Reduced capacity?

[galleycook]

6 hours ago, Redtravel said:

Off Summit 2 days ago. Not surprisingly, my spouse tested positive today for Covid.  We both wore masks and tried to distance. However, with the packed crowds on Summit last week, it was likely to happen.  

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully mild symptoms and the recovery is quick. We tested ourselves Sunday night after arriving home and again on Mon. So far negative.

[Binbrooklady]

My DH and I were also on this cruise. We were disappointed with the MDR. When I first booked, I tried unsuccessfully to get reservations for close to 7 PM. As soon as we boarded, we tried unsuccessfully again. The first night we ate in Oceanview. The second night we went to deck 5 and lined up for 10 minutes to be told we had to go to deck 4. Once again, lined up for 10 minutes. We were then escorted back up to deck 5 and told to wait. Then we were escorted to the middle of the dining room and left standing while they tried to find our table. Someone else was called to assist and they could not find it. It was 8:30. We went to Oceanview.

 

We did not try the MDR again until we got to Charleston and then we asked for a pager and were seated before 7:30. On the second night, we ordered our dinner and were waiting for our appetizers when the asst. waiter brought someone else’s Entree. Then when we finished our correct entree, the asst. brought someone else’s appetizer.

 

In summary, staff shortages and lack of training was very noticeable in the MDR.

[Redtravel]

We tested on Sunday also. Both negative.  When we tested yesterday, I was negative. My spouse was positive.  Thinking that it might be a false positive, tested again with a different brand of test. Again, positive.  Coughing has increased. No doubt that I have been exposed and may become sick.  With all the crowding on the Summit, I cannot say that I am surprised. I am disappointed at the lack of safety protocols on the ship.  This was our first post pandemic cruise. It may be our last cruise.

[Redtravel]

35 minutes ago, Binbrooklady said:

My DH and I were also on this cruise. We were disappointed with the MDR. When I first booked, I tried unsuccessfully to get reservations for close to 7 PM. As soon as we boarded, we tried unsuccessfully again. The first night we ate in Oceanview. The second night we went to deck 5 and lined up for 10 minutes to be told we had to go to deck 4. Once again, lined up for 10 minutes. We were then escorted back up to deck 5 and told to wait. Then we were escorted to the middle of the dining room and left standing while they tried to find our table. Someone else was called to assist and they could not find it. It was 8:30. We went to Oceanview.

 

We did not try the MDR again until we got to Charleston and then we asked for a pager and were seated before 7:30. On the second night, we ordered our dinner and were waiting for our appetizers when the asst. waiter brought someone else’s Entree. Then when we finished our correct entree, the asst. brought someone else’s appetizer.

 

In summary, staff shortages and lack of training was very noticeable in the MDR.

We made dinner reservations in March after we booked.  Unlike past cruises when dinner reservations were honored, this cruise was crazy.  The hoards of people trying to enter the MDR for dinner was insane.  

[B x]

Certainly no reduced capacity on Reflection.  When we boarded Monday we were told 2,400+ passengers, today an officer said 95% capacity and it certainly feels like it. This morning the Captain announced the first covid cases and stressed caution. 

 

We are masking,  few are. 

[LGW59]

52 minutes ago, Binbrooklady said:

My DH and I were also on this cruise. We were disappointed with the MDR. When I first booked, I tried unsuccessfully to get reservations for close to 7 PM. As soon as we boarded, we tried unsuccessfully again. The first night we ate in Oceanview. The second night we went to deck 5 and lined up for 10 minutes to be told we had to go to deck 4. Once again, lined up for 10 minutes. We were then escorted back up to deck 5 and told to wait. Then we were escorted to the middle of the dining room and left standing while they tried to find our table. Someone else was called to assist and they could not find it. It was 8:30. We went to Oceanview.

 

We did not try the MDR again until we got to Charleston and then we asked for a pager and were seated before 7:30. On the second night, we ordered our dinner and were waiting for our appetizers when the asst. waiter brought someone else’s Entree. Then when we finished our correct entree, the asst. brought someone else’s appetizer.

