Big Time Unhappy Passengers

[helpthejuggler]

If you can afford to cruise, you can afford the small extra to bring bags with clothes to follow the expected dress. Not doing so is as cheap as not paying for service. Another tradition but same rationale.

[librarylady19]

Yup, I'll be seeing you in September, our 30th anniversary cruise. I haven't signed on to the roll call yet but will soon.

 

Thanks Sandi, Waterlili and Denny, happy to be back...

 

That is wonderful! Looking forward to seeing you and Jeanne again. Our RC is starting to get active and it will be even better with you there!

[LMKohler]

Don - welcome back. Even though we have never met "in person" I value your insights and read your posts with interest. I hope everything is good with you and your family.

 

Lucy

[commodoredave]

stipmom, I like your idea. That would be a great solution for everybody. As do you, I totally agree that coming to the mdr the way the OP mentioned is totally unacceptable. However, I don't feel that people should be angry or disgusted with others who choose to dress less formally but still neat and respectable. For example, dress slacks and a shirt and tie. I don't understand why so many people are getting so aggravated over this. How is it ruining someone else's dining experience if someone is nicely dressed but not wearing a jacket? I think your idea would be a great solution to this obviously heated issue.

 

nursebob- that was kind of uncalled for... are you going to suggest next that, as in the movie titanic, certain decks will be for those of a specific "class"

it seems like some are forgetting what cruising is all about...enjoying life, relaxing, and having fun

 

While nursebob was a bit over the top, there are cruise lines that have different dining rooms for higher class passengers. Maybe not a bad way to deliver a MDR experience for various dress codes -- formal for first class, smart casual for the rest.

[USVI-4-me]

Brad 1185 is entitled to be a Celebrity cruiser that disagrees with a policy and has every right to voice that opinion in this forum without being personally attacked. It is against the CC policy. So all of you posting about following Celebrity's rules in the MDR might want to follow your own advice and follow the Cruise Critic rules here as well.

 

 

Thank you for posting.

 

Posters should not feel unwelcome to express opinions and don't deserve personal attacks.

 

Celebrity cruisers are all entitled to their preferences about the dress codes. Personally, I cruise Celebrity for the non-smoking, itineraries, and the T-Pool on M=Class. For us, it's not about dress code, food, or entertainment. If the dress code were more lax, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to us. We'd dress the same regardless.

 

Maris

[CarolinaMamma]

 

Packing problems? Weight? Please. We've given up on the 2-suitcase deal. Too much aggravation, especially with the three-season weather we tend to cruise through, and all the gym workouts. So we pack 3 suitcases and pay a surcharge and Yours Truly is blessed (cursed?) with lugging them around but guess what?

We.

Don't.

Care.

 

There is something special--magical, almost--about formal night. It adds to the mystique of cruising, and it's appealing on so many levels as to be almost impossible to capture with mere words.

 

From young couples who haven't dressed up since their wedding day, to older folks celebrating 60 years of wedded bliss there is more sweet love in the air on formal might than any other night of a cruise.

 

Real men love their wives. And real men love it when their wives put considerable effort into looking their best. Real men appreciate that effort immensely. Real men always--always--return said effort.

 

A real man will move mountains and fight rabid hyenas to protect the honor and dignity of his wife. Slipping a jacket over your shoulders is nothing within this context.

 

If you won't do that little thing, that one simple thing, for the most important woman in your life, how do you think that makes HER feel?

 

A real man has a burning desire to be her knight in shining armor.

 

Formal night is your night to prove that you are indeed that amazing man. The choice is yours.

 

Amen!

 

I wonder if all the "it's my vacation, I should be able to wear whatever I want" people would wear jeans to a wedding or to an upscale restaurant in their home city.

 

Kudos to the MD.

[Lois R]

Hi Don:):D:)........welcome back. No comments from me about the

topic:eek:.......just want to say I missed you too.:)

[dimiegirl]

Thank you for posting.

 

Posters should not feel unwelcome to express opinions and don't deserve personal attacks.

 

Celebrity cruisers are all entitled to their preferences about the dress codes. Personally, I cruise Celebrity for the non-smoking, itineraries, and the T-Pool on M=Class. For us, it's not about dress code, food, or entertainment. If the dress code were more lax, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to us. We'd dress the same regardless.

 

Maris

 

This is our first celebrity cruise. We decided to try this line mainly due to the strict non smoking policy as well. While we love RCCL and Princess, the ability to gamble or sit on our balcony without without breathing in smoke, in addition to its excellent reputation, enticed us to give celebrity a try:)

[Hlitner]

The Maitre d's next step should have been to quietly tell the "gentleman" to behave himself or he would he (the passenger) might be leaving the ship at the next port (at his own expense). We have seen passengers kicked-off for making a scent.

 

Hank

[Cruise Junky]

While nursebob was a bit over the top, there are cruise lines that have different dining rooms for higher class passengers. Maybe not a bad way to deliver a MDR experience for various dress codes -- formal for first class, smart casual for the rest.

 

Other than a few holdouts like Crystal, a lot of high end cruise lines seemed to have ditched formal nights. Seabourn, Regent, Azamara, Oceania.

[DebbieMacG]

The Maitre d's next step should have been to quietly tell the "gentleman" to behave himself or he would he (the passenger) might be leaving the ship at the next port (at his own expense). We have seen passengers kicked-off for making a scent.

