Lucky TGO Posted June 14, 2016 #326 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) This to me is quite irritating since they are now going to take away from the AT dining room so that the "Club Class" diners can arrive at any time to a table & be seated immediately- as I understand it. Yes, I realize that they're paying for the privilege but as an Elite person with many dozens & of cruises, it means nothing to Princess. The way things are today I am clearly against making standing reservations at this time for the AT dining room but if I find that with the new "Club Class" is taking away from the seating & service I'll have to rethink my decision & may go back to making a standing reservation to be on level with the "Club Class" diners. (at least with seating time). We will see. I just changed from AT dining to T dining at 6pm. I don't want to deal with all this Club Class ??????. At our table of 8 we are all Elite Members just not sure if Princess's cares any more ?? Tony Edited June 14, 2016 by Lucky TGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted June 15, 2016 #327 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Ahhhh, the caste system comes to Princess! :eek: Everything old is new again. I predicted a return to an onboard class system to increase revenue eventually. They won't call it "First Class", but that is what it amounts to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted June 15, 2016 #328 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I just changed from AT dining to T dining at 6pm. I don't want to deal with all this Club Class ??????. At our table of 8 we are all Elite Members just not sure if Princess's cares any more ??Tony They do care.....only if you pay the price. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky TGO Posted June 16, 2016 #329 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Everything old is new again. I predicted a return to an onboard class system to increase revenue eventually. They won't call it "First Class", but that is what it amounts to. Princess may not call it "First Class", But will they treat everyone else as Second Class passengers?? :eek: :eek: Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted June 16, 2016 #330 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Princess may not call it "First Class", But will they treat everyone else as Second Class passengers?? :eek: :eek:Tony Good question! In the old days of multi-class sailings, classes were separated, with each having its own dining and other public rooms. So if you were a second-class passenger, you ate in the second-class dining room. You didn't have to wait for a table in "your" section, while first-class passengers were seated right away at tables being held for them in the same room. You were dining in separate rooms to begin with. But today's ships aren't configured that way, at least for now. It will be interesting to see how what amounts to two classes sharing an MDR, at least for ATD, with tables being held for some, plays out. Edited June 16, 2016 by SoCal Cruiser78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader0108598 Posted June 22, 2016 #331 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I notice people mention that they are elite. You are the last customers Princess wants to keep. :( sad but true. Reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deise17311 Posted June 22, 2016 #332 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I notice people mention that they are elite. You are the last customers Princess wants to keep. :( sad but true. Reader Yes they mention it over and over and over - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotto97 Posted June 23, 2016 #333 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I notice people mention that they are elite. You are the last customers Princess wants to keep. :( sad but true. Reader Could you please explain why you feel this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehwalt Posted June 23, 2016 #334 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Could you please explain why you feel this way? I've heard the theory that we cost Princess more and spend less onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotto97 Posted June 23, 2016 #335 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I've heard the theory that we cost Princess more and spend less onboard. Perhaps, but if Princess didn't want Elite guests they could easily do way with the loyalty program. I assume they use a two-part approach, retain a built-in clientele that can be counted on to fill a percentage of a voyage, but also work on attracting new, younger passengers that may be more profitable. This strategy should be sustainable if conducted correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehwalt Posted June 23, 2016 #336 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Perhaps, but if Princess didn't want Elite guests they could easily do way with the loyalty program. I assume they use a two-part approach, retain a built-in clientele that can be counted on to fill a percentage of a voyage, but also work on attracting new, younger passengers that may be more profitable. This strategy should be sustainable if conducted correctly. Agreed. It's important to keep the rising generation happy too, for now and later. Thus the changes on the ships coming out of drydock, including the unlimited internet plans. You can't tell people to hit logout keys these days, they want to be online constantly (and I concur). Edited June 23, 2016 by Wehwalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSuzie Posted June 23, 2016 #337 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Perhaps, but if Princess didn't want Elite guests they could easily do way with the loyalty program. I assume they use a two-part approach, retain a built-in clientele that can be counted on to fill a percentage of a voyage, but also work on attracting new, younger passengers that may be more profitable. This strategy should be sustainable if conducted correctly. I really agree with you, Scott. I do not believe Princess wants to "do away" with Elite guests. We are actually the backbone of their cruising. I believe the new Club Class is a means for non-Elite to enjoy some of the Elite perks. Elite passengers have paid dearly for that status, and Princess seems to have a grasp of that concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtb55 Posted June 24, 2016 #338 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Princess may not call it "First Class", But will they treat everyone else as Second Class passengers?? :eek: :eek: Tony Do you feel like a Second Class passenger now because Suites get a special breakfast and a free dinner the first night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deise17311 Posted June 24, 2016 #339 