ChucktownSteve Posted February 4, 2016 #101 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Personally, I believe the Bare Necessities Constellation charter this month put the definitive conclusion to the what to wear on "chic" night discussion. :D Edited February 4, 2016 by ChucktownSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted February 4, 2016 #102 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Looking at the recent photos posted of models in Evening Chic jeans I had one thought, well more than one but the one I want to share is: How would the average Celebrity passenger look in these fashions? Not as good as the photos that's for sure. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz4evr Posted February 4, 2016 #103 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I like to see people nicely dressed. Classy is always classy, and jeans have never been nor classy or elegant clothes. Designers are promoting these images, that jeans are chic, so people will pay $$$ for them. They were made as a work clothes, so I would never consider them as chic clothes. I always dress up on the cruise and will wear elegant cocktail dresses for " formal" evenings. But that is me. Downgrading in clothes choices diminishes the cruising experience. I have to agree with you 100%! DH and I will be cruising on Celebrity in May for the first time. We will enjoy dressing up each night as we have always done on past cruises (although not in formal attire) even though most nights are smart casual with the exception of evening Chic...for us it's part of the fun and the total cruise experience. I have nothing against wearing jeans but NOT to dinner on a cruise. I wear them often enough when running errands, LOL! Some might think there are jeans which look chic and that's fine, it's just not my opinion. Cheers! Edited February 4, 2016 by cruz4evr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted February 4, 2016 #104 Share Posted February 4, 2016 While we're all entitled to our opinion the important part is that Celebrity sets the rules, not you. As my wife frequently reminds me, I'm only in charge of me. Exactly! I dress for myself and will not downgrade my dress choices just because Celebrity does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Villager Posted February 4, 2016 #105 Share Posted February 4, 2016 In a few years the majority of cruisers won't know what the term 'formal night' even means, they'll just remember it as something they heard their grandparents mention. Just like most people don't know what a Midnight Buffet is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted February 4, 2016 #106 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I just did b2b cruises on the Summit. It was my first experience with the Evening Chic. Designer jeans? were listed in the approved attire description. I saw a wide array of attire. Women wore a wide variety of dressy clothing. Some men wore tuxedos. Some men wore slacks, ties, and sports jackets or suits. Some men wore slacks with long sleeved dress shirts with/without ties. Some men wore short sleeved shirts with collars and slacks/jeans. Some wore crew collared tees and jeans. I also saw men in shorts at the show. Not sure whether they wore them into the MDR. Blu rejected men wearing shorts. It was a mixture of the old formal night and anything goes. At the cruise critics social gathering, the question "what is evening chic?" Answer was that it goes with the modern luxury concept. Next question was " what is modern luxury?" Answer was unclear. I am still not sure what is meant by evening chic or modern luxury. It seems like you can wear almost anything. The Celebrity website and the brochure in the cabin still states that cruise has formal nights. I got the email in November announcing the end of the formal nights. Not everyone on the ship received the email or knew about the end of formal night. Some folks were upset that they didn't know before packing for the cruise. Leaving formal attire home made packing lighter. It will likely take months before everyone truly abandons the formal attire. For now, it is a mixed bag. Bring whatever you want to wear. Trash is as trash does. That being said. The dress codes apply only in the restaurants. Dress style(or lack thereof)really isn't enforced in places like the theater/lounges/casino etc. Cunard is the only line I know that keeps it pretty strict across the board. The Onslows of the world would obviously love to change that. Luckily, most of us that do Cunard(and Celebrity)still have a pretty good sense of decorum. Those that will flame me(and they will)are pretty obvious. Just check their "Icons". Always seems to be the same group. Very easy to identify them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizen Susan Posted February 4, 2016 #107 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Celebrity probably hired some idiot who has alternative views and is responsible for this "evening chic". I'm modern in my 30's and never heard of chic???? How do they expect senior cruisers to take this concept. I'm all for the two formal nights. Is it that hard for people to dress up and look nice ? No, it should not be that hard for people to dress up and look nice. Let's keep Celebrity the classy line that it has always been. You are a man of taste and good sense. