clskinsfan Posted October 21, 2022 #2101 Share Posted October 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, Tuvok44 said: The amount of whiners🤢 Don't go on it, and don't comment about it. Jeez, if it ain't for you than great! Let others be excited🤐 I am gonna comment with this right here: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted October 21, 2022 #2102 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcgRsW5ydQ and this Carnival fanboy is impressed. I'm seriously tempted to jump on a plane to Florida for this and it's something I said I never do lol. True game changer. Love the design. 😍🤩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolicromaSol Posted October 21, 2022 #2103 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I'm just imagining what this thing is like on choppy waters. Now the kids can ride the waves, 8 stories up, in a glass pool.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbschultz Posted October 21, 2022 #2104 Share Posted October 21, 2022 So we're all in agreement that "The Hideaway" will be a paid area of the ship right? Similar to how Norwegian does the Vibe Beach Club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUZorba Posted October 21, 2022 #2105 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, CroNich said: Some things I like about the Icon (and my feelings are overwhelmingly positive): - The new neighbourhood layout. I think the design will really spread out the crowds, particularly on sea days, which hopefully means finding lounges/spots in pools will hopefully be a lot easier. - The Waterpark - wow, this is by far the most impressive waterpark at sea, and I do love waterslides so I can see myself making a lot of use of these. - The Hideaway pool. It looks incredible, a very instagram worthy shot, and a decent sized pool as well. - Surfside is definitely an improvement compared to the boardwalk. Hopefully that keeps most of the kids away from the top pool deck. 🤪 - The amount of focus on pools/water. I feel like bigger cruise ships have been moving away from that in favour of other activities, however on a cruise in the carribean I want to be lounging by the pool, getting wet etc. - The Swim Up bar will be a treat Some things I'm not sure about: - I do love having an adults only outdoor deck, however I don't see why the pool couldn't be a little bit bigger and why there is only one hot hub - I was hoping the Aquatheatre would be able to transform in the day to be an adults only indoor pool. Seems like an oversight in the design. - While I love the additional sea views/glass in the promenade area, I don't understand why its being blocked by the Pearl, which at the moment just seems like a glorified staircase/art installation - No proper promenade deck that we've seen on the new Norwegian and Carnival ships. Some of the aft shots show a promenade, that looks like a track, like on Oasis class. When I saw the swim up bar, I just thought "Great, 8 seats that will have the same 8 people in them all day, and give people even more excuses to pee in the pool." Nothing against the concept, I have my doubts it'll be all that nice in reality. I am really looking forward to this, I'm not usually in the "gotta jump on the new ship" bandwagon, but in the fall of 2024 DD will be 8 and probably perfect for this ship. Also I saw the water park was going to be open 9 am to 10 pm everyday, and splash away from 8 to 7 pm everyday, so much better hours than they generally have. I too think they should've made the aquadome pool a adult's pool by day. Also wonder if the Hideaway will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted October 21, 2022 #2106 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, OSUZorba said: but in the fall of 2024 DD will be 8 and probably perfect for this ship. My daughter went on Empress when she was 8. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniMSCRoyal_85 Posted October 21, 2022 #2107 Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: There are 5 unnamed restaurants spaces https://www.instagram.com/p/Cj70uA7qYGy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 17 restaurante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough as Leather Posted October 21, 2022 #2108 Share Posted October 21, 2022 A nice shot of the funnels. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 21, 2022 #2109 Share Posted October 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tough as Leather said: A nice shot of the funnels. It's the first time I can recall a Royal Caribbean ship NOT having a white funnel. They are certainly doing some interesting new things with Icon's livery. I wonder if some of these colorful changes will make their way to other ships in the RCI fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OACAggie Posted October 21, 2022 #2110 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Tough as Leather said: A nice shot of the funnels. Those are some nice funnels😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunagoras Posted October 21, 2022 #2111 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tuvok44 said: The amount of whiners🤢 Don't go on it, and don't comment about it. Jeez, if it ain't for you than great! Let others be excited🤐 Actually; have you notice that we're at Cruise Critic, not Cruise Cheerleading?... Meanwhile; let me to try