sixbirches Posted October 1, 2021 #51 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, ace2542 said: Perhaps because you are being tracked around the ship like Person of Interest or George Orwells 1984. Kind of like the way my IPhone tracks me and how Facebook tracks people and the way Alexa listens to us. I can go on and on…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted October 1, 2021 #52 Share Posted October 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, sixbirches said: Kind of like the way my IPhone tracks me and how Facebook tracks people and the way Alexa listens to us. I can go on and on…. Leave the phone at home. Don't log into Facebook and don't use Alexa. These items may track a person but need a warrant to actually use the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted October 1, 2021 #53 Share Posted October 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Tree_skier said: I wore mine on my belt loop. No one questioned it. THANK YOU!!! I absolutely HATE to wear anything on my wrist. It's a "thing" I have. Honestly, anything on my wrists make me feel like I have handcuffs on (I think........I've never had handcuffs on....but, it's the closest explanation I can give). I wear my lanyard all the time, and I hope this will be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyinpa Posted October 1, 2021 #54 Share Posted October 1, 2021 but my flashlight must need my contacts to operate...or it wouldnt ask 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixbirches Posted October 1, 2021 #55 Share Posted October 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, Keksie said: Leave the phone at home. Don't log into Facebook and don't use Alexa. These items may track a person but need a warrant to actually use the information. Wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted October 1, 2021 #56 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Keksie said: Leave the phone at home. Don't log into Facebook and don't use Alexa. These items may track a person but need a warrant to actually use the information. They only need warrant to LEGALLY use the information. Do you really think any person or group with criminal intent are going to get a warrant when they want to steal your personal information? 👀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted October 1, 2021 #57 Share Posted October 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Old Fart Cruisers said: They only need warrant to LEGALLY use the information. Do you really think any person or group with criminal intent are going to get a warrant when they want to steal your personal information? 👀 I don't think we are thinking about the same people/group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted October 1, 2021 #58 Share Posted October 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Keksie said: I don't think we are thinking about the same people/group. I know, but I'm not as concerned about the people that will be required to get a warrant as I am about the ones that won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted October 1, 2021 #59 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) I don't care if Royal Caribbean knows where I go or what I do while I'm on their ship. They know most of that anyways. To draw Orwellian comparisons is nonsense. Every smartphone gathers way more information, which is disseminated and sold on to all kinds of other people with far more nefarious intent than Royal Caribbean. If you are concerned about tracing on ship, to be consistent, smash your iPhone and get yourself a old Nokia flip phone. Edited October 1, 2021 by Tree_skier 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted October 1, 2021 #60 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I hate to spend the money for one of those Nokias . I'm just getting used to this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted October 1, 2021 #61 Share Posted October 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Old Fart Cruisers said: I hate to spend the money for one of those Nokias . I'm just getting used to this one Oh wow, you have one those really high tech ones. Mine is a little older! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted October 1, 2021 #62 Share Posted October 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Tree_skier said: I don't care if Royal Caribbean knows where I go or what I do while I'm on their ship. They know most of that anyways. To draw Orwellian comparisons is nonsense. Every smartphone gathers way more information, which is disseminated and sold on to all kinds of other people with far more nefarious intent than Royal Caribbean. If you are concerned about tracing on ship, to be consistent, smash your iPhone and get yourself a old Nokia flip phone. The problem I have with tracing on the ships is I don't know what the parameters are for being quarantined. What starts the contact tracing? A person with a positive rapid test? Is it followed up with a PCR test to be sure. How close, how long would exposure to that person be needed? If you are vaccinated and exposed to a person with covid the CDC does not require you to quarantine or test unless you have symptoms. Is that what is done on the ships? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc1025 Posted October 1, 2021 #63 Share Posted October 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Merion_Mom said: Your phone already does most of this, and you use it not only willingly, but enthusiastically. And if your phone is not doing it Google, Facebook and any number of internet companies and networks are. Everytime you click on something it gets tracked and your ip addressed is recorded. Welcome to the on line universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted October 3, 2021 #64 Share Posted October 3, 2021 They should back up the tracelets with daily testing onboard the ships onboard the ships. It is only a matter of time before passengers learn not to go to the medical centre especially with this Merck pill coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 3, 2021 #65 Share Posted October 3, 2021 If that article is correct and the protocols are going to be here for a long time I wonder if the ships will get enough people to maintain 100% occupancy level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted October 3, 2021 #66 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) On 10/1/2021 at 9:45 AM, ryano said: My phone does not have the capability of ruining my vacation over the possibility that I might have been to close to someone who might have COVID. Exactly. The people comparing tracelets on a ship to cell phones are making a pointless, irrelevant comparison. Tracelets have ONE purpose - to control covid yes, but to do so by tracking down and isolating people (and screw up their vacation). Edited October 3, 2021 by bouhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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