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizen Susan Posted February 4, 2016 #108 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Trash is as trash does. That being said. The dress codes apply only in the restaurants. Dress style(or lack thereof)really isn't enforced in places like the theater/lounges/casino etc. Cunard is the only line I know that keeps it pretty strict across the board. The Onslows of the world would obviously love to change that. Luckily, most of us that do Cunard(and Celebrity)still have a pretty good sense of decorum. Those that will flame me(and they will)are pretty obvious. Just check their "Icons". Always seems to be the same group. Very easy to identify them. Thank you. Well said. Glad we "types" are still in the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriffJoe Posted February 4, 2016 #109 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hubby will continue to wear his tux. I love it. Nothing like seeing men in a tux:D Wear what you are comfortable with, it's your vacation. We did see someone get turned away with shorts on at the MDR door. He looked nice, very neat but no shorts. Think that the tux takes up no more room in the luggage than a sport jacket and slacks. So that explaination does not make it. It is a shame that young people today do not want to be in something else but jeans and a shirt. I wear jeans all week long and on weekends. When we cruise we like to dress up. Step out of our everyday and enjoy our vacation the way we like to cruise. Be happy, enjoy life and have fun! That is what vacation is all about. Happy Sailing, That's the point... MANY people wear suits everyday and enjoy not wearing them while on vacation whereas you are the opposite which is fine, your usual attire is jeans and when you cruise you like to play dress up, I get that but don't think everyone else should too....both are fine...its the MDR police who "think" blathering here about how easy it is to pack or how it diminishes their experience will change someone's mind about how they want to dress which since from DAY 1 of cruise critic it will not! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Bell Posted February 4, 2016 #110 Share Posted February 4, 2016 That's the point... MANY people wear suits everyday and enjoy not wearing them while on vacation whereas you are the opposite which is fine, your usual attire is jeans and when you cruise you like to play dress up, I get that but don't think everyone else should too....both are fine...its the MDR police who "think" blathering here about how easy it is to pack or how it diminishes their experience will change someone's mind about how they want to dress which since from DAY 1 of cruise critic it will not! :rolleyes: People who are used to dressing nicely are very comfortable in their clothing and are not "playing" anything. They usually have enough sense to make sure the clothing fits and is made of comfortable modern fabric. I wear jeans but my other pants are much more comfortable. You can wear whatever you like and it won't bother me one bit but the idea that jeans and sloppy clothing are more comfortable is childish. It's not necessary to make excuses for how one looks, just own it. That's me in the red dress, perfectly comfortable and not "going to the prom". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Bell Posted February 4, 2016 #111 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Here are a couple of us on just a normal night. I'd feel uncomfortable sitting in that lovely dining room in jeans and flip flops. To each his own. Edited February 4, 2016 by Ma Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizen Susan Posted February 4, 2016 #112 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) People who are used to dressing nicely are very comfortable in their clothing and are not "playing" anything. They usually have enough sense to make sure the clothing fits and is made of comfortable modern fabric. I wear jeans but my other pants are much more comfortable. You can wear whatever you like and it won't bother me one bit but the idea that jeans and sloppy clothing are more comfortable is childish. It's not necessary to make excuses for how one looks, just own it. That's me in the red dress, perfectly comfortable and not "going to the prom". You are so so correct. I work as a professional, and am very comfortable in my "work" clothes. I could wear any one of those outfits to the MDR. However, I take it up a notch with a long skirt, or maxi-dress, and bling accessories. It's fun, I enjoy it, and I have getting ready for dinner down to a science. It takes no time to get ready, while DH enjoys a drink on the balcony. Bottom line: I don't "play dress-up." It also takes no time to pack either, because I have a cruise closet, and I just pull a few items, and switch them off from the last cruise. DH is a contractor, and needs a sportcoat and tie sometimes for meetings, and khakis and sportshirt on the job site. He also enjoys taking it up a notch with the dark suit or tux. Btw, you look beautiful in your red dress, and your companions look lovely as well. THIS is what I'm talkin' bout! Edited February 4, 2016 by Cruisen'Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted February 4, 2016 #113 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here are a couple of us on just a normal night. I'd feel uncomfortable sitting in that lovely dining room in jeans and flip flops. To each his own. And me and my DH were dining with MaBell every evening. We enjoy dressing chic, and find we feel more comfortable doing so. Karyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpgcycler Posted February 4, 2016 #114 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here are a couple of us on just a normal night. I'd feel uncomfortable sitting in that lovely dining room in jeans and flip flops. To each his own. We prefer to make a bit of an effort and, like you would feel uncomfortable in jeans and flip flops in that setting too. The problem I have with this thread is those complaining that they have to share the space with others who don't dress as "nicely" as themselves. They seem to not share your respectful view of "to each his own". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare villauk Posted February 4, 2016 #115 Share Posted February 4, 2016 respectful view of "to each his own". And here lies the issue. The 'majority', as someone posted on the previous page, probably don't have a problem with how anyone else dresses - 'to each his/her own' as you said. They concentrate more on the enjoyment of THEIR cruise. I will continue to dress for dinner the way I always have, but for others to comment and disrespect people for attending in what they feel comfortable with (and is within the suggested guidelines of the cruiseline), in my opinion, is wrong. Just because someone wears a long frock doesn't mean they are any better than the next person, and to call others trash is plainly nothing more than rudeness. No one is stopping you wearing what you have always worn. So what's the problem? Many will probably continue to dress the way they always have. They will also wear what they are comfortable in and, get this, undoubtably what THEY feel good in. A cruise is not a fashion show or a corporate event, or even a red carpet occasion, it's a vacation (and a paid for one at that). Next, we'll be reading that if a woman isn't wearing 4" of makeup and at least a 3" heel, she hasn't made a big enough effort. Get real people, there are more things to worry about in life than the length, style and fabric of another's attire. I'm sure there are thousands of people in this world that wished it was the only worry they had ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
followyourheart Posted February 5, 2016 #116 Share Posted February 5, 2016 And here lies the issue. The 'majority', as someone posted on the previous page, probably don't have a problem with how anyone else dresses - 'to each his/her own' as you said. They concentrate more on the enjoyment of THEIR cruise. I will continue to dress for dinner the way I always have, but for others to comment and disrespect people for attending in what they feel comfortable with (and is within the suggested guidelines of the cruiseline), in my opinion, is wrong. Just because someone wears a long frock doesn't mean they are any better than the next person, and to call others trash is plainly nothing more than rudeness. No one is stopping you wearing what you have always worn. So what's the problem? Many will probably continue to dress the way they always have. They will also wear what they are comfortable in and, get this, undoubtably what THEY feel good in. A cruise is not a fashion show or a corporate event, or even a red carpet occasion, it's a vacation (and a paid for one at that). Next, we'll be reading that if a woman isn't wearing 4" of makeup and at least a 3" heel, she hasn't made a big enough effort. Get real people, there are more things to worry about in life than the length, style and fabric of another's attire. I'm sure there are thousands of people in this world that wished it was the only worry they had ;). Great post! I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted February 5, 2016 #117 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I really don't care what others are wearing, whether they are making a statement by dressing to the 9's or just very fashionably, yet more casually dressed...business casual, to me is also ok. But when someone shows up on "formal" night in the MDR in old bib overalls and a plaid shirt, they are also making a statement....and that statement is that they don't care what the "rules" are or what is "expected". They are thumbing their noses at the rest of us. There are limits. JMHO! With that said, it will not affect my enjoyment of my dinner and/or my cruise experience. Edited February 5, 2016 by suzyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorman23 Posted February 5, 2016 #118 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) And here lies the issue. The 'majority', as someone posted on the previous page, probably don't have a problem with how anyone else dresses - 'to each his/her own' as you said. They concentrate more on the enjoyment of THEIR cruise. I will continue to dress for dinner the way I always have, but for others to comment and disrespect people for attending in what they feel comfortable with (and is within the suggested guidelines of the cruiseline), in my opinion, is wrong. Just because someone wears a long frock doesn't mean they are any better than the next person, and to call others trash is plainly nothing more than rudeness. No one is stopping you wearing what you have always worn. So what's the problem? Many will probably continue to dress the way they always have. They will also wear what they are comfortable in and, get this, undoubtably what THEY feel good in. A cruise is not a fashion show or a corporate event, or even a red carpet occasion, it's a vacation (and a paid for one at that). Next, we'll be reading that if a woman isn't wearing 4" of makeup and at least a 3" heel, she hasn't made a big enough effort. Get real people, there are more things to worry about in life than the length, style and fabric of another's attire. I'm sure there are thousands of people in this world that wished it was the only worry they had ;). Great post, my