asctony Posted April 23 #26 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, BirdTravels said: The OL on Prima is smaller because the ship is a lot smaller with 25% fewer passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted April 23 #27 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, gknep said: I was kind of up set by this, but then I thought about it and I'll take the smaller Observation Lounge if it gets rid of the laser tag and adds a spice H20. That ain't gonna happen. Everything added is to increase income. Fee based activities wont go away. I remember when NCL ripped up the Spinnaker lounges and what was left over looked like a fire sale. But NCL stopped doing it to their Jewel class ships. It was supposed to be all of them. Is not the Encore already sailing at maximum capacity. They really need 20 more passengers this bad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ofusrdy4cruisin Posted April 23 #28 Share Posted April 23 16 hours ago, YVRteacher said: Oh no! This is not good news. Well, maybe it’s good news for rich people who book the Haven. But the cabins added are not Haven cabins, but BA Mid-Ship Balcony cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted April 23 #29 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, david_sobe said: That ain't gonna happen. I think there have already been some reports that the laser tag is going away in favor of Spice on Encore. I'd expect it to disappear from Bliss as well, to be replaced with more Vibe space (which matches your assertion AND the work that was done on the Joy, to make the Vibe on all 3 ships very similar). In fact, I'd tend to believe it if Encore loses laser tag as if she doesn't lose it and Bliss does it would leave Encore as the only BA+ ship with LT and NO Spice. Sure, some variety from ship to ship is appreciated, and there's still some, but was LT really THAT popular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted April 23 #30 Share Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, hallux said: I think there have already been some reports that the laser tag is going away in favor of Spice on Encore. I'd expect it to disappear from Bliss as well, to be replaced with more Vibe space (which matches your assertion AND the work that was done on the Joy, to make the Vibe on all 3 ships very similar). In fact, I'd tend to believe it if Encore loses laser tag as if she doesn't lose it and Bliss does it would leave Encore as the only BA+ ship with LT and NO Spice. Sure, some variety from ship to ship is appreciated, and there's still some, but was LT really THAT popular? That would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gknep Posted April 23 #31 Share Posted April 23 37 minutes ago, hallux said: Sure, some variety from ship to ship is appreciated, and there's still some, but was LT really THAT popular? I can tell you from experience that on Glacier Bay day during multiple Alaskan Cruises the Laser Tag area was nearly empty and I got some great views and pictures from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timf2001 Posted April 24 #32 Share Posted April 24 Putting Laser Tag in place of Spice H20 on Encore was a mistake from the start. I'm glad they are fixing that mistake. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare YVRteacher Posted April 24 #33 Share Posted April 24 16 hours ago, Two Wheels Only said: I don't see it as good news for Haven guests. It's probably more of a feeling of indifference. Yeah, I misunderstood and assumed the cabins would be Haven cabins. I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare YVRteacher Posted April 24 #34 Share Posted April 24 10 hours ago, 2ofusrdy4cruisin said: But the cabins added are not Haven cabins, but BA Mid-Ship Balcony cabins. I know. I made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted April 24 #35 Share Posted April 24 18 hours ago, yakcruiser said: The Spinnaker lounges on the Jewel class will be next. Who knows. Dawn and Star got converted 2010-2011. I'd thought they would have done so by now as basically same setup as Dawn Class so they'd have the plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted April 24 #36 Share Posted April 24 While our Prima TA was mostly on the cold and wet side, race track and areas around it empty most of the time. Plus older demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand and Seas Posted April 24 #37 Share Posted April 24 This will definitely make a difference on Alaskan or other cold weather cruises. Will they add more seating with so many wanting to spend time there? On our recent ten day southern Caribbean Encore cruise, we maybe visited the Observation Lounge on two or three days. Lots of space available on those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footer6 Posted April 24 #38 Share Posted April 24 Just off the Joy, which just had the OL size reduced by the addition of new cabins. The ship was full (double occupancy), plus 1200 kids on school break.The OL was one of our favorite spots, and even at full capacity, it wasn't too crowded. This was a Bermuda cruise. The OL breakfast was uncrowded till the last 2 sea days, when every dining location was swamped. It's the first time there was a long wait, complete with vibrating beepers, even for breakfast in Savor and Taste. The last night, the wait for dinner was one hour. Advice to anyone going in the Summer - make specialty dining reservations for the last 2 nights. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted April 24 #39 Share Posted April 24 I did not open the thread awhile back about the Joy's dry dock because I had no interest. I was watching a video last night of all the changes and I was pretty impressed. The Joy had pretty much no spa at all and now it has the largest spa at sea beating the Epic. They converted the gaming complex into the spa. They showed the observation lounge and you would have swore it was not reduced. It still looked a good size. Then they expanded the DOS in the Haven and removed the top part of the Horizon lounge. Originally that area was a Haven casino when it was in the Asian market. The DOS has 3 bedrooms now and some bedroom windows look down into the Horizon lounge. I dont think anyone would miss that area since it rarely was used. I can definitely see these changes coming for Encore. Laser Tag took up the most valuable deck space on a cruise ship. So these changes make sense IMHO. However its sad the Joy could not get a "real" spa. I suppose they could not put in a thermal pool. While the square space is huge and they have countless loungers there is only one small hot tub and a 1 person cold dunk pool. The saunas are normal sized though. I just feel that cheats the purpose of the spa. A very large thermal pool with additional hot tubs like on the other ships. So that is the only downer I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted April 24 #40 Share Posted April 24 17 minutes ago, david_sobe said: It still looked a good size. It's still 1/6+ of a deck, it's still a good size but on days where it would have previously been difficult to find a seat it will now be damn near impossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexandNessa Posted April 29 #41 Share Posted April 29 I'm more interested if Encore or Bliss will follow Joy's suit to make the H2 Deluxe Owner's Suites into 3 BRs instead of 2, sacrificing the Haven Library. I'm guessing no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BSR Posted April 29 #42 Share Posted April 29 15 minutes ago, AlexandNessa said: I'm more interested if Encore or Bliss will follow Joy's suit to make the H2 Deluxe Owner's Suites into 3 BRs instead of 2, sacrificing the Haven Library. I'm guessing no? The haven library will be removed to make it a 3 bedroom suite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kortehgehn Posted April 29 #43 Share Posted April 29 On 4/24/2024 at 6:03 PM, david_sobe said: some bedroom windows look down into the Horizon lounge Just an FYI, those new windows aren't from the bedroom; they look into the new dining room of the H2 DOS staterooms. I was a bit surprised that they didn't seem to have room-darkening type curtains that I could see, and as a result, there did not seem to be much privacy from those in the Horizon lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted April 29 #44 Share Posted April 29 On 4/23/2024 at 2:18 PM, asctony said: We have already established that the Joy has a lot lower passenger count because of the excessive number of suites onboard (originally designed to cater to the Asian market) and the need to add more rooms to get her revenue up. So the Joy only holds 23% more passengers. More like the Escape: 4266 versus Prima 3099 Or Encore 3998 versus Prima 3099 Or Bliss 4002 Or Epic 4100 Or Getaway 3963 Or Breakaway 3963 But you constantly see "this is smaller on the Prima" or "that is smaller on the Viva". Ah,,, Yeah,,, the ship is smaller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwwolfe Posted May 9 #45 Share Posted May 9 They are already setting up loungers in the Laser Tag area. Get rid of it! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shidah Posted May 9 #46 Share Posted May 9 On 4/28/2024 at 9:02 PM, Kortehgehn said: Just an FYI, those new windows aren't from the bedroom; they look into the new dining room of the H2 DOS staterooms. I was a bit surprised that they didn't seem to have room-darkening type curtains that I could see, and as a result, there did not seem to be much privacy from those in the Horizon lounge. They do have privacy type curtains. You can make it as private or as open as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kortehgehn Posted May 9 #47 Share Posted May 9 16 minutes ago, Shidah said: They do have privacy type curtains. You can make it as private or as open as you want. I just saw a video of the new H2 yesterday and noticed those room-darkening curtains as well, so I stand corrected. However, I'm still not sure how I would feel about having part of my stateroom overlooking the lounge like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfmcdougal Posted June 16 #48 Share Posted June 16 If anyone is thinking about booking club suite on deck 15 near OL, beware you will be hearing pool deck chairs being dragged around starting at 5 am. Also we were under the smoking section of the pool deck that made it hard to sit on our balcony sometimes. I cannot believe they made these “club” suites and charge extra!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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