 

Hank

 

I'm sorry but that last line actually made me laugh out loud :D

[Hlitner]

Perhaps it is a commentary on our society that "etiquette" has been replaced by "me me me." Once upon a time they used to teach young children social skills and manners. Now, many adults have no clue about social skills and live in a world where everything is supposed to be about "me."

 

Hank

[sea-cruise]

I am just as much a man in my tux as I was in combat fatigues with the Special Forces in Vietnam.

I certainly don't have to bully my wife in order to "man up."

 

 

 

I personally 'manned up' almot 50 years ago when I put a uniform on. And most other men 'manned up' when they became husbands and fathers, or took on responsiblities in their communities. I don't need some guy who doesnt want to wear what is perscribed in the Celebrity guidelines telling me to 'man up'. So drop the silliness.

 

I have a great deal of respect and admiration for both of you.

Men who served in the Armed Forces have respect for the meaning of rules and the meaning of dress codes.

Sloppiness & selfishness is not a common trait among servicemen and servicewomen.

My husband wore his combat fatigues in Vietnam as well as his dress blues when required to wear them.

He continues to wear his tux or a dark suit on formal nights in the MDR.

My sons inlaw and adult grandsons have not been in the service, but all of them know what "formal attire" means, and they respect others enough to not act selfishly. They all go to the buffet or specialty restaurants on formal nights if they don't feel like dressing.

[boogs]

Other than a few holdouts like Crystal, a lot of high end cruise lines seemed to have ditched formal nights. Seabourn, Regent, Azamara, Oceania.

 

What's your point? You want all cruise lines to be the same? Not for me, thank you. I want there to be specific differences that set one apart from the other, so that I have more choices to satisfy whatever style I want when it's appropriate. Just because a few "high end" lines do one thing, doesn't mean all the other cruise lines must do the same. Imagine how boring it would be if all things in life were exactly the same: if all movies were the same; if all hotels were the same; if all food tasted the same; if all music sounded the same; if all restaurants were the same; if all cars were the same; if all people were the same.

 

Diversity, nor conformity, is what makes life interesting.

[Cruise Junky]

What's your point? You want all cruise lines to be the same? Not for me, thank you. I want there to be specific differences that set one apart from the other, so that I have more choices to satisfy whatever style I want when it's appropriate. Just because a few "high end" lines do one thing, doesn't mean all the other cruise lines must do the same. Imagine how boring it would be if all things in life were exactly the same: if all movies were the same; if all hotels were the same; if all food tasted the same; if all music was the same; if all restaurants were the same; if all cars were the same; if all people were the same.

 

Diversity, nor conformity, is what makes life interesting.

 

You need to read my post in the context of the conversation it was responding to. High class lines having separate classes of dining rooms.

[boogs]

While nursebob was a bit over the top, there are cruise lines that have different dining rooms for higher class passengers. Maybe not a bad way to deliver a MDR experience for various dress codes -- formal for first class, smart casual for the rest.

 

Celebrity has Blu only for Aqua Class passengers, and suite passengers if there is room. That is a modern example of class separation.

[Cruise Junky]

Celebrity has Blu only for Aqua Class passengers, and suite passengers if there is room. That is a modern example of class separation.

 

And yet has no formal nights....my point exactly.

[boogs]

And yet has no formal nights....my point exactly.

 

Not much of a point. Just an option, IMHO. One could just as easily eat in their stateroom, in the buffet, in one of the alternate restaurants, or even better yet, eat in the MDR of some other, less stylish, cruise line. :D

[boogs]

You need to read my post in the context of the conversation it was responding to. High class lines having separate classes of dining rooms.

 

I replied to that specific post for the same reason you posted it - it was only about "ditching" formal night. It had nothing to do about separate classes.

[Cruise Junky]

I replied to that specific post for the same reason you posted it - it was only about "ditching" formal night. It had nothing to do about separate classes.

 

That entire conversation was about different dining rooms for different classes.

[USVI-4-me]

This is our first celebrity cruise. We decided to try this line mainly due to the strict non smoking policy as well. While we love RCCL and Princess, the ability to gamble or sit on our balcony without without breathing in smoke, in addition to its excellent reputation, enticed us to give celebrity a try:)

 

 

You'll enjoy cruising on the Celebrity ships. They are very well maintained and service is as good as RCCL and Princess. But, generally not as much entertainment. MY dear husband (DH) enjoys the non-smoking atmosphere in the casino. I go to the pools to enjoy the days of sunshine and relaxing people.

 

Perhaps I'll be sitting beside you someday on your cruise, and you'll be telling me what a good time you're having. You may ask me to take your picture. Or, you mightl get lucky in the casino because my DH is a charm, whether in a dark suit or in shorts -- depending on the room and time of day.

 

I enjoyed your post. There's much to enjoy about most ships.

 

Maris

[TeaBag]

The Maitre d's next step should have been to quietly tell the "gentleman" to behave himself or he would he (the passenger) might be leaving the ship at the next port (at his own expense). We have seen passengers kicked-off for making a scent.

 

Hank

 

Like Cruise junky, this one made me laugh out loud too. I know you meant scene, but the way it came out conjured up all kinds of images. Thank you for the laugh on what is the end to a very hard day.

[TeaBag]

Sorry Cruise Junky, It was DebbieMacG!

[Cruise Junky]

Sorry Cruise Junky, It was DebbieMacG!

 

:) no worries

[Bridge Maven]

Since Celebrity has so many additional pay restaurants now, I think they should convert one of them into a main dining room. This way there would be two main dining rooms - one for people who want to observe formal nights and one for those who don't.