ray985 Posted July 16, 2021 #1 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Wow, Carnival was really doing work to improve the ships during shutdown. They made quite a few changes and managed to keep them secret. First, they removed the Casino Bar for the Vista-class ships. Now they've added a new smoke-free casino on the Dream-class ships. It replaces the old conference rooms. I like it as an option because it still gives people the ability to smoke and gamble if they like, but for those who don't like a smoky atmosphere, they can go to a separate venue. https://cruisespotlight.com/carnival-introduces-an-additional-smoke-free-casino-on-the-carnival-breeze-carnival-dream-and-carnival-magic 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groundloop Posted July 16, 2021 #2 Share Posted July 16, 2021 That's an improvement, I could never stay in the casino for more than a few minutes because of the smoke. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted July 16, 2021 #3 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I'm torn on these changes. On paper, it's pretty hard to be mad at a smokeless option. However, changes don't always go as good as they sound on paper. Personally, the casino bar is my favorite part of the casino. I would likely visit the Vista Casino even less now without it. I would also wager to say the smokeless casinos on the Dream class would probably be not as fun and lively. For as much complaining there is about the smoke, I am curious to see just how much of a market there really is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted July 16, 2021 #4 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Frankly, I would have preferred if they did the opposite: put the smoking casino in a sealed off room, and made the main walk-through casino smoke free. But I'm not a gambler, so I'll just avoid both, though walking through the main casino is still a probable path for convenience and I'll just put up with the smoke. 25 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted July 16, 2021 #5 Share Posted July 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joebucks said: I'm torn on these changes. On paper, it's pretty hard to be mad at a smokeless option. However, changes don't always go as good as they sound on paper. Personally, the casino bar is my favorite part of the casino. I would likely visit the Vista Casino even less now without it. I would also wager to say the smokeless casinos on the Dream class would probably be not as fun and lively. For as much complaining there is about the smoke, I am curious to see just how much of a market there really is. In the words of The Dear Leader..."We'll see what happens"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_load_letter Posted July 16, 2021 #6 Share Posted July 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joebucks said: I'm torn on these changes. On paper, it's pretty hard to be mad at a smokeless option. However, changes don't always go as good as they sound on paper. Personally, the casino bar is my favorite part of the casino. I would likely visit the Vista Casino even less now without it. I would also wager to say the smokeless casinos on the Dream class would probably be not as fun and lively. For as much complaining there is about the smoke, I am curious to see just how much of a market there really is. Yeah, the removal of the bar seems to be universally panned. I can't believe a bar did worse money making-wise than a few slot machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted July 16, 2021 #7 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Frankly, I would have preferred if they did the opposite: put the smoking casino in a sealed off room, and made the main walk-through casino smoke free. I fully agree. That smokey casino stinks up that end of the Promenade Deck. I like the idea of a sealed and self-contained Smoking Hot Casino where the pollution will be concentrated upon the smokers who created the condition: they'd love it! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 16, 2021 #8 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I was hoping they would have made it smoke free on the Mardi Gras. No stink now, new ship. You say no more Casino Bar? Really! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newe08 Posted July 16, 2021 #9 Share Posted July 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said: Yeah, the removal of the bar seems to be universally panned. I can't believe a bar did worse money making-wise than a few slot machines. It almost seemed the casino bars were the “hang out” spot after midnight for a lot of people ..especially since they closed late. I wonder what people will do now on the Vista class ships. I think the Piano Bar stays open till 1:00, but people may not want to go there to have a conversation/relax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYcruzzer Posted July 16, 2021 #10 Share Posted July 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Frankly, I would have preferred if they did the opposite: put the smoking casino in a sealed off room, and made the main walk-through casino smoke free. But I'm not a gambler, so I'll just avoid both, though walking through the main casino is still a probable path for convenience and I'll just put up with the smoke. NCL did just that on their Newest Breakaway plus ships. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 16, 2021 #11 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I'd like to see no smoking at the bar. Especially on the Dream. There is no sports bar. There is no pub. The casino bar is the sports bar. I remember just trying to watch a football game there and just having smoke flowing directly into my face. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 16, 2021 #12 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I was hoping they would have made it smoke free on the Mardi Gras. No stink now, new ship. You say no more Casino Bar? Really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AtSeaWithChris Posted July 16, 2021 #13 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I don't smoke anymore but I vape. It's much cleaner and doesn't smell bad and it smells enjoyable to SOME people around me. I would like a bar where I can go sit and vape / smoke and enjoy the air conditioning, out of the sun, out of the wind and have a drink and conversation. I am sure there are plenty like myself who would like that. I don't really gamble but I am glad the smoke free casino is out of the way and the casino where you can smoke is convenient. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 16, 2021 #14 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Saint Greg said: I'd like to see no smoking at the bar. Especially on the Dream. There is no sports bar. There is no pub. The casino bar is the sports bar. I remember just trying to watch a football game there and just having smoke flowing directly into my face. Do not remember about all the Carnival ships we have been on. I do remember they only allowed smoking at one end of the bar. At that end they had suction fan smoke filters that helped, but not eliminated the smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc_load_letter Posted July 16, 2021 #15 Share Posted July 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Newe08 said: It almost seemed the casino bars were the “hang out” spot after midnight for a lot of people ..especially since they closed late. I wonder what people will do now on the Vista class ships. I think the Piano Bar stays open till 1:00, but people may not want to go there to have a conversation/relax. Yes! The wife and I enjoyed taking the Inspiration and Imagination from Long Beach every month or so for their 3 or 4 day cruises. These were older Fantasy class ships and you're right, after dinner the casino bar on those ships were always packed. They generally had the house band playing right there as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 16, 2021 #16 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Just now, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Do not remember about all the Carnival ships we have been on. I do remember they only allowed smoking at one end of the bar. At that end they had suction fan smoke filters that helped, but not eliminated the smoke. I don't know if there's a rule like that but if there had been more than one seat available I would've moved for sure. When football is on and there's only one place to watch the game, it gets crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cruiser Posted July 16, 2021 #17 Share Posted July 16, 2021 52 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said: Frankly, I would have preferred if they did the opposite: put the smoking casino in a sealed off room, and made the main walk-through casino smoke free. But I'm not a gambler, so I'll just avoid both, though walking through the main casino is still a probable path for convenience and I'll just put up with the smoke. I'm with you. We don't gamble. My wife has asthma and walking through that area is terrible. Never understood why the main pathway from front to back of the ship is the main interior area for smoking. One thing I do like about the Dream class is the ability to use deck four to by-pass the smoke from the casino. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiRodney Posted July 16, 2021 #18 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I'm excited to see the non smoking stand alone option when we sail on the Breeze next year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidecat Posted July 16, 2021 #19 Share Posted July 16, 2021 There's supposed to be an announcement on the Mardi Gras casino soon. Given that part of it overlooks the atrium, I'm hoping the port side will be smoke free, as that should cut down on smoke in the atrium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted July 16, 2021 #20 Share Posted July 16, 2021 It's such a stupid habit. All you get is lung cancer - and your money... going into their pockets. And you don't even get a high! LOL! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted July 16, 2021 #21 Share Posted July 16, 2021 A simpler solution is to have casinos smoking. Just require smokers to stay in an airtight bubble where all the smoke stays in it and on them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted July 16, 2021 #22 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MamallamaAndDaddy said: I don't smoke anymore but I vape. It's much cleaner and doesn't smell bad and it smells enjoyable to SOME people around me. I would like a bar where I can go sit and vape / smoke and enjoy the air conditioning, out of the sun, out of the wind and have a drink and conversation. I am sure there are plenty like myself who would like that. I don't really gamble but I am glad the smoke free casino is out of the way and the casino where you can smoke is convenient. I vape too! Smoked cigarettes since I was 13 and vaping helped me quit when I was 36 (10 years now). Personally I love the smell of a burning cigarette (still addicted to the smell) but this is a wonderful win win for everyone! They should have done this on the Vista class ships as well! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted July 16, 2021 #23 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, bdever said: I vape too! Smoked cigarettes since I was 13 and vaping helped me quit when I was 36 (10 years now). Personally I love the smell of a burning cigarette (still addicted to the smell) but this is a wonderful win win for everyone! They should have done this on the Vista class ships as well! Vista class the bar was removed and more casino put in. I dont pay enough attention to smoking but they did changes the vista class casino already. I see above news is coming on mardi gras casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted July 16, 2021 #24 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Vista class the bar was removed and more casino put in. I dont pay enough attention to smoking but they did changes the vista class casino already. I see above news is coming on mardi gras casino. Yes, I saw that on Mardi Gras. I wish they wouldn’t have removed the bar from the Vista class Casinos. It would have been nice to have the change like the Dream class ships instead but perhaps it is due to the design of the casinos on the Vista class ships? Couldn’t they have just made the bar area itself non-smoking as in if you sit or stand at the bar you can’t light up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowflag Posted July 16, 2021 #25 Share Posted July 16, 2021 In a few short years the smokers will be relegated to the small casino. It is inevitable. We accepted our fate years ago. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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