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As posted on the previous thread about our overall Edge TransAtlantic cruise, we booked a Sky Suite for the 1st time and thought we’d share comments focused on that.

 

Again, we’ve cruised 42 times and 28 with Celebrity so you know my biases. I book with Celebrity as primary and go with other Lines for itineraries or join friends. We usually go with a balcony and on Edge Class, we like the Infinite Veranda.

 

We booked a Sky Suite 2 on the Edge TransAtlantic to experience the Retreat with so many sea days. And it greatly exceeded our expectations.

 

SR:

We had SR 9178. Midship and a Sky Suite 2. Larger than a standard SR and the bed is against the BR but faces the veranda, not an opposite wall (well bulkhead on a ship!). One side of the bed has USB and plug outlet. Loved the bed setup! Lots of drawers and good closet for hanging items. Large couch and great SR to add a 3rd person. BR was large. Square tub and shower with glass enclosure. Euro shower head. Closed toilet. Large sink with 2 facets and lots of storage. Odd thing: the mirror over the sink opens to the SR area. You can see the veranda/sea when you are at the sink…..I told my wife I could watch her shower without stepping in!! She wasn’t impressed with my idea. SR is quiet and mid between the front and back elevators (a bit closer to the fwd).

 

Butler and SR Staff:

One word: Outstanding! The butler, (GeDe ‘Goodday’) was the one thing I wasn’t sure of and he really added to our experience. Saw him every day, he got us reservations at the various dining venues and when we could only get 8:30pm at Eden, he called and got us what we wanted at 6:30pm. Took care of minor issues and gave us good gouge on using the facilities. I had No Idea what I’d do with a butler and it is one of the major reasons I loved going Suite/Retreat.

 

Retreat:

Loved the lounge. Although the ship was 68% full, suites were fully booked, but there was never a crowd in the Retreat areas. They had light snacks in the morning and afternoons; excellent and quick waitstaff and I tried more than a few ‘exotic’ cocktails. Played cards. Met others and had a great time. The hosts were personable and very helpful. They had entertainers and ship staff come up and socialize a bit. The outside Retreat area is just fantastic. Lots of lounging, great bar, didnt do the pool or hot tub but it appeared to be very nice. Lots of space for all. Again, well above what I expected.

 

Dining Luminae:

Very elegant venue. Seated immediately whether 2, 4 or 6 of us. Enjoyed, but it has a more limited choice of appetizers and entrees than the MDRs. We enjoyed the MDRs more. As Suite, we could dine at the MDRs and Blu which is for Aqua Class, as available. Our butler got us set in two of the MDRs, our favorites of Normandie and Cypress and we loved them. Blu was also excellent. Enjoyed Luminae but there were issues beyond the more limited menu. For breakfast, we waited an hr to be served. And I knew the time we entered and when served…..not the classic exaggeration. Was about to leave when they brought it. Dinner was better serviced, but still longer than in the other venues. I would Not go Suite for the dining, but since you can go to other venues, it wasn’t a show-stopper, and did enjoy Luminae items we did order, just more limited choices. You can order off the menus of the MDRs but it wasn’t offered and it was a pain….for us. This was the one issue we had with Suite/Retreat.

 

Boarding/Departing:

Wow. At Civitavecchia, they had a separate boarding area with seating, a bar and light food. Didn’t use it since you could step on immediately. Not that different from the standard boarding, all very quick. By the way, we board as standard guests at the FLL terminal on an Apex cruise last Nov and it was Very Quick also.

Departure was the real difference. We had boarding tags that allowed us to depart very early, right after they announce those that were departing with all the luggage, or we could stay until 9:30ish at the end. Went to the Retreat lounge and relaxed there. They had light breakfast and service, and the hosts let us know when our luggage was available which was at 8. Then escorted us to the elevator and the other hosts were at the elevator landing to escort us to departure. Out we went, got our luggage and passed quickly through security. We used a local taxi and they were available immediately. I Do Not recommend using the ship shuttle buses; the taxi was $25 for the two of us and was quick and right to our terminal. Buses wait to be filled and the one time we did it in FLL, they dropped us off at one spot and had to walk a goodly distance. Not handy and more expensive. No reason to do that.

