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2 hours ago, Boxersma said:

Today is the 80 days out mark, and I received the offer to bid on a mini-suite and a balcony for Oct. 24 cruise on the Jade.  When I do a mock booking there are 24 mini-suites available to be booked but only 2 balconies. I made a "fair" bid on the mini suite and a "good" bid on the balcony... now the status for the mini-suite says "pending" and does not have the option to modify or cancel but my status for the balcony will allow me to modify or cancel, is this normal?

 

I have bids on a different cruise for both a balcony and a mini-suite; both say pending- but both allow me to modify. 

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2 hours ago, Boxersma said:

Today is the 80 days out mark, and I received the offer to bid on a mini-suite and a balcony for Oct. 24 cruise on the Jade.  When I do a mock booking there are 24 mini-suites available to be booked but only 2 balconies. I made a "fair" bid on the mini suite and a "good" bid on the balcony... now the status for the mini-suite says "pending" and does not have the option to modify or cancel but my status for the balcony will allow me to modify or cancel, is this normal?

Sound like a computer glitch to me, penning is how it will look for the next few weeks/months and you can modify/cancel when in pending status.  I would clear my computer cookies, browsing history, and ssl catch, reboot my computer, click on the link again and I bet they will both be in pending status. If not give it a day or so before calling ncl, their computer programs have lots of glitches.  When they are getting ready to award bids, if your lucky enough to win, it will say, processing on the one awarded and the other pending bid will go to expired. Good luck and remember patience is the name of the game, although sounds like your ship is pretty full already so probably not many upgrades will happen 

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On ‎7‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 3:04 PM, JamieLogical said:

 

Yes. It's highly unlikely bids have been processed already, so bidding should still be open. Bids usually aren't processed until, at minimum, one week prior to sailing and sometimes they actually cut the 48 hours out pretty close. My bid on my last cruise was processed about 50 hours prior to sailing?

Have you or anyone else on this tread ever won a bid a couple of days before the cruise and not know it until arriving at the port? I'm placing a bid on a TA and will be away from home and my computer 2 day's prior to the cruise? So I have to wonder - what if?  I may not be able to print a new e-doc of luggage tags. 

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21 hours ago, Shidah said:

Yeah, the price drops on the Escape are insane.  Seems like NCL is reducing the price to sell the Haven rather than go the upgrade route.  Maybe too many people complaining about others bragging in the area that they got their room for a lot less?  I’m just theorizing and have no idea if this is the case, but the prices are below what people’s bids were at.  I could have upgraded for less than my current bid, but then realized I really wanted to keep the room I had and withdrew my bid.

 

I was watching the prices drop which is why I jumped on calling.  Glad I did cause it looks like not many got bids into Haven

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17 hours ago, drvmywifecrzy said:

 

I was watching the prices drop which is why I jumped on calling.  Glad I did cause it looks like not many got bids into Haven

I just spoke with my guy from NCL and the 8/18 Escape is fully sold out which is why it is no longer listed on the website.  Looks like we both had good timing!

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It's weird that they allow prices to drop below what someone's bid is without accepting that bid first. I had a small upgrade bid of $160 ($80pp) to go from balcony to mini-suite. Today the price dropped so that it only cost me $60 ($30 pp) directly and canceled my upgrade bid.  I guess they didn't want the extra $100 I was willing to pay.

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22 minutes ago, gatorclaws said:

It's weird that they allow prices to drop below what someone's bid is without accepting that bid first. I had a small upgrade bid of $160 ($80pp) to go from balcony to mini-suite. Today the price dropped so that it only cost me $60 ($30 pp) directly and canceled my upgrade bid.  I guess they didn't want the extra $100 I was willing to pay.

Did you call to see if a direct upgrade was available?  I think this whole thread is flawed because it doesn't take into account original booking price.  I could be wrong but I am guessing the pricing model is to make the most amount of revenue on a given cabin.  If I paid 4k for a balcony cabin and then bid 250 on an upgrade to bring me to 4500, I would guess that bid would be taken before a bid of 500 with an original booking price of 3250.

