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  1. Carnival is what I was referring to with “purchase option to get a better price”. While I have not used it, so could be incorrect, I understand there is a separate fare for early saver which entitles the buyer to any price drops in exchange for partially non refundable deposit.
  2. Complaining bitterly and aggressively is a sure way to NOT get what you ask for. Civility and courtesy will get you much further. If I buy a washer and a month (or a year) later it goes on sale, should I get the sale price? It is ridiculous to think the cruise purchase should be any different. But in fact it is for many people who purchase with the option to get a lower price, or who find the lower price before final payment. If the rules are different for cruise pricing in your country, I still doubt you would get a different consideration for any consumer purchase. Do you also complain and pay the difference when the price increases?
  3. Neither do the posts predicting doom which could happen but has probably not. Can you point me to your source where this has actually happened. How often. Do those of you who consider what is the worst that could happen and plan for it now plan for quarantine? More than taking extra meds. BTW we have passports but I consider what is the worst that could happen and how likely is it to happen and already had a passport for foreign air travel so not a problem.
  4. Absolutely true. Does that mean they should? Lots of people never pay their bills. File bankruptcy and move on. Live off our taxes when they get old. It costs us all when people don’t have sufficient retirement funds to support themselves. Yup. A few people have learned how to turn things around after being up to their ears in debt but as you said the number living in debt is quite high. I guess I have just seen too many people I grew up around being supported by the state in retirement homes while my parents saved enough to be able to pay the nursing home before they spent on extras. Apparently they were the dumb ones. Self respect is worth a lot.
  5. If they are consistently living in debt (and we have established that your primary residence does not factor in), they shouldn’t—at least not spending what a cruise costs. I think the travel industry will do just fine when you realize the higher discretionary spending now allowed by people who did not spend their lives on borrowed funds.
  6. Have only been on Horizon and was hesitant to go due to large number of passengers. Found the lanai so deserted I thought we had a private yacht. The only place we ran into crowds more than on any other ship was the comedy club. Yes, there was a long line but all the people in line got in. Usually waited 15 minutes and got choice of seats. Could have come in later and still decent seats. Very few bad seats. I would much rather wait in line a bit and have the fantastic comedians they had than walk in anytime like we recently did on Legend. There were four different comedians, one of which was really good. But they all did just one family and one adult show. They repeated the same shows the next evening. The usual lines anywhere else
  7. You need more than your good looks and regular ID. Legally.
  8. But you would not know for sure that you were not infected until the end of the quarantine/incubation period. Testing done too early can be negative and become positive later. And if you were truly not infected, why move to another quarantine facility? If the quarantine is not for the benefit of those onboard, and not trying to stop infection on the ship (absolutely ridiculous statement) why confine to cabins and separate people. Sure, it will stop all the infected from going ashore but do you think they are just keeping everyone on the ship until everyone gets it? If they were not trying to stop it on the ship, there would be no quarantine. They would want it to spread as quickly as possible. Way too many people do not understand about incubation periods or testing timing. As evidenced by all the comments whenever there is a new case diagnosed that quarantine will need to start over with another 2 weeks. New cases a few days into quarantine and so many start their tirade of “quarantine doesn’t work!!!” Good point.
  9. Sorry, it is not reforming someone to tell them what you will not put up with. They can still act as they want, but you will not be there. It is amazing how much difference it makes when one uses “I” statements, as in “I get uncomfortable when you do this”. Rather than “You make me uncomfortable when you do that”. It does work but most people put up their defenses before speaking and wonder why people continue doing what they do. And you have already lost half the argument when you call them an idiot.
  10. And some of us try to solve problems and get along with people. Not just toss them aside. Speak to them before the cruise then.
  11. You can deal with people like that constructively, without cutting them out of your life forever, or even for the length of a cruise. It can be effective to positively but quietly state that you love them but are not comfortable being in their presence when they speak about XYZ——unless they are willing to listen to other opinions. Tell them the confines of a cruise in particular exacerbate the problem and you will walk away if they continue after being asked to stop. Then do it! You might be surprised how effective that can be—-even if you might have to leave the dinner table. It is amazing how much even the thickest of heads notice and change. Now some of you will ask “why should I have to leave the table”? While that doesn’t exactly seem “fair”, you can’t really expel them and it does work. Miss one dinner or spend the entire cruise, and after, feeling resentful.
  12. Sorry. Apparently when I read NBT saying any mode of contact should be considered, I was still thinking about the comments of others feeling transmission could be accomplished in ridiculous ways such as traveling through ventilation systems. Direct contact is one thing while third hand or days later is less likely. And yes, I am somewhat informed from spending years in a virus research lab.
  13. Good synopsis. Many equate the words flood and water—to their dismay when it floods.
  14. So you hang out with people who make bad life choices. But as noted, there are plenty of other reasons to be in debt.
  15. Thank you for sane people who understand the nature of both disease and mechanics. I had started to type a similar response—tho not so eloquently. After spending a few years in virus research, some of the comments on these board are depressingly hilarious. It is also quite possible that people on the ship are not adhering to quarantine because they also do not understand. Someone posted that they could be infecting each other by visiting on their balconies. To do that, they would practically need to be leaning around the partition but the comment makes one realize there are also uninformed people on the ship. Quarantine does not kill virus. It has to be strictly followed and wait out the incubation period.
  16. I’ve also found that when pricing. BTW, we usually book a cabin on the end of the ship with the fitness center. Then we can use the showers there anytime.
  17. The new cases are still within the supposed incubation period from before the quarantine. And they are not breathing contaminated air. That’s not how ventilation systems work.
  18. Reading a couple of related threads on these boards so possibly not as much predicting on this one. I have certainly been reading posts which admonish people who are not considering canceling all upcoming cruises since certainly most ports world-wide will be closed to cruise ships. And they keep repeating these dire warnings. Also heard Diamond Princess will (certainly) be quarantined until May. People make up facts and then further speculate random possibilities. You are correct—more true factual information is good.
  19. But that has been going on this entire thread. Fear mongers and conspiracy theorists.
  20. Similar setup to our cabin on the Legend. Husband is 6’2” and had plenty of room in the upper bunk. Believe the sofa is same length.
  21. You went too late for Tamiflu to have any effect. Has to be taken within 24 hrs.
  22. Me too. It’s hard to call protecting greater than even 40% a scam. And someone who got treated on day one of the flu cannot claim “full blown” flu because they have absolutely no way of knowing how long their symptoms would have lasted. I don’t know if the % efficacy figures even include all those with lessened symptoms due to vaccine. When one of the largest medical institutions in the world requires their employees to be vaccinated, and provides it free of cost, I hardly think it is a scam.
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