Visitors from non-YC area to YC

[windlicht]

Ok .. you're saying 2 different things here. YES, his friend CAN hang out IN the cabin ... for FREE. OR ...

YES his friend can hang out ANYWHERE in YC for $110/day or whatever the fee.

But IN the cabin ... there is NO fee, from what has been stated here.

 

Oh. I took to to mean 110 dollars ANYWHERE in the YC, including the cabins - due to mini bar or whatever. The non-YC teenager might have the nerve to drink one of the sodas ;-)

I'll ask the butler or concierge when we arrive. It doesn't matter that much anyway because - as others pointed out - my son won't be around much, except for his mandatory dinner with me. On the other hand, he enjoys playing host so.... well, I'll find out.

[LorraineP]

I'm sailing in 12 days in the YC. I will absolutely check and report back. I plan to write a full photo-review.

 

 

Wonderful. Thank you!

[windlicht]

I'm sailing in 12 days in the YC. I will absolutely check and report back. I plan to write a full photo-review.

 

awesome! I'm looking forward to it!

 

There are still not enough actual reviews, basically nothing about the YC. The reviews that are available are kind of sad - people seem to have somewhat unrealistic expectations and I suspect at least a couple of "fake" reviews. Come on, even if you had to wait for two hours to get off the ship and the brand-new-and-just-oriented staff did not exactly know the way to your specific cabin, you should not feel that the cruise is only worth 1 star and MSC the worst cruise line ever. And seriously, if you can't find your cabin on a cruise ship, there is something wrong with you. :confused: OK, rant over.

 

Anyway, I am looking for "experience reviews" instead of generic "these are your amenities" reviews.

[eroller]

My reviews are fairly detailed with around 400-500 pics, all of the ship and taken when no one is around. I try to be as objective as possible. No cruise is 100% positive or 100% negative, and the absolute perfect ship doesn’t exist. I barely mention the ports as it’s all about the ship for me. Lots of experience to go from. Over 100 cruises taken on the vast majority of cruise lines from Silversea to Carnival. I’m not loyal to any line and enjoy trying them all. My weakness is a brand new prototype design, which Seaside fits the bill.

 

I’ve sailed MSC before but the first time in the YC. I have sailed in the Haven with NCL and that is really the closest competitor.

Edited January 8, 2018 by eroller

[Lovetocruise2002]

I'm sailing in 12 days in the YC. I will absolutely check and report back. I plan to write a full photo-review.

 

 

 

Awesome! Thanks erolller! Like mafig, I'm sailing in July too and booked YC for more space and quiet areas. Slightly worried too as July is a busy travel month for many.

 

 

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[CruiseKitty123]

Oh. I took to to mean 110 dollars ANYWHERE in the YC, including the cabins - due to mini bar or whatever. The non-YC teenager might have the nerve to drink one of the sodas ;-)

I'll ask the butler or concierge when we arrive. It doesn't matter that much anyway because - as others pointed out - my son won't be around much, except for his mandatory dinner with me. On the other hand, he enjoys playing host so.... well, I'll find out.

 

We were told (and subsequently read) that the fee was $110 to ENTER the YC due to the fact that the YC is all inclusive for beverages, etc. I don't believe the fee included eating meals in the private restaurant, however.

 

I understand that you want your son to have his friends over, but it really isn't the venue for him to "play host" as you mention. Others have paid a premium to stay in the YC. I'm not trying to be snobby at all, but we choose to pay for the YC to avoid the crowded pool, less children at the pool, etc. I would never expect to have our friends join us in the YC. Let's be honest too...most people would not just sit in the YC room once in the YC, and here lies the problem. :o

[SNJCruisers]

We think the problem was compounded by passengers letting in family members from outside the YC. There were a lot of of large families in there. The concierge alluded to it as well.

I have to assume that we will not have the same problem on the Seaside when we're in the YC for the first time in a few weeks. If we do, I will give new meaning to the phrase "ugly American". I'm not investing in a slice of the good life for the first time and having the place inundated by those that have not paid for the exclusivity of the Yacht Club. Family members being let in illegally from card carrying members of the "me generation" would not sit well with me at all.

[CruiseKitty123]

Your son's friend can absolutely hang out in the cabin, as well as partake of the mini-fridge items as they are for the cabin. And while some will no doubt take umbrage, I see no issues with you son taking a plate back from the mini-buffet and sharing it.

 

None of what you mention is the policy of the YC (including carrying food back to the rooms). The mini-fridge (w/ premium beverages) is for occupants paying for the YC cabin, not for "the cabin" as you state. Same thing for the lounge refreshments/food. I think you are failing to realize that people staying in the YC pay extra for these things, and the intent is not to entertain others from the rest of the ship.