 

Finally:

Are we now Suite/Retreaters? If I can get one at a reasonable cost (that is always subjective isn’t it) and If one is available! We are booked for 4 Celebrity cruises and none….again None….have Suites available. The plus beyond standard SRs is the SR its self, larger, nice veranda and bed facing it; and yes, the butler; and the Retreat lounge and staff. All well worth it. Dining, which is So subjective, wasn’t a hallmark. But so many other options area available, and Luminae was good enough for us to use a number of times, just not a major draw….again for us. I hate telling people to use or not use some dining venue since dining opinions are so biased.

 

Enough. We love standard SRs, and yes, love the Edge Class Infinite Veranda, but if one is available, we will go with a Sky Suite!

 

Den

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Glad you enjoyed your 1st Suite experience.  
We loved the Edge and the Retreat on the Edge then we did the Beyond. Sky Suites cabins are the same but Retreat Sun Deck is bigger, Luminae with a lot more windows and other areas of the ship(Sunset Bar, Oceanview, Martini Bar, Eden Cafe seating) better.  The only thing I regret is that I don’t have anything booked the Beyond.

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Enjoyable reading, Denny. It seems we have similar likes regarding Edge Class ships. We also are very satisfied with standard balcony cabins and have had no yearning desire to book a suite. One reason is the Butler and our feelings about having someone in our face all the time. Based on your comments, it seems that, indeed. he made your cruise much more pleasant. 

 

Thanks to your clear, concise post suite cruising may become part of our travels sooner rather than later.   

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We also love the ship and the suite.  We cannot go back to a regular cabin!  LOVE the suite deck and restaurant.  Worth the extra fare IMO.  We are booked on the Apex this winter and truly looking foward to the b/2/b cruises!  Also not a fan of the infinite veranda staterooms.

 

Glad you enjoyed your cruise.

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Thanks for posting.  I'm glad you enjoyed your butler.  We have always enjoyed the extra service and the ability to get dining times in the specialty restaurants from our Butlers on other cruise lines.  We have not sailed in a suite on Celebrity.  I do love the full balcony, so we are sailing in a Sunset Veranda in January on The Edge. Our previous sailings were in Aqua Class, I know we will miss it and wish we had the opportunity to dine in Blu.   Hopefully, we will have an opportunity to bid for a suite move up.

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2 hours ago, Denny01 said:

As posted on the previous thread about our overall Edge TransAtlantic cruise, we booked a Sky Suite for the 1st time and thought we’d share comments focused on that.

 

Again, we’ve cruised 42 times and 28 with Celebrity so you know my biases. I book with Celebrity as primary and go with other Lines for itineraries or join friends. We usually go with a balcony and on Edge Class, we like the Infinite Veranda.

 

We booked a Sky Suite 2 on the Edge TransAtlantic to experience the Retreat with so many sea days. And it greatly exceeded our expectations.

 

SR:

We had SR 9178. Midship and a Sky Suite 2. Larger than a standard SR and the bed is against the BR but faces the veranda, not an opposite wall (well bulkhead on a ship!). One side of the bed has USB and plug outlet. Loved the bed setup! Lots of drawers and good closet for hanging items. Large couch and great SR to add a 3rd person. BR was large. Square tub and shower with glass enclosure. Euro shower head. Closed toilet. Large sink with 2 facets and lots of storage. Odd thing: the mirror over the sink opens to the SR area. You can see the veranda/sea when you are at the sink…..I told my wife I could watch her shower without stepping in!! She wasn’t impressed with my idea. SR is quiet and mid between the front and back elevators (a bit closer to the fwd).

 

Butler and SR Staff:

One word: Outstanding! The butler, (GeDe ‘Goodday’) was the one thing I wasn’t sure of and he really added to our experience. Saw him every day, he got us reservations at the various dining venues and when we could only get 8:30pm at Eden, he called and got us what we wanted at 6:30pm. Took care of minor issues and gave us good gouge on using the facilities. I had No Idea what I’d do with a butler and it is one of the major reasons I loved going Suite/Retreat.