to explain why I personally don't like, nor this design, nor at a larger scale the way mainstream cruise industry is heading right now. Permit me to do so from both my formerly market analyst point of view, and my reasonably regular cruise career for some nearly 20 years back to now: I have nothing, against such a "no frills", pay as you go, mostly guaranteed cabins, kid friendly, family oriented cruise experience for everyone. Icon fills perfectly that niche and will to be a huge success into it, no doubts. No surprise; some posts above this one, someone describing himself as a Carnival regular, wished to jump ship from Carnival to Icon!... Carnival "grown-ups" on the 25-45 years range are the main client source that is moving those cruise lines "fat cats" these days. Even X is following suit on their Edge class to an extent. What me thinks they're forgetting is that all years there is a huge amount of those turning 46, whose kids are now on University, whose lives have come to another level, and whom will no longer to support those family like activities. More: I understand they want the more occasional cruisers, because those will pay more upfront than previous passengers... But: The school year has just few breaks. The youth parties have their limited time window. Parents are not either way retirees or people whose lives permit a more flexible time arrangements. Whom will to fill those ships out of school holiday times? Ah, yeah!... The all times regulars, 45-65 years old couples whom pay less upfront, but far more on drinks, shore ex, casinos, specialty dining, professional photos, to say the least, making even a far larger profit than those summer newcomers, because full cost considered will to be higher!... With ships that aren't that appealing to that 45-65 growing group, I wonder what will one day to be the outcome in a not so long distance time. To just speak about Royal and letting alone the rest of the market; some 10++ Oasis/Icon ships following suit on the younger crowd plus some 4+ X Edge and above classes to the "upper Royal" instead of "Viking lite" cruisers; hard discounts on lower season with hiking prices at premium ones will to be the norm... Or make the older of those ships to be "adult" retrofitted or simply let them to face the scrapper. No alternatives! I can hardly to call Viking as a luxury line. Nor lite luxury if one asks me. They're classic cruise line done right and they're a success, perhaps somewhat overpriced for the real product! They'd to be the same success with a 150k GT cruise chip priced accordingly if they so wanted. They don't! And they don't need to think about that either! If I wanted to go on a Viking cruise, I couldn't do so because they don't sell for Portugal! They only sell to the English speaking world!... "Brand new" Azamara will likely to follow the same path. Explora Journeys by MSC seems to be gaining some traction as well... But, realistically, there is part of a generation, old enough to call it a night on the family activities, but young enough to retire from the tourism industry that sooner rather than later will face 2 difficult choices: Cruise less on an upmarket line if they can, or simply to shop holidays elsewhere, because those upmarket vessels are so limited on their offering numbers! I'm sad, I'm part of that large group. The pandemic made me to stay some 3 years out of cruising. Fortunately; we have the older ships, more or less like we ever knew them for quite a while, but in 5-10 years they'll be gone, or simply family style retrofitted! And we will to be "out"!... Permit me to go somewhat off RCI focused topic, but hey: At least NCL with Prima and from the photos that are starting to pop up from World Europa, MSC are sort of understanding the problem and providing sort of consensual compromising solutions at least for now. Personally; in a nutshell: Will I ever sail the Icon? I wouldn't say never, but really not at school breaks! Have a nice day!... Edited October 21, 2022 by Nunagoras 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 21, 2022 #2112 Share Posted October 21, 2022 “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time”. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 21, 2022 #2113 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, PolicromaSol said: I'm just imagining what this thing is like on choppy waters. Now the kids can ride the waves, 8 stories up, in a glass pool.🤣 Not at all, you won't even feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 21, 2022 #2114 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, rbschultz said: So we're all in agreement that "The Hideaway" will be a paid area of the ship right? Similar to how Norwegian does the Vibe Beach Club... Matt said it would not be a paid venue on his blog and he oughta know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 21, 2022 #2115 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nunagoras said: I'm sad, I'm part of that large group. You don't have to be. I'm 72yrs young and I love everything about her. I intend to dangle from the anchor and ride every slide I can haul my big azz up to! I will love sitting at the bar in the swim up pool! Love looking at the aft wake from the Hideaway! Or sit in my Panoramic View cabin and just watch Big Blue without the wind and humidity! I love the placement of the mostly