[windlicht]

We were told (and subsequently read) that the fee was $110 to ENTER the YC due to the fact that the YC is all inclusive for beverages, etc. I don't believe the fee included eating meals in the private restaurant, however.

 

I understand that you want your son to have his friends over, but it really isn't the venue for him to "play host" as you mention. Others have paid a premium to stay in the YC. I'm not trying to be snobby at all, but we choose to pay for the YC to avoid the crowded pool, less children at the pool, etc. I would never expect to have our friends join us in the YC. Let's be honest too...most people would not just sit in the YC room once in the YC, and here lies the problem. :o

 

*sigh* As I mentioned before, I am talking about my cabin. And yes, you do sound a bit snobby. My 16-year-old son playing host means he enjoys having visitors and yes, it's absolutely okay. If they do not permit it, it's also okay but I do not agree with you that "it's not the venue for him to play host."

And I have paid a premium for the YC, too, just like everyone else. I am really astonished at how hostile some people are about this. I get it - no riffraff allowed... not even in our stateroom... because, you know, MONEY. I really hope not all people at the YC are like this.

I understand the need to protect the exclusivity and the peace and quiet, and just having paid for it... but what is it to you whether we have a visitor in our stateroom? Never mind, don't answer that. It's enough for me that you told me a YC stateroom wasn't the venue to play host. I clearly do not understand the etiquette.

[CruiseKitty123]

I have to assume that we will not have the same problem on the Seaside when we're in the YC for the first time in a few weeks. If we do, I will give new meaning to the phrase "ugly American". I'm not investing in a slice of the good life for the first time and having the place inundated by those that have not paid for the exclusivity of the Yacht Club. Family members being let in illegally from card carrying members of the "me generation" would not sit well with me at all.

 

We saw NONE of this when we stayed in the YC last July. The pool was always quiet and relatively empty (even on sea days), and we saw the same faces every day. The YC is small, and you really do learn who is staying there. We also saw the staff hop right on it when someone made their way in that wasn't recognized. They politely asked them for their sea cards, and then quickly escorted them out. We probably saw that happen five times in the first days. It was rather embarrassing for them. Our butler explained that they have to do this as many people wanted to come in for the open bar. She stated that staff get in trouble if they are serving people that aren't staying in the YC.

 

We honestly researched the YC extensively last year before we tried it, and we loved it so much we are returning this summer. :D Happy Cruising!

[windlicht]

We saw NONE of this when we stayed in the YC last July. The pool was always quiet and relatively empty (even on sea days), and we saw the same faces every day. The YC is small, and you really do learn who is staying there. We also saw the staff hop right on it when someone made their way in that wasn't recognized. They politely asked them for their sea cards, and then quickly escorted them out. We probably saw that happen five times in the first days. It was rather embarrassing for them. Our butler explained that they have to do this as many people wanted to come in for the open bar. She stated that staff get in trouble if they are serving people that aren't staying in the YC.

 

We honestly researched the YC extensively last year before we tried it, and we loved it so much we are returning this summer. :D Happy Cruising!

 

Makes sense! Personally, I am definitely looking forward to the YC. I do not want to have a lot of non-YC people in the public areas of the YC, either.

I seem to have offended people with my question. It was just a question, no reason to become hostile or condescending...

[CruiseKitty123]

*sigh* As I mentioned before, I am talking about my cabin. And yes, you do sound a bit snobby. My 16-year-old son playing host means he enjoys having visitors and yes, it's absolutely okay. If they do not permit it, it's also okay but I do not agree with you that "it's not the venue for him to play host."

And I have paid a premium for the YC, too, just like everyone else. I am really astonished at how hostile some people are about this. I get it - no riffraff allowed... not even in our stateroom... because, you know, MONEY. I really hope not all people at the YC are like this.

I understand the need to protect the exclusivity and the peace and quiet, and just having paid for it... but what is it to you whether we have a visitor in our stateroom? Never mind, don't answer that. It's enough for me that you told me a YC stateroom wasn't the venue to play host. I clearly do not understand the etiquette.

 

You have paid for yourself and your son to sail in the YC, not your son's friends. It isn't your home; it's not the venue to "play host" (your words) for the rest of the ship. This ruins the integrity of the YC. I already answered the visitor to the room dilemma. You seem irritated by the answers on this thread, but YOU started the thread and YOU asked people's opinions and the regulations for guests in the YC. People responding in ways with which you disagree have stayed in the YC and appreciate it's integrity. Have a marvelous cruise. :cool:

[SNJCruisers]

We saw NONE of this when we stayed in the YC last July.

