Rude Passengers

[MicCanberra]

I have a theory - those of us who use mass transit systems to commute to work each day, are more aware of the 'let the people out of the tin box first' principle. It is an automatic reaction for me, being a London Tube commuter. We seem able to cope with crowds better.

 

For these reasons and more (health and fitness), I avoid the elevators as much as possible.:D

[MicCanberra]

Thankfully, there's more good, thoughtful and caring folks than there are the other's!

 

And, we all serve as mirrors to each other.......what we give, we get back!

 

I like it.

I smile at people (even the ones angry at me) and it often works that the other does too. :D

On the ones it doesn't work they just get angrier but now for other reasons.:eek:

[Astro Flyer]

For these reasons and more (health and fitness), I avoid the elevators as much as possible.:D

Me too...and it helps to burn off a few calories. :D

[4boysnana]

Thank you to the well traveled and knowing people that share their expertise on these boards. I always hope the cruise lines take note and hear from the few that struggle and yet still really want to travel despite challenges.

I am one of those cruisers that waits at the elevator and waits as people rush to get on and heaven forbid they wait or give room for a scooter or walker. I have waited as elevator after elevator goes by until I find one that I can use.

On one deck plan I saw a wheelchair symbol on an elevator on a lido deck. Are there elevators that are or could be reserved for assisted device use? I know changes are coming from the ADA and it would speed up the other elevators and we would not hold up the masses. Many people are kind would do anything to help but if we had a key card just for use on the cruise for a selected elevator it would give us freedom.

I wish I could take the stairs and I know there are ever increasing numbers of cruisers that need a little help. Thanks for listening.

 

4boysnana

[wizard-of-roz]

Thank you to the well traveled and knowing people that share their expertise on these boards. I always hope the cruise lines take note and hear from the few that struggle and yet still really want to travel despite challenges.

I am one of those cruisers that waits at the elevator and waits as people rush to get on and heaven forbid they wait or give room for a scooter or walker. I have waited as elevator after elevator goes by until I find one that I can use.

On one deck plan I saw a wheelchair symbol on an elevator on a lido deck. Are there elevators that are or could be reserved for assisted device use? I know changes are coming from the ADA and it would speed up the other elevators and we would not hold up the masses. Many people are kind would do anything to help but if we had a key card just for use on the cruise for a selected elevator it would give us freedom.

I wish I could take the stairs and I know there are ever increasing numbers of cruisers that need a little help. Thanks for listening.

 

4boysnana

 

Right now, there really is no such thing but it would be a good idea.

 

I trust in the good nature of the majority of the people who travel by cruise ship to allow me room in the elevator for my Service Dog and me. We may look more like a small parade as we wheel our way into an elevator or through a doorway or up the aisle of the dining room but we sure do appreciate the kindness of others and promise to move aside as fast as we can so that you can make your way to your next destination ♥

[ar1950]

I have a more global thought that might "help" our country become a thoughtful, kind and respectful place.

 

In Japan, the schools do not have janitors. The students all participate in the care and upkeep of the school. The belief is that students are more respectful, responsible and the feeling of equality is evident. Further they are taught to hold doors, offer assistance and be polite.

 

I think this system is perfect for a melting pot society like ours. Since parents are afraid to parent anymore, the schools can benefit by helping take up the basic training required to be responsible, respectful and cooperative. Better than the direction we are headed.

 

Not a bad idea, however, it would probably run afoul of child labor laws here in the US. Not to mention how many folks would claim that it was child abuse, unfair, discriminating, and who knows what other PC stuff would get thrown into the mix.

 

Unfortunately, probably the direction that we are headed is the direction we will end up in.

Edited July 31, 2015 by ar1950

[MommaBear55]

I can remember one time listening to a man belittling and yelling at his wife. I finally said "excuse me, but does your rudeness come naturally or do you have to work at it?"

 

He was quiet the rest of the bus trip.

 

There are cultural differences such as queueing vs pushing in as a group or different understanding of personal space but civility and courtesy should be universal. There is no reason not to say please and thank you.

[shredie]

Not a bad idea, however, it would probably run afoul of child labor laws here in the US. Not to mention how many folks would claim that it was child abuse, unfair, discriminating, and who knows what other PC stuff would get thrown into the mix.

 

I don't think I want kids running loose with toxic cleaning products and dangerous power tools. Nothing PC about it.