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58 minutes ago, lfreda said:

Did you call to see if a direct upgrade was available?  I think this whole thread is flawed because it doesn't take into account original booking price.  I could be wrong but I am guessing the pricing model is to make the most amount of revenue on a given cabin.  If I paid 4k for a balcony cabin and then bid 250 on an upgrade to bring me to 4500, I would guess that bid would be taken before a bid of 500 with an original booking price of 3250.

 

I did a mock booking through NCL and noticed the total price was only $60 more than my current total, so I called my TA and they processed the upgrade for $60.

 

I had bid $160 more through the upgrade program but I don't think those aren't being processed yet for my sailing (in 1 month)

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21 hours ago, lfreda said:

Did you call to see if a direct upgrade was available?  I think this whole thread is flawed because it doesn't take into account original booking price.  I could be wrong but I am guessing the pricing model is to make the most amount of revenue on a given cabin.  If I paid 4k for a balcony cabin and then bid 250 on an upgrade to bring me to 4500, I would guess that bid would be taken before a bid of 500 with an original booking price of 3250.

 

We have definitely discussed this before. It makes no business sense for NCL to factor in original price paid. They already have that money. All that matters now is how much MORE money they can get. If you paid more originally and bid $250 and someone who paid less bids $500, taking the higher bid nets NCL the most money. Why would they pass up the extra $250?

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26 minutes ago, JamieLogical said:

 

We have definitely discussed this before. It makes no business sense for NCL to factor in original price paid. They already have that money. All that matters now is how much MORE money they can get. If you paid more originally and bid $250 and someone who paid less bids $500, taking the higher bid nets NCL the most money. Why would they pass up the extra $250?

I respectfully disagree.  Cruise pricing models revolve around making the most money per cabin, not making the most money on any one individual.  NCL will take the most money they can get for an H9, for example, to free up a spa balcony or balcony, and then they will take the most money they can get for the vacant cabin that is left by the upgrade.  The one way that I agree with you is in situations where there is high unsold inventory and they are in a position where they need to take whatever they can get.  My point is that this thread discusses nothing but bid offer and if it was accepted and declined but fails to take into account inventory and base fare.

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1 hour ago, JamieLogical said:

 

We have definitely discussed this before. It makes no business sense for NCL to factor in original price paid. They already have that money. All that matters now is how much MORE money they can get. If you paid more originally and bid $250 and someone who paid less bids $500, taking the higher bid nets NCL the most money. Why would they pass up the extra $250?

Where have you been the last month? It's like you fell off the face of the Earth ...... 

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30 minutes ago, tallnthensome said:

Where have you been the last month? It's like you fell off the face of the Earth ...... 

 

I did! Kind of. I had two weeks of conferences for work and then got horribly sick, so I have been out of commission for three weeks. Plus, before that we purchased a new home so I was working on packing/planning around that, which is still ongoing until our actual move later this month.

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1 hour ago, lfreda said:

I respectfully disagree.  Cruise pricing models revolve around making the most money per cabin, not making the most money on any one individual.  NCL will take the most money they can get for an H9, for example, to free up a spa balcony or balcony, and then they will take the most money they can get for the vacant cabin that is left by the upgrade.  The one way that I agree with you is in situations where there is high unsold inventory and they are in a position where they need to take whatever they can get.  My point is that this thread discusses nothing but bid offer and if it was accepted and declined but fails to take into account inventory and base fare.

 

Certainly the whole "chain" of upgrades is really what NCL is going to look at. But still it will be the total net of NEW money NCL can get for upgrades. The initial amounts paid by anyone are irrelevant past final payment. Like I said, NCL has that money in hand already. They are clearly going to process upgrades in such a way as nets them the most ADDITIONAL money.

