39august Posted September 22, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Is this area near the front of Liberty still a cigar lounge or has it been turned into something else, please? How about Vintages? I know there were plans to change that to a differently themed bar. Haven't been on LB or RCI at all in more than 3 years and now considering LB again when cruising restarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted September 22, 2020 #2 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, 39august said: Is this area near the front of Liberty still a cigar lounge or has it been turned into something else, please? How about Vintages? I know there were plans to change that to a differently themed bar. Haven't been on LB or RCI at all in more than 3 years and now considering LB again when cruising restarts. Deck plans still show the Connoisseur Club and Vintages 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 22, 2020 #3 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I’m not aware of any active smoking allowed indoors except the Casino. I don’t think cigar smoking is permitted in the Casino. M8 Edited September 22, 2020 by Milwaukee Eight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 22, 2020 #4 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I’m not aware of any active smoking allowed indoors except the Casino. I don’t think cigar smoking is permitted in the Casino. M8 Freedom and Voyager ships had a cigar lounge on deck 5 forward. Over the years, this space has evolved into DL, card room, or Library. Liberty deck plans still show her to have a cigar lounge like Ryan mentioned 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted September 22, 2020 #5 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I have a feeling, at least for the US, that due to transmission only through droplets in the air that smoking/vaping/cigars/etc may be banned except for a very few select places on the ship. I think people will finally get no smoking in the casino. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 22, 2020 #6 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: Freedom and Voyager ships had a cigar lounge on deck 5 forward. Over the years, this space has evolved into DL, card room, or Library. Liberty deck plans still show her to have a cigar lounge like Ryan mentioned As a frequent cruiser, are you aware of any indoor area on Royal ship where cigar smoking is permitted? M8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 22, 2020 #7 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said: As a frequent cruiser, are you aware of any indoor area on Royal ship where cigar smoking is permitted? M8 Yes, the cigar lounges, deck 5 forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 22, 2020 #8 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Yes, the cigar lounges, deck 5 forward. Currently? It’s not a trick question. Prior to no sail order. Edited September 22, 2020 by Milwaukee Eight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted September 22, 2020 #9 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said: As a frequent cruiser, are you aware of any indoor area on Royal ship where cigar smoking is permitted? M8 Cigar lounge on ships that still have it... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 22, 2020 #10 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Currently? It’s not a trick question. Prior to no sail order. Yes, prior to March. I don't think they closed them down as a backlash against cigars, well maybe Voyager, but as a money grab to add more cabins elsewhere. Some were removed as a result of changing the VCL DL to the SL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HicksRA Posted September 22, 2020 #11 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 22, 2020 #12 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Yes, prior to March. I don't think they closed them down as a backlash against cigars, well maybe Voyager, but as a money grab to add more cabins elsewhere. Some were removed as a result of changing the VCL DL to the SL Ok. I stand corrected. I thought the plan was to add cabins in those areas. My bad. M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 22, 2020 #13 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Ok. I stand corrected. I thought the plan was to add cabins in those areas. My bad. M8 yes, the old CL's became cabins, but some of the Voyager ships had an Izumi added to the VCL where the card room was, so they changed the DL to SL and moved the DL down to deck 5. Card rooms were where the SL was created on Freedom ships, not sure where card room is on Liberty. We should have sailed her in April😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted September 22, 2020 #14 Share Posted September 22, 2020 57 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Freedom and Voyager ships had a cigar lounge on deck 5 forward. Over the years, this space has evolved into DL, card room, or Library. Liberty deck plans still show her to have a cigar lounge like Ryan mentioned Got to meet some interesting people in the Connoisseur Club. Me the retired cop and my son the detective got a good laugh after meeting these gems in the club. https://www.11alive.com/article/travel/four-women-charged-with-using-cruise-ship-to-smuggle-cocaine/85-255775653 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 22, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big_G said: Got to meet some interesting people in the Connoisseur Club. Me the retired cop and my son the detective got a good laugh after meeting these gems in the club. https://www.11alive.com/article/travel/four-women-charged-with-using-cruise-ship-to-smuggle-cocaine/85-255775653 