Prepaid tips vs cash

[LMaxwell]

On 2/23/2019 at 2:42 PM, not-enough-cruising said:

By posting a link to the above website you have shot all chances you had at credibility. 

 

Waiting for anyone here to disprove Jim Walker.  You might not like him, but disliking someone doesn't mean they are wrong or inaccurate.  

[Thorben-Hendrik]

This whole tipping thing is so annoying! 🙄👎

[Raysfun]

On 2/21/2019 at 9:09 AM, Cruiselover0426 said:

At the buffet you serve yourself.  That is one of my things about the auto tipping.  I get my own food, I get my own drinks, I'm not tipping anyone for that.  Why should I?  I'm not on the ship to pay the salaries of the people hired to prepare the food and maintain the buffet.  Tips are for services rendered to me.  That is my opinion.

The waiters still have to bus the tables. I'm sure you aren't going to take your dirty dishes to the kitchen and clean your table. There are a lot of jobs in WJ that you don't see. Somebody has to keep the food in the buffet filled.

[Desert Cruizers]

When it comes to these hard working crew members regardless if they don't personally serve me, they are there earning a living and I will be happy to pay my gratuities. 

[Thorben-Hendrik]

22 minutes ago, Desert Cruizers said:

hard working

Define hard working! 🤔

 

Edited February 26, 2019 by Thorben-Hendrik

[Desert Cruizers]

Hard working is self explanatory in the crews case, long hours 

[Thorben-Hendrik]

18 minutes ago, Desert Cruizers said:

Hard working is self explanatory in the crews case, long hours 

But so are most people I know! 🤔😱

[QueenofKrakatoa]

3 hours ago, Thorben-Hendrik said:

But so are most people I know! 🤔😱

And? Hard working people deserve to be paid for services rendered. Whether or not you know them personally is inconsequential.

[Thorben-Hendrik]

52 minutes ago, QueenofKrakatoa said:

And? Hard working people deserve to be paid for services rendered. Whether or not you know them personally is inconsequential.

Well payment discussions are between employer and employees! 👍💵

I will stay out of that! 👌

[springfire]

15 hours ago, Raysfun said:

The waiters still have to bus the tables. I'm sure you aren't going to take your dirty dishes to the kitchen and clean your table. There are a lot of jobs in WJ that you don't see. Somebody has to keep the food in the buffet filled.

It is silly to think we should have to tip someone who fills the food in the buffet or the other jobs in WJ that we don't see.

[not-enough-cruising]

17 hours ago, LMaxwell said:

 

Waiting for anyone here to disprove Jim Walker.  You might not like him, but disliking someone doesn't mean they are wrong or inaccurate.  

Anyone in his line of work, and with his reputation; can NOT be considered objective or reliable. 

[mayleeman]

"His line of work"?

 

Careful, there...

[Raysfun]

6 hours ago, springfire said:

It is silly to think we should have to tip someone who fills the food in the buffet or the other jobs in WJ that we don't see.

It's the same as a waiter bringing the food to your table. You're not going into the kitchen to get the food. Most people I know tip something even at a buffet. 

[Thorben-Hendrik]

3 hours ago, Raysfun said:

Most people I know tip something even at a buffet.  

Most people I know do not tip at all! 👍😱

[ldubs]

4 hours ago, Raysfun said:

It's the same as a waiter bringing the food to your table. You're not going into the kitchen to get the food. Most people I know tip something even at a buffet. 

 

The servers are behind the line.  How do they even do that?  

 

[QueenofKrakatoa]

22 minutes ago, ldubs said:

 

The servers are behind the line.  How do they even do that?  

 

With prepaid gratuities. 

[Clarea]

7 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

The servers are behind the line.  How do they even do that?  

 

 

I've seen people leave a tip on their WJ table.

[Thorben-Hendrik]

1 hour ago, Host Clarea said:

 

I've seen people leave a tip on their WJ table.

If I clean that table.... do I get to keep that tip? 🤔

[Cruiselover0426]

On 2/25/2019 at 9:39 PM, Raysfun said:

The waiters still have to bus the tables. I'm sure you aren't going to take your dirty dishes to the kitchen and clean your table. There are a lot of jobs in WJ that you don't see. Somebody has to keep the food in the buffet filled.

There are lots of jobs in my local restaurant that I don't see.  I do not tip those people.  Do you tip the sous chef in your local restaurant, how about the person that cleans the place?  This is ridiculous and out of hand.  People can and will handle tipping in their own way.  It is an optional, personal thing and nobody has a right to judge.  This is nuts!

[Cruiselover0426]

On 2/26/2019 at 12:31 AM, Desert Cruizers said:

Hard working is self explanatory in the crews case, long hours 

They sign a contract and choose to work those hours.  How is it the passenger's responsibility to make that better?  It just doesn't make any sense.  I go on a cruise for a vacation.  I do not go on a cruise to feel sorry for the workers and pay their salaries. 

[mjkacmom]

16 minutes ago, Cruiselover0426 said:

They sign a contract and choose to work those hours.  How is it the passenger's responsibility to make that better?  It just doesn't make any sense.  I go on a cruise for a vacation.  I do not go on a cruise to feel sorry for the workers and pay their salaries. 

When servers accept jobs in restaurants, they accept the super low wages knowing its a tipped position. Sure, there are jerks out their who don’t tip enough, but most are fair and generous. They don’t expect to be paid $2.13 an hour, otherwise, no on3 would take the job.

[mjkacmom]

21 minutes ago, Cruiselover0426 said:

There are lots of jobs in my local restaurant that I don't see.  I do not tip those people.  Do you tip the sous chef in your local restaurant, how about the person that cleans the place?  This is ridiculous and out of hand.  People can and will handle tipping in their own way.  It is an optional, personal thing and nobody has a right to judge.  This is nuts!

But they get paid more. The pay structure on the mainstream cruise lines are pretty much all the same, if a line upped their prices and added the DSC to the fare, it would appear to be more expensive. If you don’t like the pay structure, cruise a line that includes it in the fare, simple.

[Cruiselover0426]

3 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

When servers accept jobs in restaurants, they accept the super low wages knowing its a tipped position. Sure, there are jerks out their who don’t tip enough, but most are fair and generous. They don’t expect to be paid $2.13 an hour, otherwise, no on3 would take the job.

What?  Servers should be tipped.  People preparing the food, putting it on the buffet line, cleaning the floors etc. should not.  I don't get what you are getting at here.  

[mjkacmom]

4 minutes ago, Cruiselover0426 said:

What?  Servers should be tipped.  People preparing the food, putting it on the buffet line, cleaning the floors etc. should not.  I don't get what you are getting at here.  

The cruise lines have contracts with employees. If they don’t collect enough to pay them, they have to increase prices. Who cares if they generate that money through DSC or the cost of the cruise? Just pay your fair share, or else prices will increase.

[springfire]

8 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

But they get paid more. The pay structure on the mainstream cruise lines are pretty much all the same, if a line upped their prices and added the DSC to the fare, it would appear to be more expensive. If you don’t like the pay structure, cruise a line that includes it in the fare, simple.

We don't prepay tips or allow auto tips to be placed on our account.   We tip in cash.  Royal Caribbean allows us this option and this is well within their rules.   We have choices on how we tip, so tip the way you like and enjoy your cruise.