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12 minutes ago, JamieLogical said:

 

I did! Kind of. I had two weeks of conferences for work and then got horribly sick, so I have been out of commission for three weeks. Plus, before that we purchased a new home so I was working on packing/planning around that, which is still ongoing until our actual move later this month.

Sounds like some ups and downs and a whole lot going on. Well, welcome back anyhow.  🙂

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10 minutes ago, JamieLogical said:

 

Certainly the whole "chain" of upgrades is really what NCL is going to look at. But still it will be the total net of NEW money NCL can get for upgrades. The initial amounts paid by anyone are irrelevant past final payment. Like I said, NCL has that money in hand already. They are clearly going to process upgrades in such a way as nets them the most ADDITIONAL money.

Agree with you, as always 100 percent, welcome back 

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1 hour ago, lfreda said:

I respectfully disagree.  Cruise pricing models revolve around making the most money per cabin, not making the most money on any one individual.  NCL will take the most money they can get for an H9, for example, to free up a spa balcony or balcony, and then they will take the most money they can get for the vacant cabin that is left by the upgrade.  The one way that I agree with you is in situations where there is high unsold inventory and they are in a position where they need to take whatever they can get.  My point is that this thread discusses nothing but bid offer and if it was accepted and declined but fails to take into account inventory and base fare.

Casino comps get upgraded all the time. I have won every bid I have done for bids in the poor range. 

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Western Caribbean: 8/18/19

Original Booking: Spa Mini Suite

Cost: $4,020.00 (Should have been $3,600.00 but gratuities with perks and "airfare taxes" brought it up).

Perks: Wifi, Cruise Credit, Drink Promo, 3 Dinners & Airfare

 

Booked late received offer to bid a day after reservation made.

Bids: Haven Spa (H9): $750 (minimum $500.00), Haven Balcony Penthouse (H5): $500(Minimum), Haven 2 Family Villa (H4): $800.00 (minimum $750.00).

 

Won 2 Family Villa on 8/5/19. All perks carried over including airfare. Lost Spa access (as expected, now an additional $400.00 charge).

 

Not sure I made out in deal. Booked five weeks prior to sailing. Haven two family Villa (H4) $3349.00 at the time but dropped to $3099 when bids were accepted.

 

Was not informed by NCL until Tuesday 8/6/2019. Accidently found out had winning bid when I called in to purchase upgrade from spa mini-suite to haven spa suite. (The direct purchase upgrade was $800.00/pp on 8/6/2019 and bid was already at $750.00). 

 

FYI: Prices on all Haven Suites dropped about $250 /pp/week in the two weeks prior to winning bid. (Some rooms a bit more, some a bit less. Best guess availability drove amount of drop).

 

It seems that if you are waiting for bids to be accepted/rejected they are processed first Monday two weeks from cruise date. (assuming they don't have a bid that they "just can't say NO to".)

 

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15 hours ago, Tinyturtle22 said:

Casino comps get upgraded all the time. I have won every bid I have done for bids in the poor range. 

I was comped through CAS an inside room on the Star to mexico last year. Bid on a Balcony for $250PP. I did not get it. It was in march. I believe this was high Fair to Good range for the offer.  

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15 hours ago, JamieLogical said:

 

Certainly the whole "chain" of upgrades is really what NCL is going to look at. But still it will be the total net of NEW money NCL can get for upgrades. The initial amounts paid by anyone are irrelevant past final payment. Like I said, NCL has that money in hand already. They are clearly going to process upgrades in such a way as nets them the most ADDITIONAL money.

I sadly agree with your logical approach. Your name suits you. 

You're a bit on a guru around here and I'm new to the boards so I figured I might ask you. 

I have a comped inside room on the escape to Bermuda on 9-1 bidding on a balcony. Current bid is in the mid good range at $280pp. Max is $400.   Ship looks almost completely sold out when I do a mock booking. Another factor is I was told that this particular cruise is the annual CAS golf cruise . Do you think I should up my Bid? 

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