wife and I are planning a first time late summer cruise on celebrity and I decided to follow this thread. I can understand people's concerns but I can't understand the mean spirited and rude statements, many based on a preconceived type of person who cruises certain lines. As Taylor Swift said.... Why are you being so mean. Enjoy life, we are here for such a sort period of time. I am not going to wear jeans to dinner but I won't be in a tux either, hopefully you want prejudge me based on that. Mike Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Edited February 5, 2016 by Motorman23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 5, 2016 #119 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Do you not recognize that every one of these looks are day wear, not evening? Believe it or not, not everybody goes out shopping for the day in sweat pants. If these photos bother you, I would suggest your association with Celebrity end because you're not going to have a good time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerslou Posted February 5, 2016 #120 Share Posted February 5, 2016 “I don't care what you think about me. I don't think about you at all.” ― Coco Chanel Yes......she really did say it.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosoxI Posted February 5, 2016 #121 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Totally not true. We fly with a suitcase each and YES we still take formal. Just depends what you take and how you pack. Totally not true to the extent that most of us pack to fill the suitcase. We did 23 days on the Eclipse in December. I did not pack a tux, and I saved considerable space in not taking my rather large and heavy dress shoes. But what I did do is fill the void with two sports jackets and several extra pairs of slacks. I always wear a blazer on the plane with dressy slacks (yes, I am that old:D). Did I save any weight? Not an ounce. Our two rollers came in a 50#, just as they always did. I doubt we are the exceptions. The good thing was that on elegant chic night, virtually every one, young and old, dressed quite well. The people who say "You can still wear a tux" are missing the obvious point of sticking out like a sore thumb in a sea of chinos and sports shirts. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgy64 Posted February 5, 2016 #122 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The people who say "You can still wear a tux" are missing the obvious point of sticking out like a sore thumb in a sea of chinos and sports shirts. And some are missing the point that those who do want to wear a Tux couldn't care less whether they stick out like a sore thumb or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruin Steve Posted February 5, 2016 #123 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I hate to tell some of you folks this, but I think the "Chic" thing is merely transitional...and, eventually, all (or most) cruise lines go to casual dress EVERY night... Oceania has a "Country Club Casual" dress code every night...and it works perfectly fine...The mode of dress hasn't sunk to Carnival standards...It is very possible to look very nice and to dress with class without wearing gowns and tuxedos. Of course, on Oceania, we've always seen a few older folks with suits and ties and even formal wear...but, really, nobody cares...Dress in what you want... Now, for years, I have always played by the rules of whatever cruise line I am on...but, seriously, dealing withe a tuxedo when traveling is getting old...and it's not just the airline luggage limits or "paying for an extra suitcase"...I'm flying to Florida for my cruise next month First Class--so we get TWO suitcases each...but I just don't want to schlep around two suitcases! Plain and simple... And I don't have a problem figuring out this "Chic" thing...In addition to my regular casual wear, I'm adding a pair of black slacks and a couple of long sleeve black or black/white shirts to the mix and some comfortable black shoes...NO tuxedos, no jackets, no ties, no cuff links and studs, no patent leather tuxedo shoes...nice and easy...really little difference from what I wear on casual nights except the color...less space in the luggage, less concern over needed pressing and dry cleaning...less time to get dressed...more comfortable... Back home in LA, we don't wear formal clothes even to go to the nicest restaurants in town. (Generally only bring out the tux if we're invited to a wedding or similar event that's noted as "Black Tie")... There is nothing sacrosanct about formal night...Tradition? Traditionally, they separated the classes on the ship (and steerage didn't have formal nights!)...Traditionally, you invited guests onboard for bon voyage parties...Traditionally, entertainment meant a string ensemble...Traditionally, you didn't get a balcony...Traditions change... If you really want to wear a tux or a gown, go ahead...Go ahead and wear one every night...wear it up on the pool deck if you want...Just don't worry about what everyone else might be wearing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgy64 Posted February 5, 2016 #124 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I don't worry about what anyone else is wearing.... personally I couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted February 5, 2016 #125 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) What is wrong in liking to be surrounded by well dressed people? Edited February 5, 2016 by ISABELLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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