Thanks for putting my mind at ease. We are going to be in the YC for the first time and cruising on MSC for the first time in a few weeks. We have liked the exclusivity that we had in the Vibe club on the NCL Escape and we're looking forward to the Havana area on the Carnival Horizon when we sail on her in August of this year and next. Hoping that the YC is all that's it's cracked up to be and we're hoping that someone posts some pictures of the dinner choices over the next couple of weeks so we know what to look forward to. Saw a video of the giant prawns at lunchtime and they looked real appetizing. :p

[CruiseKitty123]

Thanks for putting my mind at ease. We are going to be in the YC for the first time and cruising on MSC for the first time in a few weeks. We have liked the exclusivity that we had in the Vibe club on the NCL Escape and we're looking forward to the Havana area on the Carnival Horizon when we sail on her in August of this year and next. Hoping that the YC is all that's it's cracked up to be and we're hoping that someone posts some pictures of the dinner choices over the next couple of weeks so we know what to look forward to. Saw a video of the giant prawns at lunchtime and they looked real appetizing. :p

Awesome! :cool: For us, the YC exceeded all of our expectations. We travel frequently, but it was the vacation of a lifetime for us...It was that perfect. It is European luxury (down to the food), and you rarely, if ever, read anything negative about the YC experience. Anything negative needs to be really scrutinized (there are some naysayers out there). I hope that you have a truly amazing time!

[CruiseGal999]

None of what you mention is the policy of the YC (including carrying food back to the rooms). The mini-fridge (w/ premium beverages) is for occupants paying for the YC cabin, not for "the cabin" as you state. Same thing for the lounge refreshments/food. I think you are failing to realize that people staying in the YC pay extra for these things, and the intent is not to entertain others from the rest of the ship.

 

Wow ... I think you are taking this to an unnecessary negative level. The son can have a guest in HIS OWN cabin and that 'guest' can certainly have anything he wants out of the mini fridge (paying parent allowing), and the son most certainly can make a plate and bring to cabin for his friend. There will be plenty of food for ALL in the YC .... is this like The OC and all the snobs?

[CruisingFox27]

YC should not permit not YC passengers into YC in my opinion, this isn't about snobbery or keeping the riff raff out as someone described it, (booking YC doesn't exclude you from being riff raff!).

 

For me it's quantity not quality, if we've booked into YC I expect the area not to be busy, for it to be the haven of tranquility promised. We have sailed and are booked to sail for YC and non YC, I don't expect the two experiences to be the same.

[manime]

There seems to be a lot of unnecessary calling out in this thread. I am going to stick up for CruiseKitty here a bit and say they are certainly not being snobbish. The question was asked and CruiseKitty answered as per MSC guidelines, they quite rightly, IMHO, would feel aggrieved after paying so much money to have others who have not paid for that get the same. I personally have no problem with people entertaining in their room and giving them whatever they want from it but as much as I can see why people would love to invite others into YC (other than rooms) where would it stop. As an example, Most kids will make friends on the ship so if all the YC kids invite their friends in this I’m sure would negate part of the reason to stay there in the first place, more space and a bit quieter than the more crowded areas elsewhere. It’s certainly one of the reasons I upgraded to YC after reading initial reviews. I certainly don’t think that’s snobbish more getting what you paid for which on other threads seems to be one of the biggest gripes.

Hey ho that’s my thoughts, be nice people, we are all going on a wonderful journey, what will be will be, good or bad. Wow would the world be a boring place if we all had the same opinions, ask questions, querie answers but above all play nice. We’ve all paid a lot of money wherever we are staying, be thankful we can !

[TrinaLC]

None of what you mention is the policy of the YC (including carrying food back to the rooms). The mini-fridge (w/ premium beverages) is for occupants paying for the YC cabin, not for "the cabin" as you state. Same thing for the lounge refreshments/food. I think you are failing to realize that people staying in the YC pay extra for these things, and the intent is not to entertain others from the rest of the ship.

 

I am not failing to realize that. I have stayed in YC on Divina and have 3 more YC cruises booked.

 

Having a guest visit in the cabin does not impose on other guests, nor does that guest drinking a soda from the mini-fridge impose on other guests. I personally also don't have an issue with bringing a plate back from the mini-buffet as again, hard to see how that imposes on other guests.

 

Guests should not however be allowed in the common areas.

 

I believe having guests in the cabin is expressly permitted by the NCL Haven rules; YC should clarify one way or the other.