[sfaaa]

Not a bad idea, however, it would probably run afoul of child labor laws here in the US. Not to mention how many folks would claim that it was child abuse, unfair, discriminating, and who knows what other PC stuff would get thrown into the mix.

 

Unfortunately, probably the direction that we are headed is the direction we will end up in.

 

Nothing a USMC drill sergeant can't fix. All these rude characters and their bad behaving kids will be saying Yes Sir, No Sir when they are done with boot camp.

[MicCanberra]

Nothing a USMC drill sergeant can't fix. All these rude characters and their bad behaving kids will be saying Yes Sir, No Sir when they are done with boot camp.

 

So are you all advocating the use of school children as the labour on cruise ships. Unbelievable what lengths people will go to save on the cruise fares and tips.:eek:

[N2Mischief]

Gotta make a comment on the elevator thing. On a recent cruise, we were waiting for the elevator. It came, the doors opened and there were 3 girls in their early 20's inside. My DH and I stood to the side to let them out. All 3 had their noses buried in their cell phones and hadn't even noticed the elevator had stopped. The doors started to close so my DH caught them and I started to enter the elevator assuming the 3 girls were staying on. Right then one of them looked up from her phone, and snapped at me, "you are rude! you are supposed to let people off before you get on"!

 

I think my jaw dropped to the floor and I followed her out of the elevator and called her a few choice names which was very immature of me but I was just so offended!

 

I think people need to get their noses out of their electronic devices and pay attention to what goes on around them.

[rentlady]

I am a senior citizen who is lame and walks with a cane. I enjoy cruising except for the nightmare of the elevators. I face the issue of healthy passengers jumping ahead of me to enter an elevator. I can't manage the stairs so this is not an option.Should a elevator open that is not directly in front of me, I usually can't get on because others jump on before I can get there. once I actually broke down crying because I couldn't catch an elevator after waiting a long time, and standing long periods is very difficult .Please show a little curtesy to the handicapped passengers. Thank you!

[Astro Flyer]

I am a senior citizen who is lame and walks with a cane. I enjoy cruising except for the nightmare of the elevators. I face the issue of healthy passengers jumping ahead of me to enter an elevator. I can't manage the stairs so this is not an option.Should a elevator open that is not directly in front of me, I usually can't get on because others jump on before I can get there. once I actually broke down crying because I couldn't catch an elevator after waiting a long time, and standing long periods is very difficult .Please show a little curtesy to the handicapped passengers. Thank you!

 

And to have the courtesy to hold the door open when someone is attempting to get on an elevator...particularly for anyone with mobility issues.

Edited July 31, 2015 by Astro Flyer

[crochetcruise]

Gotta make a comment on the elevator thing. On a recent cruise, we were waiting for the elevator. It came, the doors opened and there were 3 girls in their early 20's inside. My DH and I stood to the side to let them out. All 3 had their noses buried in their cell phones and hadn't even noticed the elevator had stopped. The doors started to close so my DH caught them and I started to enter the elevator assuming the 3 girls were staying on. Right then one of them looked up from her phone, and snapped at me, "you are rude! you are supposed to let people off before you get on"!

 

I think my jaw dropped to the floor and I followed her out of the elevator and called her a few choice names which was very immature of me but I was just so offended!

 

I think people need to get their noses out of their electronic devices and pay attention to what goes on around them.

 

I would have told her, "If the rude THINGwould actually get out of the elevator so I could get in, I would. I honestly thought you were going to another floor when you didn't come out of the lift!"

[Linerguy]

The thing that always gets my knickers in a twist is when I see people snapping their fingers to get a wait staff's attention....as if they're their slave or something.

 

And then there's the time I saw two different people flossing their teeth as they were walking out of the dining room. Nice.

[BAI@bay]

On a Cruise we traveled with our friends, In the Dining Room someone at a nearby table was berating a waiter about his drink and using some not so polite language. Our friend who is African American, retired US Army Special Forces officer just leaned over ans asked the man to please lower his voice as he was disturbing those around him. That was the last time we saw them in the dining room.

 

We also found out the obvious that if you accept and respect the staff as people and professionals then they will go out of their way to make your cruise a vacation to be enjoyed and remembered.