 

In summary, staff shortages and lack of training was very noticeable in the MDR.

Just like in Feb/March 2020, the cruise lines are continuing to prove that they have no idea how to handle challenging situations.  Glad I’ve canceled my two 2022 cruises.  Hope you stay safe and your on-board experience improves!

 

[mahdnc]

20 minutes ago, Redtravel said:

We tested on Sunday also. Both negative.  When we tested yesterday, I was negative. My spouse was positive.  Thinking that it might be a false positive, tested again with a different brand of test. Again, positive.  Coughing has increased. No doubt that I have been exposed and may become sick.  With all the crowding on the Summit, I cannot say that I am surprised. I am disappointed at the lack of safety protocols on the ship.  This was our first post pandemic cruise. It may be our last cruise.

Sorry to hear about the positive test. I hope your spouse recovers quickly and that you remain virus free 😷

[TeeRick]

36 minutes ago, Redtravel said:

We tested on Sunday also. Both negative.  When we tested yesterday, I was negative. My spouse was positive.  Thinking that it might be a false positive, tested again with a different brand of test. Again, positive.  Coughing has increased. No doubt that I have been exposed and may become sick.  With all the crowding on the Summit, I cannot say that I am surprised. I am disappointed at the lack of safety protocols on the ship.  This was our first post pandemic cruise. It may be our last cruise.

Sorry to hear about your COVID+ spouse.  Hopefully a mild case.  Many many people are reporting here on CC that they contacted COVID on their cruise (or travel) and have symptoms post-cruise.  Pretty common now unfortunately.  Take care!

[galleycook]

3 hours ago, TeeRick said:

Sorry to hear about your COVID+ spouse.  Hopefully a mild case.  Many many people are reporting here on CC that they contacted COVID on their cruise (or travel) and have symptoms post-cruise.  Pretty common now unfortunately.  Take care!

I hope everyone that ends up testing positive within a few days of the cruise reports it back to Celebrity. They need  to track all cases and then supply the correct information to the CDC. 

[OysterD]

13 minutes ago, galleycook said:

I hope everyone that ends up testing positive within a few days of the cruise reports it back to Celebrity. They need  to track all cases and then supply the correct information to the CDC. 

Sheesh. Why should they do that. What has the cdc got to do with anything when it comes to a European citizen testing positive for covid in Europe, several days after they get home from a cruise on a Maltese flagged ship sailing in European waters? 

 

I guess some people are just never going to let this go are they. 

 

If you're so worried about covid, don't cruise. It's never going away, people will be catching covid on cruise ships (and everywhere else in life) forever more. The vast majority of people are just getting on with things now and not spending every waking moment worrying about something which currently has a mortality rate of less than 0.02%. 

 

Cruising has to get back to normal, at full capacity, with minimal or no restrictions (like everything else) otherwise the cruise lines all go bankrupt. If you don't like the idea of ships at full capacity, don't go. It's that simple. 

[PTC DAWG]

12 hours ago, Redtravel said:

Off Summit 2 days ago. Not surprisingly, my spouse tested positive today for Covid.  We both wore masks and tried to distance. However, with the packed crowds on Summit last week, it was likely to happen.  

I suppose he had bad symptoms..I see zero reasons for random testing, unless required for travel…and not much travel requires it anymore..

Edited June 15, 2022 by PTC DAWG

[PTC DAWG]

7 minutes ago, OysterD said:

Sheesh. Why should they do that. What has the cdc got to do with anything when it comes to a European citizen testing positive for covid in Europe, several days after they get home from a cruise on a Maltese flagged ship sailing in European waters? 

 

I guess some people are just never going to let this go are they. 

 

If you're so worried about covid, don't cruise. It's never going away, people will be catching covid on cruise ships (and everywhere else in life) forever more. The vast majority of people are just getting on with things now and not spending every waking moment worrying about something which currently has a mortality rate of less than 0.02%. 

