richsea Posted April 18, 2012 #1 Share Posted April 18, 2012 PBS is airing a NOVA documentary tonight exploring why ships sink, which looks interesting. It explores the technical & well as human factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esther e Posted April 18, 2012 #2 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muushka Posted April 18, 2012 #3 Share Posted April 18, 2012 We'll be watching, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted April 18, 2012 #4 Share Posted April 18, 2012 PBS is airing a NOVA documentary tonight exploring why ships sink, which looks interesting. It explores the technical & well as human factors. Rich: Thanks, I have it set to record. I noticed in a preview that they are studying the Oceanos. If anyone has seen previous reports of this sinking and the cowardly actions of the crew you will be shocked. Almost all of the ship was evacuated by helicopters with the band doing the coordinating while the CAptain and most of the crew sat on a beach and watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muushka Posted April 18, 2012 #5 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I saw the report on Oceanos. I remember wondering how they (capt and crew) could live with themselves after something like that. And then there was the Concordia, wondered that same thought once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebury Posted April 18, 2012 #6 Share Posted April 18, 2012 If this is the same programme that was shown a few weeks ago in the UK it is worth watching - I found it very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excitedofharpenden Posted April 18, 2012 #7 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The program in the UK showed one of the entertainers on Oceanos having to help evacuate passengers after the captain and crew left. This same entertainer was on the Achille Lauro when it sunk three years later. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcrusn Posted April 18, 2012 #8 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ships sink when they weigh more than the amount of water they displace! I know thats about as helpful as why do planes crash? Because they failed to maintain altitude - duh! If only it were so simple.... Thanks for the heads-up I'll be sure to watch, I just hope I can still walk on my cruise ship this weekend afterwards! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketwatch Posted April 18, 2012 #9 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Rich: Thanks, I have it set to record. I noticed in a preview that they are studying the Oceanos. If anyone has seen previous reports of this sinking and the cowardly actions of the crew you will be shocked. Almost all of the ship was evacuated by helicopters with the band doing the coordinating while the CAptain and most of the crew sat on a beach and watched. Is that the Louis cruise line ship that sunk some yrs. ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted April 18, 2012 #10 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ships sink when they weigh more than the amount of water they displace! I know thats about as helpful as why do planes crash? Because they failed to maintain altitude - duh! If only it were so simple.... Thanks for the heads-up I'll be sure to watch, I just hope I can still walk on my cruise ship this weekend afterwards! :eek: According to my son who is a pilot, about 99% of the time the crash is attributed to pilot error. My guess would be it would run about the same on ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted April 18, 2012 #11 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Is that the Louis cruise line ship that sunk some yrs. ago? no - that was the Sea Diamond http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTS_Oceanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted April 18, 2012 #12 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I think the Captain of the Concordia is in such deep dodo because of the captain of the Oceanos. He wasn't punished at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted April 18, 2012 #13 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Captain Yiannis Avranas was accused by the passengers of leaving hundreds behind with no one other than the ship's onboard entertainers to help them evacuate. Avranas claimed that he left the ship first in order to arrange for a rescue effort, and then supervised the rescue effort from a helicopter. Avranas stated, "When I give the order abandon ship, it doesn't matter what time I leave. Abandon is for everybody. If some people want to stay, they can stay. From wikipedia -- my kind of captain :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardponder Posted April 18, 2012 #14 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Thanks!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketwatch Posted April 18, 2012 #15 Share Posted April 18, 2012 no - that was the Sea Diamond http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTS_Oceanos Thank you for the link. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted April 18, 2012 #16 Share Posted April 18, 2012 My pleasure --- it's a hell of a story. There is a lot of video of it around. The band member that took control was a hero in every sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mma Posted April 18, 2012 #17 Share Posted April 18, 2012 PBS is airing a NOVA documentary tonight exploring why ships sink, which looks interesting. It explores the technical & well as human factors.[/quThanks, just set the DVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excitedofharpenden Posted April 18, 2012 #18 Share Posted April 18, 2012 My pleasure --- it's a hell of a story. There is a lot of video of it around. The band member that took control was a hero in every sense of the word. The hero in that story, Moss Hills was the guy I referred to in my above post who was also on the Achille Lauro when it caught fire and sunk. Talk about bad luck! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarafinadh Posted April 18, 2012 #19 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Aired at 3 AM on the west coast, but it will be available for streaming at 5 pm on Thursday the 19th. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/why-ships-sink.html And the good news is Moss Hills (and his wife) survived both disasters. So maybe pretty lucky after all ; -) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whitshel Posted April 18, 2012 #20 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Umm, because they hit big rocks and icebergs and such...... that's my theory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two4me Posted April 18, 2012 #21 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ships sink when they weigh more than the amount of water they displace! Wow, water, who knew! hahaha. Thanks for posting, thought the same thing when I read post, glad you said it, not me! hahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TLCOhio Posted April 19, 2012 #22 Share Posted April 19, 2012 THANKS! Will tune in at 9 pm EDT to see. It will have more on the now famous Costa Concordia. Here's a picture and memory I have of this ship when it was looking very nice sitting next to us in Barcelona. Terry in Ohio Did a June 7-19, 2011, Solstice cruise from Barcelona that had stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Enjoyed great weather and a wonderful trip. Dozens of wonderful visuals with key highlights, tips, comments, etc., on these postings. We are now at 73,501 views for this live/blog re-cap on our first sailing with Celebrity and much on wonderful Barcelona. Check these postings and added info at: http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1426474 As we were getting ready for our Solstice sail-away from Barcelona on June 7, 2011, here’s a picture of our next-door neighbor in their scenic harbor. It’s the Costa Concordia that has become, sadly, one of the most infamous cruise ships in history. You can see the unique shape/design of the W Hotel in the distant background as it overlooks the Barcelona beach area.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Nut Posted April 19, 2012 #23 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The Achille Lauro also has another dark detail in its history. When it was hijacked by terrorists in 1985 in the Mediterranean, a wheelchair bound passenger, Leon Klinghoffer, was shot, and his body thrown overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted April 19, 2012 #24 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The Achille Lauro also has another dark detail in its history. When it was hijacked by terrorists in 1985 in the Mediterranean, a wheelchair bound passenger, Leon Klinghoffer, was shot, and his body thrown overboard. That was the incident where the Egyptians released the hijackers and they got on a commerical air liner. Ronald Reagan sent the military out of Italy to intercept the plane, forced it to land in Italy and arrested the hijackers. Mr. and Mrs. Klinghoffer are buried near where I worked in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUZBUDS Posted April 19, 2012 #25 Share Posted April 19, 2012 That was the incident where the Egyptians released the hijackers and they got on a commerical air liner. Ronald Reagan sent the military out of Italy to intercept the plane, forced it to land in Italy and arrested the hijackers. Mr. and Mrs. Klinghoffer are buried near where I worked in NJ. That was great.. but didn't Italians wind up letting them go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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