Rare KarmaCruisers Posted December 10, 2022 #201 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, icft said: He's old enough to be on his own and they perhaps thought he got lucky. That’d have to be the WORST..unless maybe on the last night..I can only imagine beer goggles…then being stuck on the same boat as that person for the next X amount of days… if “hook ups” are really a thing on a (normal) cruise..then…call me mindblown. (I understand “speciality” cruises) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellaleah Posted December 10, 2022 #202 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I can’t be the only doubter out here. Anyone who has cruised knows that it is not so easy to go overboard. It would be very difficult, but not nearly as difficult as treading water for 20 hours when not sober. This story does not ring true on so many levels! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted December 10, 2022 #203 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, broberts said: People don't get lucky at sea? Speak for yourself. Even after 30+ years of marriage I still get lucky at sea! And multiple times each and every cruise! 🥳 🥳 🥳 Gotta love those casinos! 😉 Edited December 10, 2022 by DirtyDawg 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ledges1 Posted December 10, 2022 #204 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This guy is not going to tell the truth. His family was incapacitated from being up late and drinking. They probably slept to 11:00 AM the next morning and did not miss him until Noon. If they told the truth, they may all look look less than intelligent. The guy has said God saved him for a reason. He should start by telling the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak89 Posted December 10, 2022 #205 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ledges1 said: This guy is not going to tell the truth. His family was incapacitated from being up late and drinking. They probably slept to 11:00 AM the next morning and did not miss him until Noon. If they told the truth, they may all look look less than intelligent. The guy has said God saved him for a reason. He should start by telling the truth. Bet the "truth" will come out when he files a lawsuit trying to blame Carnival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted December 10, 2022 #206 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Most everyone assumes the brother and sister were booked in the same room, and then question the delay in reporting him missing. What if they had separate cabins far apart or even on different decks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel2 Posted December 10, 2022 #207 Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, evandbob said: Most everyone assumes the brother and sister were booked in the same room, and then question the delay in reporting him missing. What if they had separate cabins far apart or even on different decks? I agree. Although I think the whole situation is fishy, I do agree that it’s very possible they weren’t in the same room. And honestly, my first assumption was that she maybe thought he went “home” with another cruiser? Maybe it wasn’t until the afternoon that she realized he hadn’t hooked up with someone and was actually missing. It’s hard to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1kaper Posted December 10, 2022 #208 Share Posted December 10, 2022 16 hours ago, KarmaCruisers said: That’d have to be the WORST..unless maybe on the last night..I can only imagine beer goggles…then being stuck on the same boat as that person for the next X amount of days… if “hook ups” are really a thing on a (normal) cruise..then…call me mindblown. (I understand “speciality” cruises) There was a TikTok about a post in a Carnival roll called on another social media site where a guy was letting a few of the women he hooked up with know they should go get tested. Could be a troll post but never know. I don’t doubt people hook up at all. Lots of single people on the ship. There was a guy we chatted with one night who I know was traveling alone. Last couple nights I saw him with a woman who I’d seen around and definitely wasn’t with him at first. They seemed pretty friendly. I just assumed they found a boatmance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted December 11, 2022 Author #209 Share Posted December 11, 2022 It's obvious the sister hooked up with someone and didn't notice until the next day bro was gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Illbcruzn4life Posted December 11, 2022 #210 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, BlerkOne said: It's obvious the sister hooked up with someone and didn't notice until the next day bro was gone. finally a logical explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaz Posted December 12, 2022 #211 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard. The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted December 12, 2022 #212 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Pellaz said: I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard. The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR." FLIR is a brand of thermal imaging sensors. this may and may not be the man overboard sensors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 12, 2022 #213 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Pellaz said: I'm curious as to why the Valor's man-overboard sensors didn't detect him going overboard. The Conquest-class all seem to have the sensors; you can identify them by looking for the word "FLIR." While the ships do have infrared sensors, that is no indication that there is an automated man overboard (MOB) system. As far as I can remember, only Disney went fleetwide with automatic MOB systems. The IR sensors are most likely fed to the surveillance office, where every camera on the ship is scrolled through on a multi-image screen every 10 seconds or so, so unless there was a sharp eyed surveillance officer who caught the glimpse of the person going overboard, at that instant, it is merely recorded for later investigation, just like all the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted December 13, 2022 #214 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, chengkp75 said: Using average statistics, anyone less than 5'10" (for a male) has their center of gravity below the top of the handrail, so he would have had to hop up while leaning over to fall over the rail. That is why the rail heights are set that way. My boys are each over six feet and a few years ago, they did an experiment to see if they could fall over a ship railing. (Not on a ship, they aren’t stupid. 🤡 They set up a contraption outside as I recall.) They couldn’t do it without concerted effort. That’s why these falling overboard stories always make me wonder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted December 13, 2022 #215 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 11:28 PM, CruizinSusan70 said: She was one of the original card carrying members of the me generation. Listen—she worked hard for that Platinum/Diamond perk. She EARNED that door and didn’t want to share it! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinSusan70 Posted December 13, 2022 #216 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, momof3cruisers said: Listen—she worked hard for that Platinum/Diamond perk. She EARNED that door and didn’t want to share it! Didn't realize there were Platinum and Diamond perks on the Titanic. She only earned that door because of her status and didn't want to share it with someone from steerage. She obviously did not love him and was only concerned with her own well being and survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaz Posted December 13, 2022 #217 Share Posted December 13, 2022 18 hours ago, chengkp75 said: While the ships do have infrared sensors, that is no indication that there is an automated man overboard (MOB) system. As far as I can remember, only Disney went fleetwide with automatic MOB systems. The IR sensors are most likely fed to the surveillance office, where every camera on the ship is scrolled through on a multi-image screen every 10 seconds or so, so unless there was a sharp eyed surveillance officer who caught the glimpse of the person going overboard, at that instant, it is merely recorded for later investigation, just like all the video. On another Conquest-class ship (either the Freedom or the Conquest herself), the MOB alert panel on the bridge was pointed out to us during a Behind the Fun tour. It was on the back wall of the portside bridge wing, and I'm curious if there was another panel on the starboard side. I remember the FLIR sensors I saw were mounted on the corners in the back, and looked like they could "cover" the back of the ship as well as the sides looking forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted December 13, 2022 Author #218 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 hours ago, momof3cruisers said: My boys are each over six feet and a few years ago, they did an experiment to see if they could fall over a ship railing. (Not on a ship, they aren’t stupid. 🤡 They set up a contraption outside as I recall.) They couldn’t do it without concerted effort. That’s why these falling overboard stories always make me wonder. If you watch youtube videos of drunk people doing stupid things, it's easier to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1kaper Posted December 17, 2022 #219 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I just saw an interview with the guy. He said he had been drinking earlier in the day but didn’t know how many. He doesn’t remember leaving to go to the bathroom. Doesn’t remember falling over. He says he was unconscious in the water. When he came to there was no sign of the boat. He stripped his clothes off in the water. He also won the air guitar contest earlier that day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted December 17, 2022 #220 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Lots of shipmances happen on board. In the middle of our whale watching in PV on the Panorama, I witnessed a guy go off on 2 other people, I didn’t even know he knew. Apparently, they were a work group of 8, on the cruise, and the 2 had disowned another younger co-worker who was “getting around” on the cruise ship. This was only day 3. I saw the younger girl a few more times during the cruise with a few different guys at different ship bars. It’s not my things, but I think it happens a lot just like on land. You gotta be careful especially with that extra element of the ocean looming below. I’ve had a lot to drink at sea, but never where I was even close to “falling” off the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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