 

Cruising has to get back to normal, at full capacity, with minimal or no restrictions (like everything else) otherwise the cruise lines all go bankrupt. If you don't like the idea of ships at full capacity, don't go. It's that simple. 

Agree..

[latserrof]

On 6/13/2022 at 10:35 AM, OysterD said:

 What's the difference between going on a cruise for a week or staying in say the Bellagio in Vegas or a Sandals resort in the Caribbean for a week?

Valet parking?

[Aloha 1]

On 6/13/2022 at 4:26 PM, galleycook said:

How did the Diamond Princess end up with ship full of Covid.... it started with one person.

It expanded because the Japanese Government would not let anyone off the ship thereby enabling the spread to healthy passengers. If they had done basic triage and isolated those exhibiting sickness (fever, cough, etc,.) and let the rest fly home, the story would have been quite different.

[LGW59]

15 minutes ago, Aloha 1 said:

It expanded because the Japanese Government would not let anyone off the ship thereby enabling the spread to healthy passengers. If they had done basic triage and isolated those exhibiting sickness (fever, cough, etc,.) and let the rest fly home, the story would have been quite different.

Sure and perhaps Japan's population of COVID would have been much different as well.  Such a typical American response!  For the record, I am an American.

[Aloha 1]

6 minutes ago, LGW59 said:

Sure and perhaps Japan's population of COVID would have been much different as well.  Such a typical American response!  For the record, I am an American.

Easily handled by hazmat suits as the port authorities were already doing to provide food to the ship. Special buses direct to Narita or Haneda. The point is by locking everyone in they created the mess.

[LGW59]

1 minute ago, Aloha 1 said:

Easily handled by hazmat suits as the port authorities were already doing to provide food to the ship. Special buses direct to Narita or Haneda. The point is by locking everyone in they created the mess.

Cruise lines created and exacerbated the mess.

[Aloha 1]

Just now, LGW59 said:

Cruise lines created and exacerbated the mess.

How?

[galleycook]

2 hours ago, Aloha 1 said:

It expanded because the Japanese Government would not let anyone off the ship thereby enabling the spread to healthy passengers. If they had done basic triage and isolated those exhibiting sickness (fever, cough, etc,.) and let the rest fly home, the story would have been quite different.

Well you have to know that you are positive to be isolated. Which means a test. The fact that you have a cough doesn't mean you have Covid. I was trying to point out if you have no controls/plans, it can spread quickly (which is exactly what you are saying). But I'd rather have controls and plans in place before the cruise.  

[galleycook]

2 hours ago, OysterD said:

Sheesh. Why should they do that. What has the cdc got to do with anything when it comes to a European citizen testing positive for covid in Europe, several days after they get home from a cruise on a Maltese flagged ship sailing in European waters? 

 

I guess some people are just never going to let this go are they. 

 

If you're so worried about covid, don't cruise. It's never going away, people will be catching covid on cruise ships (and everywhere else in life) forever more. The vast majority of people are just getting on with things now and not spending every waking moment worrying about something which currently has a mortality rate of less than 0.02%. 

 

Cruising has to get back to normal, at full capacity, with minimal or no restrictions (like everything else) otherwise the cruise lines all go bankrupt. If you don't like the idea of ships at full capacity, don't go. It's that simple. 

Obviously they have jurisdiction of US porting ships, which is what this Bermuda/Charleston cruise was. Sheesh. And the cruise lines have the ability to opt in or out of the CDC program. If they opt in, they have to follow all rules, not just the ones they like. 

 

I'm not worried about catching Covid if the risks can be minimized. I'm not worried about having a car accident but I still have insurance and still drive defensively. Your opinion appears to be if you don't die from it, don't worry about. Tell that to the people have long term effects from catching it.And I do know of a few people who died from it and I suspect if they had a do-over, they would do things differently. 

 

The cruise lines do not need 100% capacity to make money. At 60%, they aren't going bankrupt. If you don't like ships being at less than full capacity, then don't go. It's that simple.