dag144 Posted May 28, 2020 #1 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Princess has had some bad luck over the past several months, to say the least. But some of this bad luck management has brought on itself. Example - the Coral Princess last cruise. It was a bad idea to try to disembark people at a strange port, Buenos Aires or Rio, in the midst of a pandemic. Better solution would have been to get supplies and fuel, keep all guests on board, and then sail right back to the final port, Fort Lauderdale. As it turned out Princess' initial decision was a very bad solution and one that caused some to lose lives. Secondly, for the past months stretching back to 2019 before the pandemic it was very difficult to get a rep on the phone. People (including me) were held waiting a response for me an hour one time. There was no provision for a call back. Third the response to the cancellations has been a disaster even today more than two months after the initial announcement of cruise cancellations, March 11th. Paraphrasing the words of Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles, Jan, the Swartz, has Not been with us!!!!! DUMP HER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roberto256 Posted May 28, 2020 #2 Share Posted May 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, dag144 said: Princess has had some bad luck over the past several months, to say the least. But some of this bad luck management has brought on itself. Example - the Coral Princess last cruise. It was a bad idea to try to disembark people at a strange port, Buenos Aires or Rio, in the midst of a pandemic. What about the people on board who did not have visas to enter the united states? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted May 28, 2020 #3 Share Posted May 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, dag144 said: Princess has had some bad luck over the past several months, to say the least. But some of this bad luck management has brought on itself. Example - the Coral Princess last cruise. It was a bad idea to try to disembark people at a strange port, Buenos Aires or Rio, in the midst of a pandemic. Better solution would have been to get supplies and fuel, keep all guests on board, and then sail right back to the final port, Fort Lauderdale. As it turned out Princess' initial decision was a very bad solution and one that caused some to lose lives. Secondly, for the past months stretching back to 2019 before the pandemic it was very difficult to get a rep on the phone. People (including me) were held waiting a response for me an hour one time. There was no provision for a call back. Third the response to the cancellations has been a disaster even today more than two months after the initial announcement of cruise cancellations, March 11th. Paraphrasing the words of Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles, Jan, the Swartz, has Not been with us!!!!! DUMP HER. Admittedly, there have been some serious issues, mistakes and mis-steps of late. But I don't believe this is the time or place to drag anyone thru the mud and throw them under the bus. Have a good day! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOOTERNINJA Posted May 28, 2020 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, pms4104 said: Admittedly, there have been some serious issues, mistakes and mis-steps of late. But I don't believe this is the time or place to drag anyone thru the mud and throw them under the bus. Have a good day! Executives are paid well and they take the job knowing that ultimately they take responsibility for the decisions good and bad. If an executive does not want their name drug through the mud, they ought to consider a different position and pay level. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag144 Posted May 28, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I believe that the cruise on the Coral was sold with the only disembarkation port being Fort Lauderdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted May 28, 2020 #6 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, dag144 said: I believe that the cruise on the Coral was sold with the only disembarkation port being Fort Lauderdale. Well, which is it? You believe or you know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennybenny Posted May 28, 2020 #7 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Hindsight is 20/20Sent from my iPhone using Forums 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted May 29, 2020 #8 Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, dag144 said: Paraphrasing the words of Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles, Jan, the Swartz, has Not been with us!!!!! DUMP HER. The Schwartz had nothing to do with Blazing Saddles. The Schwartz was from Spaceballs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 29, 2020 #9 Share Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, dag144 said: I believe that the cruise on the Coral was sold with the only disembarkation port being Fort Lauderdale. first segment was Santiago to Buenos Aires next segment was Buenos Aires to Fort Lauderdale So Buenos Aires was not "a strange port." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknightsdespiser Posted May 29, 2020 #10 Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 hours ago, dag144 said: Princess has had some bad luck over the past several months, to say the least. But some of this bad luck management has brought on itself. Example - the Coral Princess last cruise. It was a bad idea to try to disembark people at a strange port, Buenos Aires or Rio, in the midst of a pandemic. Better solution would have been to get supplies and fuel, keep all guests on board, and then sail right back to the final port, Fort Lauderdale. As it turned out Princess' initial decision was a very bad solution and one that caused some to lose lives. Secondly, for the past months stretching back to 2019 before the pandemic it was very difficult to get a rep on the phone. People (including me) were held waiting a response for me an hour one time. There was no provision for a call back. Third the response to the cancellations has been a disaster even today more than two months after the initial announcement of cruise cancellations, March 11th. Paraphrasing the words of Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles, Jan, the Swartz, has Not been with us!!!!! DUMP HER. This is a typical response to lots of things going wrong at the moment, it wasn't Princess's fault or any of our various government's fault, it was China's fault and we must never forget this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaSeaRetreat Posted May 29, 2020 #11 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, dag144 said: Princess has had some bad luck over the past several months, to say the least. But some of this bad luck management has brought on itself. Example - the Coral Princess last cruise. It was a bad idea to try to disembark people at a strange port, Buenos Aires or Rio, in the midst of a pandemic. Better solution would have been to get supplies and fuel, keep all guests on board, and then sail right back to the final port, Fort Lauderdale. As it turned out Princess' initial decision was a very bad solution and one that caused some to lose lives. Buenos Aires was the disembarkation port for about 3/4 of the passengers. Others were to embark there but Princess canceled their cruise. Only about 500 passengers of which over half were not Americans would have been left on the ship. Princess did manage to get all but 1000 off the ship in Buenos Aires before having to leave. So it may have saved some lives. I was on the Coral until Miami. Cynthia Edited May 29, 2020 by LunaSeaRetreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsea Posted May 29, 2020 #12 Share Posted May 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, LunaSeaRetreat said: Buenos Aires was the disembarkation port for about 3/4 of the passengers. Others were to embark there but Princess canceled their cruise. Only about 500 passengers of which over half were not Americans would have been left on the ship. Princess did manage to get all but 1000 off the ship in Buenos Aires before having to leave. So it may have saved some lives. I was on the Coral until Miami. Cynthia Please don’t confuse us with facts, it spoils the narrative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skynight Posted May 29, 2020 #13 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Disagree with the OP. Hiring and firing is not our call. We should not speculate on internal corporate operations. It's probable the decisions made at the time were the best available and with the approval of local authorities in B.A. The ship did have passengers on board that were booked to disembark in B.A. From what I read the ship was virus free before B.A., and it is believed that local authorities brought the virus on board. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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