kiddy corner in Boardwalk so I don't ever have to go there unless I want to. I love the new Aquatheater concept because its covered from the weather, shows will not have to be cancelled and in the daytime whilst the kiddies are in Boardwalk, I can be in here! I love that they still have an all adults pool topside...still have a Diamond lounge, still have Central Park with all the birds and trees whilst listening to a string ensemble, and I still get to watch my fave ice shows! And I'm so excited to experience the new propulsion system and happy they have utilized new technology to get pristine water out of sewage! Woohoo! Can't wait to hear what kind of new and innovative entertainment will be added! It's obvious to me they are trying to accommodate every demographic. You can chill out and move slow in plenty of spots on this ship and be perfectly happy if you are no longer active. I'm thrilled with it! Can't wait till Monday evening to really explore all my options! Kudos to some very inventive designers RCCL! The truly "ship is the destination" ! 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrapps Posted October 21, 2022 #2116 Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nunagoras said: Actually; have you notice that we're at Cruise Critic, not Cruise Cheerleading?... Meanwhile; let me to try to explain why I personally don't like, nor this design, nor at a larger scale the way mainstream cruise industry is heading right now. Permit me to do so from both my formerly market analyst point of view, and my reasonably regular cruise career for some nearly 20 years back to now: I have nothing, against such a "no frills", pay as you go, mostly guaranteed cabins, kid friendly, family oriented cruise experience for everyone. Icon fills perfectly that niche and will to be a huge success into it, no doubts. No surprise; some posts above this one, someone describing himself as a Carnival regular, wished to jump ship from Carnival to Icon!... Carnival "grown-ups" on the 25-45 years range are the main client source that is moving those cruise lines "fat cats" these days. Even X is following suit on their Edge class to an extent. What me thinks they're forgetting is that all years there is a huge amount of those turning 46, whose kids are now on University, whose lives have come to another level, and whom will no longer to support those family like activities. More: I understand they want the more occasional cruisers, because those will pay more upfront than previous passengers... But: The school year has just few breaks. The youth parties have their limited time window. Parents are not either way retirees or people whose lives permit a more flexible time arrangements. Whom will to fill those ships out of school holiday times? Ah, yeah!... The all times regulars, 45-65 years old couples whom pay less upfront, but far more on drinks, shore ex, casinos, specialty dining, professional photos, to say the least, making even a far larger profit than those summer newcomers, because full cost considered will to be higher!... With ships that aren't that appealing to that 45-65 growing group, I wonder what will one day to be the outcome in a not so long distance time. To just speak about Royal and letting alone the rest of the market; some 10++ Oasis/Icon ships following suit on the younger crowd plus some 4+ X Edge and above classes to the "upper Royal" instead of "Viking lite" cruisers; hard discounts on lower season with hiking prices at premium ones will to be the norm... Or make the older of those ships to be "adult" retrofitted or simply let them to face the scrapper. No alternatives! I can hardly to call Viking as a luxury line. Nor lite luxury if one asks me. They're classic cruise line done right and they're a success, perhaps somewhat overpriced for the real product! They'd to be the same success with a 150k GT cruise chip priced accordingly if they so wanted. They don't! And they don't need to think about that either! If I wanted to go on a Viking cruise, I couldn't do so because they don't sell for Portugal! They only sell to the English speaking world!... "Brand new" Azamara will likely to follow the same path. Explora Journeys by MSC seems to be gaining some traction as well... But, realistically, there is part of a generation, old enough to call it a night on the family activities, but young enough to retire from the tourism industry that sooner rather than later will face 2 difficult choices: Cruise less on an upmarket line if they can, or simply to shop holidays elsewhere, because those upmarket vessels are so limited on their offering numbers! I'm sad, I'm part of that large group. The pandemic made me to stay some 3 years out of cruising. Fortunately; we have the older ships, more or less like we ever knew them for quite a while, but in 5-10 years they'll be gone, or simply family style retrofitted! And we will to be "out"!... Permit me to go somewhat off RCI focused topic, but hey: At least NCL with Prima and from the photos that are starting to pop up from World Europa, MSC are sort of understanding the problem and providing sort of consensual solutions at least for now. Personally; in a nutshell: Will I ever sail the Icon? I wouldn't say never, but really not at school breaks! Have a nice day!... While I personally love the family-forward activities and size/amenities of