huskerdan25 Posted January 18, 2018 #126 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Doesn't anyone else who has cruised for a while find that the new generation of mass market cruise ships--like Royal and Regal, both of which I have sailed on, are just too crowded? I've started doing more land based vacations because of this. We were on the Regal in Jan 2017 for 2 weeks and we never felt like the ship was too crowded. At certain times and in certain locations, yes (the Princess theatre before a performance) but in general, it never felt crowded. It has been our opinion that the design of the newer ships has made for a less crowded feel, particularly in the Horizon Court were we felt the layout was the best of any ship we have been on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dckmusic Posted January 18, 2018 #127 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The whole premise of this is that Princess should conform to what others are doing to be "edgy" or "game changing." Seems actually counter-intuitive to copy what others are doing to be game changing. The bottom line is, there is a variety from many different cruise lines - pick what you like and go on that cruise line. Bellyaching about a particular cruise line not being as good as another one is silly. If you like the other cruise line better, sail on it. Lots of us prefer Princess for what it is - a more traditional cruise experience that doesn't feel like a theme park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerdan25 Posted January 18, 2018 #128 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The whole premise of this is that Princess should conform to what others are doing to be "edgy" or "game changing." Seems actually counter-intuitive to copy what others are doing to be game changing. The bottom line is, there is a variety from many different cruise lines - pick what you like and go on that cruise line. Bellyaching about a particular cruise line not being as good as another one is silly. If you like the other cruise line better, sail on it. Lots of us prefer Princess for what it is - a more traditional cruise experience that doesn't feel like a theme park. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruisesoon Posted January 18, 2018 Author #129 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I;m thinking the only thing Princess did that to them was game changing was the Sky Walk which didn't even make it to the new Sky Princess. That was probably the edgiest thing they've done....wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susancruzs Posted January 18, 2018 #130 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Princess doesn't seem to need edgy, and as dckmusic said, plenty of choices out there, Princess doesn't to copy those choices. I could see if they had trouble filling their ships, maybe, but they don't. It is a matter of what the company finds is working, what their passengers seem to like. I've been cruising since 1982, mostly onboard for 3 to 4 week cruises and I certainly don't need edgy or some of the things other cruise lines have on their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted January 18, 2018 #131 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Princess doesn't seem to need edgy, and as dckmusic said, plenty of choices out there, Princess doesn't to copy those choices. I could see if they had trouble filling their ships, maybe, but they don't. It is a matter of what the company finds is working, what their passengers seem to like. I've been cruising since 1982, mostly onboard for 3 to 4 week cruises and I certainly don't need edgy or some of the things other cruise lines have on their ships. Judging by the daily e:mails we get with last minute discount pricing they are having difficulty. No one is asking for go-cart tracks and rock climbing walls just stop being so vanilla and show a little vision. Even the itineraries are getting boring. They used to be known for them, now they're blah with only the occasional stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruisesoon Posted January 18, 2018 Author #132 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Judging by the daily e:mails we get with last minute discount pricing they are having difficulty. No one is asking for go-cart tracks and rock climbing walls just stop being so vanilla and show a little vision. Even the itineraries are getting boring. They used to be known for them, now they're blah with only the occasional stand out. Going to Alaska again this summer and no didn't even look at Princess why because Bliss with some 20 restaurants and 20 bars with an observation lounge to boot sounds more intriguing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayliang Posted January 18, 2018 #133 Share Posted January 18, 2018 as long as Princess continue to have the better itineraries and bang for the buck in that regard, that what brings me back. But I do agree that Princess cruises really started to feel old and slow, though I guess that can be relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerdan25 Posted January 18, 2018 #134 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Going to Alaska again this summer and no didn't even look at Princess why because Bliss with some 20 restaurants and 20 bars with an observation lounge to boot sounds more intriguing.... Good for you. If that is what you are wanting, go for it. I would never consider cruising on NCL but that is my choice. I find the ships with Princess are just fine and meet what we want when we cruise. Don't need bling or gazillion restaurants or bars to be happy. If I want a theme park atmosphere, will go to a theme park. When I cruise, I want good service and relaxation. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susancruzs Posted January 18, 2018 #135 Share Posted January 18, 2018 My first 4 cruises were with NCL, way back when, then I found Princess and Royal Caribbean. I went back to NCL once in the 90s, didn't like it. Traveling alone, I want set dining, their dining plan wouldn't work for me. I have a glass or 2 of wine every day, maybe a margarita, don't need 20 bars, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted January 18, 2018 #136 Share Posted January 18, 2018 A 'game changer' for Princess would be replacing some of the pool loungers with pool chairs/recliners that make it easier for their aging demographic they cater to , to get in and out of easier...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dns65 Posted January 19, 2018 #137 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm 57yrs old and have been listing to my 85yr old parents music on cruise ships for years. When do I get my turn? You don't. As someone pointed out earlier, music peaked with Puff the Magic Dragon and it's all been downhill ever since so no need for this new-fangled music the hippies are listening to these days. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted January 19, 2018 #138 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The whole premise of this is that Princess should conform to what others are doing to be "edgy" or "game changing." From my viewpoint Princess has taken a cruise experience that was unique and is trying to make it generic to what others are doing. Examples: a) Princess was unique in allowing you to book shore excursions before a cruise and pay for them at the end of the cruise. Others made you pay when booking. Princess decided to join them. b) Princess had an essentially classless experience no matter what type or price cabin you booked. Other cruise lines had special dining rooms exclusively for higher paying passengers. Princess introduced club class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted January 19, 2018 #139 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Even the itineraries are getting boring. They used to be known for them, now they're blah with only the occasional stand out. One reason is the elimination of all but one ship that carried less than 1500 passengers. The smaller ships could go to ports that the larger ships cannot (up the Amazon river, for example). And sending some of the larger ships to some ports can overwhelm the facilities and tour vendors available (Falkland Islands and Tahiti for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted January 19, 2018 #140 Share Posted January 19, 2018 From what I can see the Celebrity Edge seems to be adding more pay for venues and areas that only suite guests have access to. I hope Princess doesn't go in this direction. Those of us who have been complaining about the smaller balconies on the Royal Class ships should be thankful that they don't have the infinite veranda which is basically a big window that opens with no balcony. Not quite. The "infinite veranda" has a real balcony. The "big window" is actually in two parts and the top part is lowered at the touch of a button so it functions as a traditional balcony. When the top part is up, the balcony space becomes part of the cabin space itself so you can utilize that space at times you do not want to be "out" on the balcony such as in inclement weather. see the video at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globehoppers Posted January 19, 2018 #141 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Not quite. The "infinite veranda" has a real balcony. The "big window" is actually in two parts and the top part is lowered at the touch of a button so it functions as a traditional balcony. When the top part is up, the balcony space becomes part of the cabin space itself so you can utilize that space at times you do not want to be "out" on the balcony such as in inclement weather. see the video at Several European river cruise ships have the same or similar "infinite" veranda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizSydney Posted January 19, 2018 #142 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The whole premise of this is that Princess should conform to what others are doing to be "edgy" or "game changing." Seems actually counter-intuitive to copy what others are doing to be game changing. The bottom line is, there is a variety from many different cruise lines - pick what you like and go on that cruise line. Bellyaching about a particular cruise line not being as good as another one is silly. If you like the other cruise line better, sail on it. Lots of us prefer Princess for what it is - a more traditional cruise experience that doesn't feel like a theme park. Exactly. I don't want to go on a cruise and be surrounded by kids or feel like I'm at a theme park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted January 19, 2018 #143 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Not quite. The "infinite veranda" has a real balcony. The "big window" is actually in two parts and the top part is lowered at the touch of a button so it functions as a traditional balcony. When the top part is up, the balcony space becomes part of the cabin space itself so you can utilize that space at times you do not want to be "out" on the balcony such as in inclement weather. see the video at That's the video that I was referring to. To me it's not the same as a balcony. At best it's a sunroom that can be partitioned off from the rest of the room. I'm short so I would probably be looking through the lower glass which will probably be covered with salt. I would rather have the small balcony on the Royal class ships or an ocean view on the Grand class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted January 19, 2018 #144 Share Posted January 19, 2018 From my viewpoint Princess has taken a cruise experience that was unique and is trying to make it generic to what others are doing. Examples: a) Princess was unique in allowing you to book shore excursions before a cruise and pay for them at the end of the cruise. Others made you pay when booking. Princess decided to join them. b) Princess had an essentially classless experience no matter what type or price cabin you booked. Other cruise lines had special dining rooms exclusively for higher paying passengers. Princess introduced club class. Other lines offered a drink package and now Princess has a drink package and have set limits to how many cocktails you can have. Like on other lines they created the Piazza which has become a source of entertainment. Like on other lines they created more pay for eating venues by eliminating included in the price venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted January 19, 2018 #145 Share Posted January 19, 2018 You don't. As someone pointed out earlier, music peaked with Puff the Magic Dragon and it's all been downhill ever since so no need for this new-fangled music the hippies are listening to these days. :D Instead of those lame 70's nights maybe they could have a Woodstock theme night. That would certainly be on the edge. The Glenn Miller groupies would probably pop A string of pearls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughing husky Posted January 20, 2018 #146 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Do wish they would put USB ports in the new ships...several.....and redo the old ones so we can plug in and charge....One more thing to carry...:( and almost eveyone uses USB's these days...old or young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobby_The_Ship_Elf Posted January 20, 2018 #147 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Do wish they would put USB ports in the new ships...several.....and redo the old ones so we can plug in and charge....One more thing to carry...:( and almost eveyone uses USB's these days...old or young. You should be afforded Premium Status on every cruise line ...... regardless of how you spell * wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobby_The_Ship_Elf Posted January 20, 2018 #148 Share Posted January 20, 2018 A 'game changer' for Princess would be replacing some of the pool loungers with pool chairs/recliners that make it easier for their aging demographic they cater to , to get in and out of easier...;) Fully agree, my DW has mobility issues that means getting into the loungers provides her with a severe challenge. Getting out - well lets just say it most un-lady like. Also the 'luxury' loungers in The Sanctuary are no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted January 20, 2018 #149 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Do wish they would put USB ports in the new ships...several.....and redo the old ones so we can plug in and charge....One more thing to carry...:( and almost eveyone uses USB's these days...old or young. Actually the Majestic does have USB ports in the lamps. I think they are gradually bringing this feature to the older ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyc58 Posted January 21, 2018 #150 Share Posted January 21, 2018 With an aging demographic I’m surprised they aren’t doing more to make pretty much all cabins more wheelchair friendly, either wider doors or a corale (probably near the elevators) to park and charge. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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