[TrinaLC]

You have paid for yourself and your son to sail in the YC, not your son's friends. It isn't your home; it's not the venue to "play host" (your words) for the rest of the ship. This ruins the integrity of the YC. I already answered the visitor to the room dilemma. You seem irritated by the answers on this thread, but YOU started the thread and YOU asked people's opinions and the regulations for guests in the YC. People responding in ways with which you disagree have stayed in the YC and appreciate it's integrity. Have a marvelous cruise. :cool:

 

This may ruin the "integrity" of the YC for you (having a friend visit in cabin), but others have disagreed.

 

The poster certainly is not suggesting playing host "for the rest of the ship" (your words), but having a friend over, to visit in cabin. How can that possibly negatively impact anyone?

 

Would you also suggest that someone who has paid up for a large suite (non-YC) can't invite a friend into the suite?

[CruiseGal999]

YC should not permit not YC passengers into YC in my opinion, this isn't about snobbery or keeping the riff raff out as someone described it, (booking YC doesn't exclude you from being riff raff!).

 

For me it's quantity not quality, if we've booked into YC I expect the area not to be busy, for it to be the haven of tranquility promised. We have sailed and are booked to sail for YC and non YC, I don't expect the two experiences to be the same.

 

The OP is saying his son will be in THEIR CABIN and ONLY IN THEIR CABIN .... no one is talking about public areas! And the son can certainly get a plate of food for HIMSELF and return to HIS cabin and eat or give HIS food to his friend. What is falling through the cracks here? :confused:

[L1211]

Priceless read...

 

 

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[Robkat]

There's so much talk about being IN THE CABIN and ONLY in the cabin, here's my question:

With a big beautiful, exciting ship to explore and be in, why would a teenage boy want to host his friend in the cabin? Being teenage boys, wouldn't they get antsy in there after about ten minutes!

And, for the record, we just had our first MSC cruise, in the Divina in the Yacht Club, and we witnessed families from the Yacht Club letting other members of their family, who weren't staying in the YC, into that area. Having decided to treat ourselves, for all the reasons everyone else has mentioned here, we were pretty ticked off, but for various reasons, decided not to mention it to anyone. Not complaining, since the time to do that would have been then and there in the ship, but just saying.

We do have another cruise booked on the Seaside in YC, and that time, if we see that nonsense going on, we will for sure say something.

I know it's tempting, if you're in YC and know other people, to be magnanimous and say "come on up and have a drink" or "come on up and we'll sit out in the sun together". What's the harm, right? But, for other guests in the YC, it IS totally inappropriate.

Again, just saying.

[mafig]

Didn't anyone else notice or say anything? I guess not.:mad:

 

What about the staff. Did they just turn a blind eye?

 

 

How crowded did this make the area? Were you able to find a lounger? Was the pool mobbed?

[Robkat]

Mafig, if you're directing your questions to me, about our experience,

 

Don't know if anyone else noticed or spoke up about it. It was pretty obvious, as the non-YC family members stood at the glass door that had the card access, and waved at their YC family members, to get them to come over and let them in. I will say that we saw it mostly at the One Bar, during breakfast. Then we'd see those family members walking around in YC during the day.

 

Definitely did not see any of the staff ask them for their cards and then escort them out. They were obviously with family who were in YC.

 

However, one of the reasons we didn't bother ourselves to speak with someone was because the sit-out area was fairly quiet. On the sea days, it was busier of course, but never so that you couldn't get a lounger. It was mostly in the breakfast buffet area that it was noticeable. We just felt that it was terribly inappropriate, and in other circumstances, we would have spoken to someone about it.

[SNJCruisers]

And, for the record, we just had our first MSC cruise, in the Divina in the Yacht Club, and we witnessed families from the Yacht Club letting other members of their family, who weren't staying in the YC, into that area. Having decided to treat ourselves, for all the reasons everyone else has mentioned here, we were pretty ticked off, but for various reasons, decided not to mention it to anyone. Not complaining, since the time to do that would have been then and there in the ship, but just saying..

You're getting my blood boiling as I sit here and type my response. I'm already disappointed about certain promises that MSC has failed on regarding the amenities in our inside YC cabin with only 1 chair and not having marble in the bathroom, even though the HC YIN has it, which makes zero sense. And now their very gregarious Captain whom we have gotten to know through his "MSC you soon" tagline is leaving the ship on January 27 just as we embark. All of this is making me simmer and I am sure that the drinks and the grilled lobster and giant prawns at lunchtime will make me happy. But, if I see what you said happened back in December, that simmering pot will explode and those members of the me generation that decided to break the rules will feel the full force of the extroverted side of my personality. :mad: