Rare ontheweb Posted May 28, 2021 #1 Share Posted May 28, 2021 It would not apply to travel with the USA, but they say it would help Americans travelling to other countries that might have vaccine requirements. DHS secretary: 'We're taking a very close look at' vaccine passports (msn.com) 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted May 28, 2021 #2 Share Posted May 28, 2021 It sure would. Canada is considering it as well and again, for purposes of travel. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFO Peter Posted May 28, 2021 #3 Share Posted May 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, ontheweb said: It would not apply to travel with the USA, but they say it would help Americans travelling to other countries that might have vaccine requirements. DHS secretary: 'We're taking a very close look at' vaccine passports (msn.com) === Yaay! Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgev Posted May 28, 2021 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2021 It would be a step in the right direction. There would be a better chance of ports being open to vaccinated cruisers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLC1954 Posted May 28, 2021 #5 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The other plus is one could run into some true penalties if they lie about being vaccinated or falsify the vaccination document. I’m all for it! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsldonk Posted May 28, 2021 #6 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I think this will be excellent. Honestly about the only way we will be able to keep people honest about it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atexsix Posted May 28, 2021 #7 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I'm all for it even though I think it's going to be a logistical challenge especially when it's time for booster shots/jabs. Would people need to renew on their own? Will it be automatic? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted May 29, 2021 #8 Share Posted May 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, atexsix said: I'm all for it even though I think it's going to be a logistical challenge especially when it's time for booster shots/jabs. Would people need to renew on their own? Will it be automatic? Exactly. It may be well meaning and assure consistency but it is of time-limited use. And truly in 18 months this will all be history if this pandemic plays out like other plagues and pandemics. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atexsix Posted May 29, 2021 #9 Share Posted May 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mary229 said: Exactly. It may be well meaning and assure consistency but it is of time-limited use. And truly in 18 months this will all be history if this pandemic plays out like other plagues and pandemics. Also, at the risk of being a negative nelly and putting my foot in my mouth again, it's been my experience if you want to complicate anything, just invite the US government into it. By the time all the debate and arguing are over, the form will be 10 pages long with vague instructions along with various threats if not filled out correctly, meaning people will just throw their hands up and forget it. I think Canada with a national healthcare program already, may have the necessary infrastructure in place to carry out something like this rather quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted May 29, 2021 #10 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, atexsix said: Also, at the risk of being a negative nelly and putting my foot in my mouth again, it's been my experience if you want to complicate anything, just invite the US government into it. By the time all the debate and arguing are over, the form will be 10 pages long with vague instructions along with various threats if not filled out correctly, meaning people will just throw their hands up and forget it. I think Canada with a national healthcare program already, may have the necessary infrastructure in place to carry out something like this rather quickly. I think if you were vaccinated at a government hub as I was all of the data is available through a government website already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atexsix Posted May 29, 2021 #11 Share Posted May 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mary229 said: I think if you were vaccinated at a government hub as I was all of the data is available through a government website already. It was a pharmacy, not government, and I'm sure the CDC has all the info, but....as you alluded to, it'll take them months and months to get a process in place, and while I can see the necessity, I'm not sure this is a door we should be opening, talk about big brother! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted May 29, 2021 #12 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, atexsix said: It was a pharmacy, not government, and I'm sure the CDC has all the info, but....as you alluded to, it'll take them months and months to get a process in place, and while I can see the necessity, I'm not sure this is a door we should be opening, talk about big brother! Yeah but this decision is way beyond my pay grade and as an extreme pragmatist i just want to travel. Privacy issues are difficult policy decisions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old mike Posted May 29, 2021 #13 Share Posted May 29, 2021 I remember going to work in Zambia in the early 1970's and having to have proof of vaccination for yellow fever. I wish I could agree on the Canadian system but nothing could be further from the truth, we live in Alberta so know the reality, each province has it's own position on this issue. I hope there is a requirement for proof of vaccination, this whole discussion devolves down to the perennial division between individual rights and those of the broader society. An epistemological approach is probably the best. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whogo Posted May 29, 2021 #14 Share Posted May 29, 2021 This CDC webpage has links to immunization registries kept by US states: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/iis/contacts-locate-records.html#state You may want to check if you are listed. I assume this info could be used for vaccine passports. I have only a partial match and am unable to access my immunization records, my government ID number was not recorded when I was vaccinated. My name and birth date might be unique enough that I can the registry updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscurlock Posted May 29, 2021 #15 Share Posted May 29, 2021 This is one of those situations where they don't have a choice because the EU is requiring proof of vaccination. If there was a situation where someone faked their vaccination status it would be really bad for the US travel to the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted May 29, 2021 #16 Share Posted May 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, old mike said: I hope there is a requirement for proof of vaccination, this whole discussion devolves down to the perennial division between individual rights and those of the broader society. An epistemological approach is probably the best. I hope there is too as each province has their own system for vaccination so we have no national record like our U.S. counterparts. It would make travel so much easier I suspect if we had a uniform method of proof for our country. If it’s only for travel (like your yellow vaccine certificate) I see no breach of individual rights. Passports are required to get into countries re-opening so if we want to get there we need not just our passport but our vaccine proof that is acceptable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Girl Posted May 29, 2021 #17 Share Posted May 29, 2021 14 hours ago, Mary229 said: Exactly. It may be well meaning and assure consistency but it is of time-limited use. And truly in 18 months this will all be history if this pandemic plays out like other plagues and pandemics. Hopefully, but colds have not played out and isn't Covid cold-related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted May 29, 2021 #18 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tampa Girl said: Hopefully, but colds have not played out and isn't Covid cold-related? They play out by mutating to a variety that preserves the life of the host. That is how most biology works. Wayyyy off topic, I was thinking this morning how it is my generation which was the last that truly got sick from viruses. Mothers knew what it was to look into the eyes of a feverish child and hope they made it through the night. That is not modern experience and I think that is why so many have a negative outlook. Few in western society have seen how epidemics and pandemics play out Edited May 29, 2021 by Mary229 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted May 29, 2021 #19 Share Posted May 29, 2021 It sounds like they are thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 29, 2021 #20 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) We would be happy if somehow our record of vaccinations could be embedded in our passport. We still use our yellow International Record of Vaccination. But....all the entries are hand written. I believe that over 50 years we have only been asked for them three times-in Africa. DW's has been required each time she was hired at a various hospitals over the years-a basic condition of employment. Edited May 29, 2021 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa7yy Posted May 29, 2021 #21 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Sure seems like it would be pretty easy to embed your vaccination info into an app like the mobile passport one on the bottom here. Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted May 29, 2021 #22 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, aa7yy said: Sure seems like it would be pretty easy to embed your vaccination info into an app like the mobile passport one on the bottom here. Here What about people who don't have a smart phone? HAL's sister line Princess is having a devil of a time getting their app working. Many people can't even log into their MedallionClass App. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa7yy Posted May 29, 2021 #23 Share Posted May 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Daniel A said: What about people who don't have a smart phone? HAL's sister line Princess is having a devil of a time getting their app working. Many people can't even log into their MedallionClass App. Then I guess you paperclip you vaccine record inside your passport. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highscar Posted May 29, 2021 #24 Share Posted May 29, 2021 We had to be vaccinated when immigrated from England. The scar was the “ passport” lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinboy Posted May 29, 2021 #25 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Happy dance. Great move. I'm sure they will get it figured out ... just like they figured out regular passports and passport cards. No shirt, no service. No vaccination, no international travel. Sounds right to me. No one is forcing anyone to travel internationally. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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