Once that happens will they keep Spectrum there as well or will the future China based mega ship displace Spectrum and send her back to Singapore?

Lol if China gets a Icon or Oasis i would think it would be originally seasonal to test different homeports and markets in APAC, but obviously China first. 

 

I would hate to think that Singapore would be abandoned in terms of growth, and be given Spectrum. You don't know how many people were upset with the news Anthem was coming and not something larger this season. Royal can only mislead them for so long, before they move brands.

[Chiliburn]

35 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

What happened to all the Radiance class ships? None serving Sydney?

We have Brilliance this coming season and what a breath of fresh air and then we are back in to Quantum class oblivion after that.It’s like ground hog day.

There must be another ship ?

 Adventure of the seas or a Oasis class of some description anything but Quantum class.

 

 

 

 

[twangster]

5 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

Lol if China gets a Icon or Oasis i would think it would be originally seasonal to test different homeports and markets in APAC, but obviously China first. 

 

I would hate to think that Singapore would be abandoned in terms of growth, and be given Spectrum. You don't know how many people were upset with the news Anthem was coming and not something larger this season. Royal can only mislead them for so long, before they move brands.

 

Quantum Ultra are the largest ships in the world that performs tendering.  

 

Singaporeans can dream of something bigger all they want but until there is another port to visit that has a pier, I don't see them putting something bigger into Singapore with only one port offered for a 3/4 rotation. 

 

If you build it, they will come.  

[Ethanol95]

33 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

We have Brilliance this coming season and what a breath of fresh air and then we are back in to Quantum class oblivion after that.It’s like ground hog day.

There must be another ship ?

 Adventure of the seas or a Oasis class of some description anything but Quantum class.

 

 

 

 

I share your sentiments on a whole other level 😂

[Ethanol95]

30 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

Quantum Ultra are the largest ships in the world that performs tendering.  

 

Singaporeans can dream of something bigger all they want but until there is another port to visit that has a pier, I don't see them putting something bigger into Singapore with only one port offered for a 3/4 rotation. 

 

If you build it, they will come.  

Technically they can go to East coast of South East Asia, to Vietnam, Thailand, HK. I don't know which ports that side has docks or tenders, but i would think itineraries there stand a better chance for anything bigger. 

[twangster]

12 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

Technically they can go to East coast of South East Asia, to Vietnam, Thailand, HK. I don't know which ports that side has docks or tenders, but i would think itineraries there stand a better chance for anything bigger. 

 

Perhaps if the Utopia experiment doing the unthinkable and placing an OA class ship on a 3/4 rotation works out they will consider doing the same in Singapore.

[island lady]

11 hours ago, Ethanol95 said:

What happened to all the Radiance class ships? None serving Sydney?

 

I know of one that is rather busy doing the whole world.  😉 

[island lady]

9 hours ago, twangster said:

 

Perhaps if the Utopia experiment doing the unthinkable and placing an OA class ship on a 3/4 rotation works out they will consider doing the same in Singapore.

 

I am guessing RCI knows it can match up "Theme park of the seas" with the local mouse house here  for combo family vacations.   

[Oceansaway17]

On 5/15/2023 at 6:46 AM, twangster said:

 

Signage isn't something that requires a dry dock.  They converted Ovation's Kung Fu Panda to a Fish n Ships during a revenue cruise as an example.  They closed off the area during an Alaska cruise and by the time that voyage was over it was reopened as Fish n Ships.  Changing most signs, if that was a requirement, for the most part isn't a terribly demanding task. 

 

aw yes I remember out May 2019 cruise and I would walk by and peek in. I was sad not to have been able to sample it.  

[FlowBroTy]

16 hours ago, twangster said:

Perhaps if the Utopia experiment doing the unthinkable and placing an OA class ship on a 3/4 rotation works out they will consider doing the same in Singapore.

I believe Allure is the big experiment and that is staring this fall vs next summer. Allure seems to be selling well enough already to warrant Utopia possibility sailing out of Canaveral. If it was not selling well enough here, I do not believe Royal would put Utopia here. Instead, they would have put it elsewhere and kept the Allure doing the 3/4-night run. 

 

Just look at the history of Royal's 3/4 night program out of Florida over the past few years when they finally committed to using larger ships for that program such as the Mariner. They took the big leap having the Mariner do it out of Miami. And when they got data and feedback that it was doing well, they brough another voyager class ship over to Maimi (Navigator of The Seas) and moved the Mariner to Port Canaveral Florida. Out of Canaveral, Mariner sailed pretty much full just about every three night cruise. It got to a point where after the restart, that they then decided to put two freedom class vessels (Indy & Freedom) doing the 3/4 night program and that still to this day is wildly successful. 