 

Retreat:

Loved the lounge. Although the ship was 68% full, suites were fully booked, but there was never a crowd in the Retreat areas. They had light snacks in the morning and afternoons; excellent and quick waitstaff and I tried more than a few ‘exotic’ cocktails. Played cards. Met others and had a great time. The hosts were personable and very helpful. They had entertainers and ship staff come up and socialize a bit. The outside Retreat area is just fantastic. Lots of lounging, great bar, didnt do the pool or hot tub but it appeared to be very nice. Lots of space for all. Again, well above what I expected.

 

Dining Luminae:

Very elegant venue. Seated immediately whether 2, 4 or 6 of us. Enjoyed, but it has a more limited choice of appetizers and entrees than the MDRs. We enjoyed the MDRs more. As Suite, we could dine at the MDRs and Blu which is for Aqua Class, as available. Our butler got us set in two of the MDRs, our favorites of Normandie and Cypress and we loved them. Blu was also excellent. Enjoyed Luminae but there were issues beyond the more limited menu. For breakfast, we waited an hr to be served. And I knew the time we entered and when served…..not the classic exaggeration. Was about to leave when they brought it. Dinner was better serviced, but still longer than in the other venues. I would Not go Suite for the dining, but since you can go to other venues, it wasn’t a show-stopper, and did enjoy Luminae items we did order, just more limited choices. You can order off the menus of the MDRs but it wasn’t offered and it was a pain….for us. This was the one issue we had with Suite/Retreat.

 

Boarding/Departing:

Wow. At Civitavecchia, they had a separate boarding area with seating, a bar and light food. Didn’t use it since you could step on immediately. Not that different from the standard boarding, all very quick. By the way, we board as standard guests at the FLL terminal on an Apex cruise last Nov and it was Very Quick also.

Departure was the real difference. We had boarding tags that allowed us to depart very early, right after they announce those that were departing with all the luggage, or we could stay until 9:30ish at the end. Went to the Retreat lounge and relaxed there. They had light breakfast and service, and the hosts let us know when our luggage was available which was at 8. Then escorted us to the elevator and the other hosts were at the elevator landing to escort us to departure. Out we went, got our luggage and passed quickly through security. We used a local taxi and they were available immediately. I Do Not recommend using the ship shuttle buses; the taxi was $25 for the two of us and was quick and right to our terminal. Buses wait to be filled and the one time we did it in FLL, they dropped us off at one spot and had to walk a goodly distance. Not handy and more expensive. No reason to do that.

 

Finally:

Are we now Suite/Retreaters? If I can get one at a reasonable cost (that is always subjective isn’t it) and If one is available! We are booked for 4 Celebrity cruises and none….again None….have Suites available. The plus beyond standard SRs is the SR its self, larger, nice veranda and bed facing it; and yes, the butler; and the Retreat lounge and staff. All well worth it. Dining, which is So subjective, wasn’t a hallmark. But so many other options area available, and Luminae was good enough for us to use a number of times, just not a major draw….again for us. I hate telling people to use or not use some dining venue since dining opinions are so biased.

 

Enough. We love standard SRs, and yes, love the Edge Class Infinite Veranda, but if one is available, we will go with a Sky Suite!

 

Den

Denny, my wife and I were also on this sailing in an Aqua Class cabin. I would love to here your views on the lack of crew and their lack of experience above and beyond your suite perks and experience. 

 

Shaun

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2 minutes ago, Super_Tuscan said:

Denny, my wife and I were also on this sailing in an Aqua Class cabin. I would love to here your views on the lack of crew and their lack of experience above and beyond your suite perks and experience. 

 

Shaun

We spent a good deal of time in the venues throughout the ship, El Bacio, Eden and so on, and we dined outside the Suite dining, and found the staff to be excellent. And as I stated about Suite dining, I found the MDRs and locations such as the Spa and Eden Cafe to be well staffed and didnt notice any issues with any ‘lack of experience’, and only found the Luminae to be slower. 

 

Not sure how ‘lack of experience’ showed up. I was treated by a group of professionals and didnt see any issues. 

 

Den

 

 

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2 hours ago, Denny01 said:

We spent a good deal of time in the venues throughout the ship, El Bacio, Eden and so on, and we dined outside the Suite dining, and found the staff to be excellent. And as I stated about Suite dining, I found the MDRs and locations such as the Spa and Eden Cafe to be well staffed and didnt notice any issues with any ‘lack of experience’, and only found the Luminae to be slower. 

 

Not sure how ‘lack of experience’ showed up. I was treated by a group of professionals and didnt see any issues. 

 

Den

 

 

The waiters in Eden were making the drinks during Happy Hour. Numerous times there were no real bartenders. They brought us a 12 year old McCallum scotch with an olive and a lime slice....My wife ordered a typical margarita at the Sunset Bar and the "bartender" had to get a book out. It took our party of 6 almost 20 minutes to get drinks at Cafe al Bacio at 7pm or so on more than one occasion. EVERY time we wanted to order wine in any of the MDR's or specialty restaurants, the waiter tried to take our order. We had to request a sommelier and a wine list. 

Let me be clear, EVERY employee we came in contact with was very nice. The issue was most of them had little experience and it was easy to see. Most of the crew that I spoke to were on their first contract with Celebrity, with most leaving in the spring and not coming back.     

 

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We had only one bad experience last year on edge a very inexperienced waitress took our cards in martini bar area took about 30 mins to return then she gave my wife the wrong key card back we didn’t realize until we were getting off the ship the next day , it was good indicating suite , rest of the staff were great .

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Great review! Thank you!

 

I was curious if you feel you received a better table when the butler made reservations for you. I am happy to make our reservations, unless like you, we can't find the time we want. However, I also wondered if going through the butler perhaps increases our chances of being seated by a window, etc.

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2 hours ago, rwf1 said:

Great review! Thank you!

 

I was curious if you feel you received a better table when the butler made reservations for you. I am happy to make our reservations, unless like you, we can't find the time we want. However, I also wondered if going through the butler perhaps increases our chances of being seated by a window, etc.

I don’t think so, but could be. We had good seats! Didn’t think about that. One thing that happened was when we had an issue of waiting for the very extended time for breakfast in Luminae, and my Butler asked us how all was going, I mentioned that. He wrote it down. A day later, when we went to Luminae, the staff was all around us and we have Great service.

 

Coincidence? I’ve give my Butler the edge on that one. And I tipped him the extra for all he did for us. 

 

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52 minutes ago, Denny01 said:

I don’t think so, but could be. We had good seats! Didn’t think about that. One thing that happened was when we had an issue of waiting for the very extended time for breakfast in Luminae, and my Butler asked us how all was going, I mentioned that. He wrote it down. A day later, when we went to Luminae, the staff was all around us and we have Great service.

 

Coincidence? I’ve give my Butler the edge on that one. And I tipped him the extra for all he did for us. 

 

Den

Agree we struggle to get to breakfast before they close.

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We were in a Royal Suite on the Reflection.  Everyday we would have room service for Breakfast and always dined in the Specialty restaurants.   The only time we went to Luminae was disembarkation day for breakfast.  
 

It was rather busy.   We both ordered omelets.  My wife also ordered bacon, and a bagel and I ordered biscuits and gravy and Kielbasa.   Others were seated after us, served breakfast, ate, left and we were still waiting.   Those around us would look at us confused as they noticed us just waiting since  they ordered after us, were served and eating.  Some also made comments to us about it.    Our server seemed to disappear.   I thought it might be because we didn’t dine there during the cruise and the  servers didn’t know us.  I flagged down another server and asked about our breakfast.   He found our server and sent him over.   He said it was taking longer because they had to prepare the Kielbasa as there wasn’t  enough cooked.   I told him that he should have told me about the problem and I would have ordered something else.  It took another 15 minutes before we were served and most of it was cold.  
 

I learned to tell the server if there is a problem to let us know and not keep us waiting twiddling our thumbs.    

 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

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1 hour ago, miched said:

We were in a Royal Suite on the Reflection.  Everyday we would have room service for Breakfast and always dined in the Specialty restaurants.   The only time we went to Luminae was disembarkation day for breakfast.  
 