 

One such time we were trying to get back to the tenders in Grand Cayman, anyone who has been there when up to 6 large ships are in knows how chaotic it can be. Our waiter spotted us and escorted us to the head of our tender Line and saw to it that the tender crew got us aboard the next tender, ahead of the huge line behind us. We sent a commendation letter after the cruise and got a thank you from him, and noting that he got a cash reward for the letter. Overall I know that we made a friend with him that cruise and I hopes he cherishes our meeting as we cherish him.

[tml1230]

On a Cruise we traveled with our friends, In the Dining Room someone at a nearby table was berating a waiter about his drink and using some not so polite language. Our friend who is African American, retired US Army Special Forces officer just leaned over ans asked the man to please lower his voice as he was disturbing those around him. That was the last time we saw them in the dining room.

 

We also found out the obvious that if you accept and respect the staff as people and professionals then they will go out of their way to make your cruise a vacation to be enjoyed and remembered.

 

One such time we were trying to get back to the tenders in Grand Cayman, anyone who has been there when up to 6 large ships are in knows how chaotic it can be. Our waiter spotted us and escorted us to the head of our tender Line and saw to it that the tender crew got us aboard the next tender, ahead of the huge line behind us. We sent a commendation letter after the cruise and got a thank you from him, and noting that he got a cash reward for the letter. Overall I know that we made a friend with him that cruise and I hopes he cherishes our meeting as we cherish him.

 

Ok..i gotta ask and will probably regret it…" escorted us to the head of the tender line" …."ahead of the huge line behind us" isn't that cutting in line? which may qualify as rude behavior? Also trying to figure out what the ethnicity of the retired officer has to with your example.

[wizard-of-roz]

Ok..i gotta ask and will probably regret it…" escorted us to the head of the tender line" …."ahead of the huge line behind us" isn't that cutting in line? which may qualify as rude behavior? Also trying to figure out what the ethnicity of the retired officer has to with your example.

 

No regrets, I kind of want to know why that was mentioned too! I didn't see why it pertained to anything!

[Colo Cruiser]

No regrets, I kind of want to know why that was mentioned too! I didn't see why it pertained to anything!

 

 

Neither does someones race. :confused:

[wizard-of-roz]

Neither does someones race. :confused:

 

As some say; "some of my best friends are [fill in the blank]. I don't have much patience for that type of comment or the behavior that accompanies it!

[sfaaa]

As some say; "some of my best friends are [fill in the blank]. I don't have much patience for that type of comment or the behavior that accompanies it!

 

Let me guess. You are not a fan of Donald Trump.:)

[shredie]

I am a senior citizen who is lame and walks with a cane. I enjoy cruising except for the nightmare of the elevators. I face the issue of healthy passengers jumping ahead of me to enter an elevator. I can't manage the stairs so this is not an option.Should a elevator open that is not directly in front of me, I usually can't get on because others jump on before I can get there. once I actually broke down crying because I couldn't catch an elevator after waiting a long time, and standing long periods is very difficult .Please show a little curtesy to the handicapped passengers. Thank you!

 

That is a sad story. One thing we do on cruises is give the grandkids some opportunity to practice good manners. Elevator manners are not really something they get to practice in their daily life in a small town. On the ship, they have it figured out. They also have a chance to practice their best table manners in the MDR, and they really like doing the formal night thing in their finery. In the kids' club, I have arrived to pick them up and found them loud and active little boys, as normal, but they do say thank you to the ladies when they leave.

[wizard-of-roz]

Let me guess. You are not a fan of Donald Trump.:)

 

Runs a great hotel! Bout it!!!!

[wizard-of-roz]

That is a sad story. One thing we do on cruises is give the grandkids some opportunity to practice good manners. Elevator manners are not really something they get to practice in their daily life in a small town. On the ship, they have it figured out. They also have a chance to practice their best table manners in the MDR, and they really like doing the formal night thing in their finery. In the kids' club, I have arrived to pick them up and found them loud and active little boys, as normal, but they do say thank you to the ladies when they leave.

 

Kids and Grandkids MUST act with respect to ALL!

[PescadoAmarillo]

I would have told her, "If the rude THINGwould actually get out of the elevator so I could get in, I would. I honestly thought you were going to another floor when you didn't come out of the lift!"

That's just matching rudeness with rudeness. No one wins. I would just smile and say, "So sorry that I've upset you!". That usually stops people short, and leaves me with no regrets.

 

Shredie, good for you for giving the grandkids a chance to practice the good behavior they see modeled by you. That is how you change the world.