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Seems bizarre to me people rapidly changing their travel plans based on something that has not even been started yet - so they have a small section of dining room - big deal - good lord are there not bigger problems out there? - get over it and enjoy your vacation - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happytovacation Posted June 24, 2016 #340 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Are they not offering the new beds for the New Class as well. That's what my notice said that they sent me as my mini suite was upgraded to M1. Happy Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSuzie Posted June 24, 2016 #341 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Are they not offering the new beds for the New Class as well. That's what my notice said that they sent me as my mini suite was upgraded to M1. Happy Travels I really do not understand the "new bed" concept. I believe the "new beds" have already been in place on the Ruby since last January. They are a very dreamy bed, by the way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted June 24, 2016 #342 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Seems bizarre to me people rapidly changing their travel plans based on something that has not even been started yet - so they have a small section of dining room - big deal - good lord are there not bigger problems out there? - get over it and enjoy your vacation - I've got no problem with Princess treating them with better service & a better menu, but when they hold a section of the AT dining room for them to arrive whenever the mood strikes them, that bothers me. Holding seats for people that pay the price that can only mean slowing down things for the rest of us. It'll prove interesting to see how long the waits are now going to be when they hand out beepers for people that arrive between 6:16 & 8 PM. Maybe they can hold some reserved seats for them in the show lounge also.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cflutist Posted June 24, 2016 #343 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I've got no problem with Princess treating them with better service & a better menu, but when they hold a section of the AT dining room for them to arrive whenever the mood strikes them, that bothers me. Holding seats for people that pay the price that can only mean slowing down things for the rest of us. It'll prove interesting to see how long the waits are now going to be when they hand out beepers for people that arrive between 6:16 & 8 PM. Maybe they can hold some reserved seats for them in the show lounge also.:rolleyes: As someone who sails in suites, that would be a great idea :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted June 24, 2016 #344 Share Posted June 24, 2016 As someone who sails in suites, that would be a great idea :D What can I say except I'm grateful they don't. People in suites get enough benefits as it is. Yea I know. You've paid for it. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Crucero Posted June 24, 2016 #345 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Holding seats for people that pay the price that can only mean slowing down things for the rest of us. It'll prove interesting to see how long the waits are now going to be when they hand out beepers for people that arrive between 6:16 & 8 PM. Celebrity carved out TWO private restaurants with separate menus in the MDR for Suite and Aqua class passengers about two years ago. It appears that it hasn't slowed down anything in the MDR as a result. Celebrity has a much better Anytime dining system and organization than Princess. Maybe they can hold some reserved seats for them in the show lounge also.:rolleyes: Celebrity has reserved seats in the front of the Theater for Suite guests. They hold these seats until 15 minutes before showtime and then release them for first come, first served. It doesn't seem to cause any problems. I prefer seats in the back of the Theater so I can leave without fanfare if I don't like the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtb55 Posted June 24, 2016 #346 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ...Maybe they can hold some reserved seats for them in the show lounge also.:rolleyes: Sounds like an awesome idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deise17311 Posted June 24, 2016 #347 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I've got no problem with Princess treating them with better service & a better menu, but when they hold a section of the AT dining room for them to arrive whenever the mood strikes them, that bothers me. Holding seats for people that pay the price that can only mean slowing down things for the rest of us. It'll prove interesting to see how long the waits are now going to be when they hand out beepers for people that arrive between 6:16 & 8 PM. Maybe they can hold some reserved seats for them in the show lounge also.:rolleyes: But isn't anytime dining about arriving when the mood strikes you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted June 25, 2016 #348 Share Posted June 25, 2016 But isn't anytime dining about arriving when the mood strikes you? It is as long as you don't arrive between 6:30 and 8 PM, otherwise there's usually a wait depending on what size table is requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDC1 Posted June 25, 2016 #349 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Celebrity carved out TWO private restaurants with separate menus in the MDR for Suite and Aqua class passengers about two years ago. It appears that it hasn't slowed down anything in the MDR as a result. Celebrity has a much better Anytime dining system and organization than Princess. Celebrity has reserved seats in the front of the Theater for Suite guests. They hold these seats until 15 minutes before showtime and then release them for first come, first served. It doesn't seem to cause any problems. I prefer seats in the back of the Theater so I can leave without fanfare if I don't like the show. The Celebrity MDR has gotten much more crowded and noisier since they made the changes. Space between tables is considerably tighter. On the recent Celebrity ships I have been on they save the center section of the balcony. Have not seen a Celebrity ship where they save seats in the front of the lower section. What ship do they do that on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Crucero Posted June 25, 2016 #350 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The Celebrity MDR has gotten much more crowded and noisier since they made the changes. It must have been Spring Break week! What ship do they do that on? To quote Sarah Palin, "All of 'em" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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