It was rather busy.   We both ordered omelets.  My wife also ordered bacon, and a bagel and I ordered biscuits and gravy and Kielbasa.   Others were seated after us, served breakfast, ate, left and we were still waiting.   Those around us would look at us confused as they noticed us just waiting since  they ordered after us, were served and eating.  Some also made comments to us about it.    Our server seemed to disappear.   I thought it might be because we didn’t dine there during the cruise and the  servers didn’t know us.  I flagged down another server and asked about our breakfast.   He found our server and sent him over.   He said it was taking longer because they had to prepare the Kielbasa as there wasn’t  enough cooked.   I told him that he should have told me about the problem and I would have ordered something else.  It took another 15 minutes before we were served and most of it was cold.  
 

I learned to tell the server if there is a problem to let us know and not keep us waiting twiddling our thumbs.    

 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

I like most foods in Luminae but thought there breakfast biscuits were as hard as hockey pucks.

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On 11/8/2022 at 6:48 PM, Denny01 said:

I don’t think so, but could be. We had good seats! Didn’t think about that. One thing that happened was when we had an issue of waiting for the very extended time for breakfast in Luminae, and my Butler asked us how all was going, I mentioned that. He wrote it down. A day later, when we went to Luminae, the staff was all around us and we have Great service.

 

Coincidence? I’ve give my Butler the edge on that one. And I tipped him the extra for all he did for us. 

 

Den

 

Thanks for the reply!

 

Nice to know what a proactive butler is able to do for you! I agree the improved service could have been a coincidence, but seems unlikely.

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21 hours ago, George C said:

I like most foods in Luminae but thought there breakfast biscuits were as hard as hockey pucks.

 On our last cruise our server told us they were either English style  or European style and not southern American.   They are a once per cruise thing just for variety.  
 

Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

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On 11/8/2022 at 8:42 AM, Denny01 said:

As posted on the previous thread about our overall Edge TransAtlantic cruise, we booked a Sky Suite for the 1st time and thought we’d share comments focused on that.

 

Again, we’ve cruised 42 times and 28 with Celebrity so you know my biases. I book with Celebrity as primary and go with other Lines for itineraries or join friends. We usually go with a balcony and on Edge Class, we like the Infinite Veranda.

 

We booked a Sky Suite 2 on the Edge TransAtlantic to experience the Retreat with so many sea days. And it greatly exceeded our expectations.

 

SR:

We had SR 9178. Midship and a Sky Suite 2. Larger than a standard SR and the bed is against the BR but faces the veranda, not an opposite wall (well bulkhead on a ship!). One side of the bed has USB and plug outlet. Loved the bed setup! Lots of drawers and good closet for hanging items. Large couch and great SR to add a 3rd person. BR was large. Square tub and shower with glass enclosure. Euro shower head. Closed toilet. Large sink with 2 facets and lots of storage. Odd thing: the mirror over the sink opens to the SR area. You can see the veranda/sea when you are at the sink…..I told my wife I could watch her shower without stepping in!! She wasn’t impressed with my idea. SR is quiet and mid between the front and back elevators (a bit closer to the fwd).

 

Butler and SR Staff:

One word: Outstanding! The butler, (GeDe ‘Goodday’) was the one thing I wasn’t sure of and he really added to our experience. Saw him every day, he got us reservations at the various dining venues and when we could only get 8:30pm at Eden, he called and got us what we wanted at 6:30pm. Took care of minor issues and gave us good gouge on using the facilities. I had No Idea what I’d do with a butler and it is one of the major reasons I loved going Suite/Retreat.

 

Retreat:

Loved the lounge. Although the ship was 68% full, suites were fully booked, but there was never a crowd in the Retreat areas. They had light snacks in the morning and afternoons; excellent and quick waitstaff and I tried more than a few ‘exotic’ cocktails. Played cards. Met others and had a great time. The hosts were personable and very helpful. They had entertainers and ship staff come up and socialize a bit. The outside Retreat area is just fantastic. Lots of lounging, great bar, didnt do the pool or hot tub but it appeared to be very nice. Lots of space for all. Again, well above what I expected.

