marcelknipscheer Posted July 20, 2015 #1 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I know that there were many questions about the dresscode. We are on the Rotterdam next weekand i am still ask myself what can i wear in the mdr on casual nights? Jeans,t-shirt? I know on formel nights we cannot wear jeans or T-shirts. Than we will have diner in the lido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradUT Posted July 20, 2015 #2 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I'm not a member of the "fashion police", but jeans and T-shirts are not "smart casual", the dress code for the MDR on non-gala nights. Men should wear khakis or slacks with a polo shirt or short-sleeved dress shirt. Women should wear slacks or capri pants with a blouse, a skirt and blouse, or a simple dress. We just got off a cruise on the Eurodam and this what everyone was wearing in the MDR on smart casual nights. Edited July 20, 2015 by GradUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted July 20, 2015 #3 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Jeans are not prohibited, so long as they are not "distressed"---which is torn, faded, holes in the knees (or elsewhere :eek:). T-shirts are specifically prohibited by the dress code. Collared knit shirts, such as a golf shirt, are appropriate. Evening dress on nights other than formal is termed "smart casual", which is a little dressier than "casual". Edited July 20, 2015 by RuthC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 20, 2015 #4 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I know that there were many questions about the dresscode.We are on the Rotterdam next weekand i am still ask myself what can i wear in the mdr on casual nights? Jeans,t-shirt? I know on formel nights we cannot wear jeans or T-shirts. Than we will have diner in the lido. Hoi Marcel, voor 'casual' avonden in de eetzaal op de Rotjeknor kan je gewoon je jeans aan houden met een leuk shirt met een kraagje er bij., zoiets als een polo shirt kan ook. T-shirts horen daar eigenlijk niet bij en die kan je beter, zoals je zegt, in het Lido s'avonds aan. Je kan jeans in de MDR ook aflossen met een wat mooiere langere broek van licht materiaal die wij hier 'Dockers' noemen. Heb een leuke tijd op Holland America's co-vlaggeschip volgende week! :) / Hi Marcel, for casual nights in the MDR on the RTDM je are allowed to wear jeans in combo with a collared shirt like a polo shirt. T-shirts are not really a part of that but you can wear those at night, like you mentioned, in the Lido. You can also switch wearing your jeans in the MDR with light weight material long pants we call 'dockers' here. Have a great time on HAL's co-flag ship next week! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 21, 2015 #5 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm not a member of the "fashion police", but jeans and T-shirts are not "smart casual", the dress code for the MDR on non-gala nights. Men should wear khakis or slacks with a polo shirt or short-sleeved dress shirt. Women should wear slacks or capri pants with a blouse, a skirt and blouse, or a simple dress. We just got off a cruise on the Eurodam and this what everyone was wearing in the MDR on smart casual nights. Jeans are not prohibited, so long as they are not "distressed"---which is torn, faded, holes in the knees (or elsewhere :eek:). T-shirts are specifically prohibited by the dress code. Collared knit shirts, such as a golf shirt, are appropriate. Evening dress on nights other than formal is termed "smart casual", which is a little dressier than "casual". I find this thread ironic as I read Oceania dress code threads. Jeans are certainly allowed on HAl on smart Casual nights. There are all kinds of jeans out there and smart ones can be very sharp. They are even allowed on O but somehow I think they are designer jeans ;) I don't wear jeans in the dining room on smart casual nights other than possibly the last night, but they are black and they are designer (my only pair on a cruise - I am NOT a jean person) but they are certainly permitted. Just because I don't wear them doesn't mean that you can't as long as they look nice ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofietucker Posted July 21, 2015 #6 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm not a member of the "fashion police", but jeans and T-shirts are not "smart casual", the dress code for the MDR on non-gala nights. Men should wear khakis or slacks with a polo shirt or short-sleeved dress shirt. Women should wear slacks or capri pants with a blouse, a skirt and blouse, or a simple dress. We just got off a cruise on the Eurodam and this what everyone was wearing in the MDR on smart casual nights. Okay, I'm not the fashion police either--folks can wear what they want and I'll not judge (bless their hearts)--but I am a bit pedantic from time to time... To save you possible future misunderstanding, I just want to point out that a "short-sleeved dress shirt" does not exist. Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves. (Besides, don'cha want to show off your cufflinks?) That goes with wearing a suit any time too. But a good look is a short-sleeved shirt with, say, khakis and loafers. And re: t-shirts, I've seen versions of the Miami Vice style in the MDR: a colored tee (maybe silk, never with a logo or pocket) under a jacket, sometimes with sleeves rolled or pushed up. Retro cool. In any case, the key is don't be sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted July 21, 2015 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Okay, I'm not the fashion police either--folks can wear what they want and I'll not judge (bless their hearts)--but I am a bit pedantic from time to time... To save you possible future misunderstanding, I just want to point out that a "short-sleeved dress shirt" does not exist. Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves. (Besides, don'cha want to show off your cufflinks?) That goes with wearing a suit any time too. But a good look is a short-sleeved shirt with, say, khakis and loafers. And re: t-shirts, I've seen versions of the Miami Vice style in the MDR: a colored tee (maybe silk, never with a logo or pocket) under a jacket, sometimes with sleeves rolled or pushed up. Retro cool. In any case, the key is don't be sloppy. They have short sleeved dress shirts in Calgary :confused:. They look just like the ones with long sleeves except the sleeves are short. If you google it there are plenty of images. Edited July 21, 2015 by cruz chic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted July 21, 2015 #8 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Okay, I'm not the fashion police either--folks can wear what they want and I'll not judge (bless their hearts)--but I am a bit pedantic from time to time... To save you possible future misunderstanding, I just want to point out that a "short-sleeved dress shirt" does not exist. Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves. Well, check the Macy's website and you will see that they currently offer twelve different 'Short-Sleeved Dress Shirts'. ;) Edited July 21, 2015 by Boytjie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted July 21, 2015 #9 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Well, check the Macy's website and you will see that they currently offer twelve different 'Short-Sleeved Dress Shirts'. ;) Growing up in the Northeast, I always thought that there was no such thing as a "short sleeved dress shirt." Then I spent a month in Phoenix and Dallas one summer. I pretty much melted. (For the record, it's not a dry heat. Also, when you buy a "summer weight wool" suit in Princeton, that's a lie, too.) Embrace the seersucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelleherdl Posted July 21, 2015 #10 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah seersucker. Sorry, growing up in the South we never had the money for me to have a suit much less seersucker. It now goes on whenever the feeling comes over me. mostly Sunday.....:). I may be the only man in church in a suit during the summer but what the h***. no, I'm not a lawyer .....:) Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocF Posted July 21, 2015 #11 Share Posted July 21, 2015 In any case, the key is don't be sloppy. I can look wrinkled and sloppy in my better tuxedo. Some of us are talented in that way:D If one is being very proper, dress shirts really are long sleeved. That is because a bit of cuff should be showing from the jacket sleeve. Now having said this, most of my dress shirts are short sleeve as long sleeves are absolute torture most of the year in our Gulf coast humidity. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 19, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Okay, I'm not the fashion police either--<SNIP> To save you possible future misunderstanding, I just want to point out that a "short-sleeved dress shirt" does not exist. Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves. (Besides, don'cha want to show off your cufflinks?) That goes with wearing a suit any time too. <SNIP> In any case, the key is don't be sloppy. Sophie, You are behind the times! Growing up in the Northeast, I always thought that there was no such thing as a "short sleeved dress shirt." Then I spent a month in Phoenix and Dallas one summer. I pretty much melted. (For the record, it's not a dry heat. Also, when you buy a "summer weight wool" suit in Princeton, that's a lie, too.) Embrace the seersucker. They also sell short sleeve dress shirts in Florida! The nice ones are sold at Nordstrom's for USD $45..But you can also get them a Macy's, J.C. Penny's or Dillards for a bit less.. http://shop.nordstrom.com/sr?keyword=Short+Sleeve+Dress+Shirt&cm_mmc=google-_-Mens_Generic-_-Shirts_Dress-_-short%2520sleeve%2520dress%2520shirts_e&rkg_id=h-24d2d4c952ad675958a016e0df46824c_t-1445289288&adpos=1t6&creative=75009396862&device=c&matchtype=e&network=s&gclid=CNfE25S6z8gCFVIXHwodk9IGeA#keyword=Short%20Sleeve%20Dress%20Shirt&type=keyword&category=s6000107&defaultsize3=&size=&width=&color=&price=&brand=&stores=&instoreavailability=false&lastfilter=searchcategory_6000107&sizeFinderId=2&resultsmode=&segmentId=0&keywordSortEngine=Default&page=1 http://www1.macys.com/shop/search?keyword=short+sleeve+dress+shirts Edited October 19, 2015 by serendipity1499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 19, 2015 #13 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I find this thread ironic as I read Oceania dress code threads. Jeans are certainly allowed on HAl on smart Casual nights. There are all kinds of jeans out there and smart ones can be very sharp. They are even allowed on O but somehow I think they are designer jeans ;) I don't wear jeans in the dining room on smart casual nights other than possibly the last night, but they are black and they are designer (my only pair on a cruise - I am NOT a jean person) but they are certainly permitted. Just because I don't wear them doesn't mean that you can't as long as they look nice ;) :confused: Have a Question for the ladies who are frequent cruisers.. I've always worn slacks, a long casual dress or a skirt in the MDR on Smart Casual nights.. However, in this thread it looks like Capri's are acceptable too.. When we go out to dinner here in the heat of South West Fla. I often wear Capri's, as they are cooler than slacks.. Always wear a nice top & many times a nice Jacket with them.. Will I look out of place if I wear Capri's with a nice top in the MDR on smart casual nights on the Eurodam to the Eastern/Western Carb.? Edited October 19, 2015 by serendipity1499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted October 19, 2015 #14 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Will I look out of place if I wear Capri's with a nice top in the MDR on smart casual nights on the Eurodam to the Eastern/Western Carb.? Of course not, you will look fine in the dining room with capri's and a nice top. You will find many ladies in similar attire. Smooth Sailing ! :) :) :) Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksqueak Posted October 20, 2015 #15 Share Posted October 20, 2015 :confused: Have a Question for the ladies who are frequent cruisers.. I've always worn slacks, a long casual dress or a skirt in the MDR on Smart Casual nights.. However, in this thread it looks like Capri's are acceptable too.. When we go out to dinner here in the heat of South West Fla. I often wear Capri's, as they are cooler than slacks.. Always wear a nice top & many times a nice Jacket with them.. Will I look out of place if I wear Capri's with a nice top in the MDR on smart casual nights on the Eurodam to the Eastern/Western Carb.? I wore capri's most nights on my recent cruise. Didn't feel out of place at all. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeLoveCruising Posted October 20, 2015 #16 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Will I look out of place if I wear Capri's with a nice top in the MDR on smart casual nights on the Eurodam to the Eastern/Western Carb.? Ib agree with the others. Not only will you NOT be out of place, you will be wearing the same as most other ladies. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted October 20, 2015 #17 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Tee shirts are not right for dinner...during the day, they're fine. At night, for men, wear a collared shirt...either button up, or golf/polo style. Capris are what 99% of the women will be wearing...no worries about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 20, 2015 #18 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thank You all.. Appreciate your approval..:)I shall bring some Capri's too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted October 20, 2015 #19 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Betty...I usually wear capri s with a nice top on Smart Casual nights. Have never felt out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted October 20, 2015 #20 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Okay, I'm not the fashion police either--folks can wear what they want and I'll not judge (bless their hearts)--but I am a bit pedantic from time to time... To save you possible future misunderstanding, I just want to point out that a "short-sleeved dress shirt" does not exist. Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves... I like your style, sophietucker!!! IMO you are absolutely correct: "Dress shirts ALWAYS have long sleeves." The fact that some retailers advertise "short-sleeved dress shirts" is nothing more than a reflection of how clueless many people are about "fashion etiquette" and does not change the definition of "dress shirt". (For the record, the latest Merriam-Webster definition of "dress shirt" does not specify a long-sleeved shirt, just one suitable for wear with a tie, but since this is not a discussion of lexicon meanings, the M-W definition is not germane.) Describing any short-sleeved shirt as a "dress shirt" is comparable to characterizing McDonald's fare as gourmet food. In other words, what you call something does not change its character. On another forum discussing this very issue, I found a comment which pretty well sums up my views on the matter: "A short sleeve button up [shirt] really isn't appropriate for a wedding (or anywhere else in life unless you are a high school math teacher). Will there be some idiot there wearing a short sleeve button up or a polo? Probably. Do you want to be that idiot? Probably not." Like you, I am not telling anyone else what he/she should or should not wear. I am merely attempting to (good-naturedly) correct the record as to what is and what is not a "dress shirt". :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted October 20, 2015 #21 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It's always interesting when posters tell us "how clueless many people are about 'fashion etiquette' " and then go on to tell us how insular and parochial they are. Short-sleeve dress shirts are the only thing one can wear with a Bermuda-short suit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaTourist Posted October 20, 2015 #22 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Dress shirts with short sleeves are known as sport shirts. And I'm only 55 and I know the difference. My dad thought be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy2x Posted October 21, 2015 #23 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) T It's always interesting when posters tell us "how clueless many people are about 'fashion etiquette' " and then go on to tell us how insular and parochial they are. Short-sleeve dress shirts are the only thing one can wear with a Bermuda-short suit: Gotta love the black socks! Looks like a postman on holiday. Edited October 21, 2015 by jimmy2x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted October 21, 2015 #24 Share Posted October 21, 2015 T Gotta love the black socks! Looks like a postman on holiday. He was identified as a lawyer, so the black socks make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted October 21, 2015 #25 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) T Gotta love the black socks! Looks like a postman on holiday. Pretty close huh? ;) Just missing the pith helmet for the sun. Black socks; tres European Edited October 21, 2015 by Copper10-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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