Space per guest vs other lines…?

[Static events]

How does Celebrity rank on space per guest compared to other similar lines…?

[emmas gran]

I have a book Berlitz guide to Cruising & Cruise ships, it give the passenger space ratio on all ships

[phoenix_dream]

2 hours ago, emmas gran said:

I have a book Berlitz guide to Cruising & Cruise ships, it give the passenger space ratio on all ships

So would you please share what it says about Celebrity vs other lines - not ship by ship but generally speaking?

[prmssk]

Cruisedeckplans has a list here (see the last column):  https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/DP/deckplans/allships.php

 

Celebrity is pretty in line with others, maybe slightly better than Princess.

[jwlane]

Space.  Seems pretty subjective.

[DaKahuna]

10 minutes ago, prmssk said:

Cruisedeckplans has a list here (see the last column):  https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/DP/deckplans/allships.php

 

Celebrity is pretty in line with others, maybe slightly better than Princess.

 

Here is the above link in a spreadsheet where you can sort by any column to see where your ship ranks.

 

Cruise_Ships.xlsx

 

[Homosassa]

Passenger space can be misleading.

 

If the public space includes areas that are only useful to a few a certain times and not available for all to use whenever they may wish, then passenger space is much less than one may thing.

 

Areas that curtail the amount of useable passenger space include the following: specialty restaurants, "entertainment" features such as any amusement park ride, private cabanas or other rented spaces, ship within a ship areas (limited for those in the upscale ghetto and those outside the area), and additional cabins added to a ship that originally had libraries, game rooms and larger or more lounges.

[prmssk]

9 minutes ago, jwlane said:

Space.  Seems pretty subjective.

The actual square footage divided by passenger is not but how they use that space can make a huge difference.

[jwlane]

15 minutes ago, prmssk said:

 how they use that space can make a huge difference.

Like I said---pretty subjective.

[LGW59]

35 minutes ago, jwlane said:

Space.  Seems pretty subjective.

It certainly is.  In commercial real estate leases, RSF includes the restrooms...cruise lines do the same, it is called maximizing the investment and is included in space per guest equations

[the penguins]

6 hours ago, Static events said:

How does Celebrity rank on space per guest compared to other similar lines…?

The traditional way ships calculate space per passenger is: gross weight of ship divided by  number of passengers based on lower berths basically per cabin.

Staffing ratio is also calculated by staff against number of passengers based on full occupancy lower berths only basically 2 per cabin.

Based on the above:

Quantum: space 40.30. Staff 1 to 3.2 pax

Sky Princess: space 39.9 Staff 1 to 2.60 pax

Silhouette: space 42.3 Staff 1 to 2.30 pax.

Edge: space 44.30. Staff 1 to 2.20 pax.

All figures from the Berlitz guide.

Geoff

 

 

 

 

 

[miched]

6 hours ago, prmssk said:

The actual square footage divided by passenger is not but how they use that space can make a huge difference.

Exactly.  Those that pay more have access to more space and space that they may not  utilize.  

How many outside decks are almost vacant?  

Here is something in relation to space ratio 

 

Consider these facts: The land area of Texas is some 262,000 square miles* and current UN estimates of the world's population (for 12 October 1999) are about 6 billion.** By converting square miles to square feet — remember to multiply by 5,280 feet per mile twice — and dividing by the world's population, one readily finds that there are more than 1,217 square feet per capita. 

A family of 5 would thus occupy more than 6,085 square feet of living space. Even in Texas, that's a mansion.

Considering that the world seems to be crowded even though we are spread out around the whole world 
 

 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[LB_NJ]

10 hours ago, Static events said:

How does Celebrity rank on space per guest compared to other similar lines…?

For which cabin category?

Smaller then some larger than others.  It also depends on the ship class.

 

Also, which ship class in the other cruise lines.  

 

I assume this is a fake question and not worth the time to answer.

 

 

 

 

[Redtravel]

Crowded…very crowded.  Celebrity has added cabins on most ships. That adds guests and cuts out open space.  On M ships, the library became cabins, the acupuncture became cabins, spa space became cabins,  deck space became cabins, specialty dining space became cabins, movie theatre became cabins, etc.  The Retreat, Michaels club, and Luminae are space restricted for suite guests.  Each time I sail on Celebrity there are more people crowded into less public areas.  My last Celebrity cruise was so crowded, it was often impossible to avoid getting close to people. For me, it was my first pandemic cruise.  I was uncomfortable.  Spouse got Covid. It took lots of convincing to get me on another cruise.  Opted to sail on other lines that have better space ratio.  If you go for smaller ships or more upscale luxury lines, you can avoid crowds.  Most recent cruise was on Oceania.  It was full, but didn’t feel crowded.  There was lots of space.  

[Static events]

19 hours ago, LB_NJ said:

For which cabin category?

Smaller then some larger than others.  It also depends on the ship class.

 

Also, which ship class in the other cruise lines.  

 

I assume this is a fake question and not worth the time to answer.

 

 

 

 

 

per ship not per stateroom and how does Celebrity compare to others…

 

 

[LB_NJ]

20 minutes ago, Static events said:

 

per ship not per stateroom and how does Celebrity compare to others…

 

 

So a comparison of AT LEAST all these classes.

 

Princess Cruise - 3 classes of ships
Celebrity - 4 classes of ships
Royal Caribbean - 6 classes of ships
Carnival - 9 classes of ships (depends on how you count)
Norwegian - 8 classes of ships
Oceania - 3 classes of ships

 

And of course there are many more brands.

[Static events]

37 minutes ago, LB_NJ said:

So a comparison of AT LEAST all these classes.

 

Princess Cruise - 3 classes of ships
Celebrity - 4 classes of ships
Royal Caribbean - 6 classes of ships
Carnival - 9 classes of ships (depends on how you count)
Norwegian - 8 classes of ships
Oceania - 3 classes of ships

 

And of course there are many more brands.

 

Indeed, it’s a simple calculation, Berlitz Cruise guide has done it for you.