the Oasis class and now Icon class, I guess I can see your point. I for one am very much looking forward to sailing on Icon, but I can admit as we get older my wife and I are getting more refined in our cruising tastes. For the past 20 years it has been heavy Disney and Royal with the kids, who are now teens/pre-teens. We are in our 40s and continue sailing Disney and Royal as family vacations, but starting to look at Celebrity, NCL, MSC, and Virgin as potential adult-getaway trips. I can see once the kids are in college and we do more adult cruises than family cruises, we may prefer an experience where there are less families with young kids everywhere all the time. Of course, we really prefer larger ships so that limits us. Today we only do short 3-4 day cruises without the kids (hard to cruise even without them during school) and Royal is really the only line that has larger ships doing short cruises. We have zero desire to go on anything as small or old as Vision/Grandeur. To me, sailing on these mega family-designed ships in non-peak times when most kids are in school will suffice. But yes, I agree with a lot of what you said and hope that RCL sees that as the 25-35 crowd becomes a 45-65 crowd, they will want to maintain the "new high tech flashy" cruise experience without the in your face little kid splash park. Hopefully they have plans to add more larger ships to the Celebrity fleet in the future? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted October 21, 2022 #2117 Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Tuvok44 said: The amount of whiners🤢 Don't go on it, and don't comment about it. Jeez, if it ain't for you than great! Let others be excited🤐 You aren’t the only one allowed an opinions. Ever noticed the name of the site? Go refresh yourself on it. It’s perfectly fine for people to acknowledge they missed the mark on a lot of aspects and overhyped something. Nobody’s saying it’s a piece of junk, it’s just not what was expected. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annefran Posted October 21, 2022 #2118 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 3:45 PM, Burgta01 said: Awesome! Got it thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawk1 Posted October 21, 2022 #2119 Share Posted October 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Tuvok44 said: The amount of whiners🤢 Don't go on it, and don't comment about it. Jeez, if it ain't for you than great! Let others be excited🤐 You use only your third post ever to complain about free speech on a public forum? Guess you missed the fact it's called Cruise Critic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annefran Posted October 21, 2022 #2120 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It appears most of the suites will be forward or at least that's how it looks on the deck plans. I hope they release the legend for the cabins and we get to see prices etc. prior to booking Oct 24/25. Fingers crossed. It's so exciting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare joshsc Posted October 21, 2022 #2121 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 8:04 AM, Jumping Cruiser said: A glorified staircase by the looks of it 🙄. Surely there must be a surprise somewhere! There is a cafe and lounge behind, known as ‘Pearl Cafe’, which has views out to the sea. There are also windows at the top, looking down from Central Park. The only people whose glorified it are people online when it was spotted. All the people trying to guess what it was from a VR ride to .. who knows what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Newcruiser215 Posted October 21, 2022 #2122 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Here's an idea of pricing. Found this on a site I have used to book my RC cruises. This is on par with what I paid for my upcoming Wonder sailing. Edited October 21, 2022 by Newcruiser215 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted October 21, 2022 #2123 Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Newcruiser215 said: Here's an idea of pricing. Found this on a site I have used to book my RC cruises. That is the date they used when they did that middle of the night 'test'. Several people reported seeing it and some prices, for that one date. Some tried to book and it didn't work. Then it was quickly pulled from the site. So we'll see if this holds true, it probably will, but until they post the full, actual, bookable listings, we wont know for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 21, 2022 #2124 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, joshsc said: who knows what. I'll put my money on this! Edited October 21, 2022 by BecciBoo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Newcruiser215 Posted October 21, 2022 #2125 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, rockmom said: That is the date they used when they did that middle of the night 'test'. Several people reported seeing it and some prices, for that one date. Some tried to book and it didn't work. Then it was quickly pulled from the site. So we'll see if this holds true, it probably will, but until they post the full, actual, bookable listings, we wont know for sure. Ohhhh okay. Got it. I guess we'll see on Monday/Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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