 

So having a Oasis class do the 3/4 night program is a very logical next step. 

[twangster]

5 hours ago, FlowBroTy said:

I believe Allure is the big experiment and that is staring this fall vs next summer. Allure seems to be selling well enough already to warrant Utopia possibility sailing out of Canaveral. If it was not selling well enough here, I do not believe Royal would put Utopia here. Instead, they would have put it elsewhere and kept the Allure doing the 3/4-night run. 

 

Just look at the history of Royal's 3/4 night program out of Florida over the past few years when they finally committed to using larger ships for that program such as the Mariner. They took the big leap having the Mariner do it out of Miami. And when they got data and feedback that it was doing well, they brough another voyager class ship over to Maimi (Navigator of The Seas) and moved the Mariner to Port Canaveral Florida. Out of Canaveral, Mariner sailed pretty much full just about every three night cruise. It got to a point where after the restart, that they then decided to put two freedom class vessels (Indy & Freedom) doing the 3/4 night program and that still to this day is wildly successful. 

 

So having a Oasis class do the 3/4 night program is a very logical next step. 

 

Allure was a left over ship they had to stick somewhere.  The red headed step child no one wanted to talk about.  

 

While I personally love Allure the lack of updates is something that hasn't gone unnoticed by the cruise booking masses.

 

To your point, that Allure bookings didn't flop on 3/4 may have opened the door to put Utopia, as a brand new ship, on the same 3/4 albeit for very different reasons.

 

We've all grown accustomed to Miami being the top cruise port in the world.   It goes to show that Royal isn't so numb to reality after all.  With another port challenging and taking the title (for now) Royal has done what Royal does best.   They've placed assets where they can generate the most revenue in the bigger picture,

 

With more Icon class in process Oasis class aren't the mega ships in their own league any more.  Oasis will soon be just another class of ships that once we're the largest cruise ships in the world.  Just as Majesty once was a mega ship of the seas so goes Utopia before she even sails.  Utopia will be the first Oasis class ship that was never the largest cruise ship in the world. 

 

Maybe once Icon 2 or 3 is doing 3/4 from Florida it will be time to put Oasis as just a large class of ship at that point into the Pacific.   

[Ethanol95]

47 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

Allure was a left over ship they had to stick somewhere.  The red headed step child no one wanted to talk about.  

 

While I personally love Allure the lack of updates is something that hasn't gone unnoticed by the cruise booking masses.

 

To your point, that Allure bookings didn't flop on 3/4 may have opened the door to put Utopia, as a brand new ship, on the same 3/4 albeit for very different reasons.

 

We've all grown accustomed to Miami being the top cruise port in the world.   It goes to show that Royal isn't so numb to reality after all.  With another port challenging and taking the title (for now) Royal has done what Royal does best.   They've placed assets where they can generate the most revenue in the bigger picture,

 

With more Icon class in process Oasis class aren't the mega ships in their own league any more.  Oasis will soon be just another class of ships that once we're the largest cruise ships in the world.  Just as Majesty once was a mega ship of the seas so goes Utopia before she even sails.  Utopia will be the first Oasis class ship that was never the largest cruise ship in the world. 

 

Maybe once Icon 2 or 3 is doing 3/4 from Florida it will be time to put Oasis as just a large class of ship at that point into the Pacific.   

That's why Allure should have come to SG instead of Anthem! Haha

[twangster]

2 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

That's why Allure should have come to SG instead of Anthem! Haha

 

She may yet, just not in 2024.  She is too busy helping Royal print money at PDCC.  

[Ethanol95]

6 minutes ago, twangster said:

 

She may yet, just not in 2024.  She is too busy helping Royal print money at PDCC.  

Please enlighten me, what does PDCC stand for?

[twangster]

4 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said:

Please enlighten me, what does PDCC stand for?

 

Perfect Day Coco Cay

[Ashland]

Wasn't Asia to be on the booking schedule this week?

[twangster]

51 minutes ago, Ashland said:

Wasn't Asia to be on the booking schedule this week?

 

May have slipped again.

 

[cruise_co]

Forgive the dumb question as I am pretty much a newbie to cruising having only been on 3. So both Utopia and Allure will be doing the same itinerary next fall?  One from PC and one from Miami?  I am currently booked on Allure B2B 3/4 days next September.  As long as I won't have to sign over my right arm and leg, I might have to look into eating any change fees next month.