We missed it, but I remember the news coverage Our 2016 Freedom trips were March and August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted September 22, 2020 Author #16 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Thanks for all the info. I know the deck plans show these venues, but deck plans aren't always up to date. The cigar lounge on LB is quite nicely appointed. Too bad I don't smoke cigars! If smoking becomes banned in the RCL casinos, that will be one good thing to come of covid19. One of the reasons we have lately cruised only X is the smoke free casino. Card room on LB is where concierge club used to be. Edited September 22, 2020 by 39august 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HicksRA Posted September 22, 2020 #17 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I went in there last November with my son’s FIL who smokes cigars. The stench and smoke was so bad, I wanted a power wash and a hit of pure oxygen when I came out. It was full of cigarette smokers as well as cigar smokers. Edited September 22, 2020 by HicksRA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted September 22, 2020 #18 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, HicksRA said: I went in there last November with my son’s FIL who smokes cigars. The stench and smoke was so bad, I wanted a power wash and a hit of pure oxygen when I came out. It was full of cigarette smokers as well as cigar smokers. The last time we were in there on Freedom which was a few years ago there were only a couple of cigarette smokers and the air wasn't bad at all. We did a Princess many moons ago and there cigar lounge was brutal. My eyes were watering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted September 22, 2020 #19 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, HicksRA said: I went in there last November with my son’s FIL who smokes cigars. The stench and smoke was so bad, I wanted a power wash and a hit of pure oxygen when I came out. It was full of cigarette smokers as well as cigar smokers. I am a cigar smoker - I love the lounge but don’t enjoy the cigarette smoke in there. Cigar smoke is aromatic and relaxing to me - cigarette smoke is not. Granted it won’t really matter since these lounges are disappearing! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted September 22, 2020 #20 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I glad they do allow smoking in that one lounge , but wish they removed it from the casino. We are hopefully sailing on Liberty in February. Have not sailed from Galveston recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted September 22, 2020 #21 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, TheMastodon said: I am a cigar smoker - I love the lounge but don’t enjoy the cigarette smoke in there. Cigar smoke is aromatic and relaxing to me - cigarette smoke is not. Granted it won’t really matter since these lounges are disappearing! We did a B2B Caribbean cruise on the Freedom March 2019. I walked into the Connoisseur Club just to check it out. Very nice room but full of cigarettes smokers. I was under the impression the Connoisseur Club was for cigar smokers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted September 22, 2020 #22 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, davekathy said: We did a B2B Caribbean cruise on the Freedom March 2019. I walked into the Connoisseur Club just to check it out. Very nice room but full of cigarettes smokers. I was under the impression the Connoisseur Club was for cigar smokers. They have always had a large group of people smoking cigarettes in there on all the voyager and freedom class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted September 22, 2020 #23 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, George C said: They have always had a large group of people smoking cigarettes in there on all the voyager and freedom class ships. I remember way back when Michales Club on Celebrity ships was dedicated for cigar smokers only. I assumed the RCs Connoisseur Clubs were the same. Since I'm an X-smoker (29 years) I guess I shouldn't have complained about the cigarette stench as that is one of the designated smoking areas, at least for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted September 22, 2020 #24 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, 39august said: I know the deck plans show these venues, but deck plans aren't always up to date. I pulled directly from the RCI website. Even clicking on the May 2021-April 2021 deck plan link, it still shows the Connoisseur Club and Vintages yet the Connoisseur Club is gone from RCIs deck plans for Freedom of the Seas. I am guessing on Liberty's next major drydock, the Connoisseur Club will go away, whenever that is. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/liberty-of-the-seas/deck-plans/2049/05 Edited September 22, 2020 by ryano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HicksRA Posted September 22, 2020 #25 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, ryano said: I pulled directly from the RCI website. Even clicking on the May 2021-April 2021 deck plan link, it still shows the Connoisseur Club and Vintages yet the Connoisseur Club is gone from RCIs deck plans for Freedom of the Seas. I am guessing on Liberty's next major drydock, the Connoisseur Club will go away, whenever that is. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/liberty-of-the-seas/deck-plans/2049/05 Yes, I’m sure it was to be eliminated on the next enhanced dry dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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