 

Dining Luminae:

Very elegant venue. Seated immediately whether 2, 4 or 6 of us. Enjoyed, but it has a more limited choice of appetizers and entrees than the MDRs. We enjoyed the MDRs more. As Suite, we could dine at the MDRs and Blu which is for Aqua Class, as available. Our butler got us set in two of the MDRs, our favorites of Normandie and Cypress and we loved them. Blu was also excellent. Enjoyed Luminae but there were issues beyond the more limited menu. For breakfast, we waited an hr to be served. And I knew the time we entered and when served…..not the classic exaggeration. Was about to leave when they brought it. Dinner was better serviced, but still longer than in the other venues. I would Not go Suite for the dining, but since you can go to other venues, it wasn’t a show-stopper, and did enjoy Luminae items we did order, just more limited choices. You can order off the menus of the MDRs but it wasn’t offered and it was a pain….for us. This was the one issue we had with Suite/Retreat.

 

Boarding/Departing:

Wow. At Civitavecchia, they had a separate boarding area with seating, a bar and light food. Didn’t use it since you could step on immediately. Not that different from the standard boarding, all very quick. By the way, we board as standard guests at the FLL terminal on an Apex cruise last Nov and it was Very Quick also.

Departure was the real difference. We had boarding tags that allowed us to depart very early, right after they announce those that were departing with all the luggage, or we could stay until 9:30ish at the end. Went to the Retreat lounge and relaxed there. They had light breakfast and service, and the hosts let us know when our luggage was available which was at 8. Then escorted us to the elevator and the other hosts were at the elevator landing to escort us to departure. Out we went, got our luggage and passed quickly through security. We used a local taxi and they were available immediately. I Do Not recommend using the ship shuttle buses; the taxi was $25 for the two of us and was quick and right to our terminal. Buses wait to be filled and the one time we did it in FLL, they dropped us off at one spot and had to walk a goodly distance. Not handy and more expensive. No reason to do that.

 

Finally:

Are we now Suite/Retreaters? If I can get one at a reasonable cost (that is always subjective isn’t it) and If one is available! We are booked for 4 Celebrity cruises and none….again None….have Suites available. The plus beyond standard SRs is the SR its self, larger, nice veranda and bed facing it; and yes, the butler; and the Retreat lounge and staff. All well worth it. Dining, which is So subjective, wasn’t a hallmark. But so many other options area available, and Luminae was good enough for us to use a number of times, just not a major draw….again for us. I hate telling people to use or not use some dining venue since dining opinions are so biased.

 

Enough. We love standard SRs, and yes, love the Edge Class Infinite Veranda, but if one is available, we will go with a Sky Suite!

 

Den

Thanks for the review. We have done Edge and Apex numerous time in Sky Suite and loved it. Doing Beyond this coming Sunday and can't wait.

 

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On 11/8/2022 at 2:45 PM, Super_Tuscan said:

The waiters in Eden were making the drinks during Happy Hour. Numerous times there were no real bartenders. They brought us a 12 year old McCallum scotch with an olive and a lime slice....My wife ordered a typical margarita at the Sunset Bar and the "bartender" had to get a book out. It took our party of 6 almost 20 minutes to get drinks at Cafe al Bacio at 7pm or so on more than one occasion. EVERY time we wanted to order wine in any of the MDR's or specialty restaurants, the waiter tried to take our order. We had to request a sommelier and a wine list. 

Let me be clear, EVERY employee we came in contact with was very nice. The issue was most of them had little experience and it was easy to see. Most of the crew that I spoke to were on their first contract with Celebrity, with most leaving in the spring and not coming back.     

 

SDT

We were also on this cruise and totally agree with Shaun that there was a lack of experience among the the staff.  Nothing blatant, but a mix up in ordering drinks and coffees, especially in Cafe Bacchio and Eden.  We were not in a suite, but a sunset balcony because we prefer  a real balcony over the infinite one.

 

We will definitely not sail on this Edge class Celebrity ship again.  The food in the four main dining rooms was all basically the same menu,  mostly very good, but a few choices not great.  We ate in Eden one night and found the food and service excellent.  However, the loud music coming down from the entertainment on the floor above made it impossible  to have any table conversation.  We cancelled our second booked night.  We missed  the forward lounge (constellation/sky lounge) found on Celebrity’s smaller ships. This front area is now part of the Retreat—-suite package.  Rather than pay the additional price for a Celebrity suite we will stick with Viking Ocean and enjoy their Explorers Lounge in the front.  
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1 hour ago, jmfdr said:

We were also on this cruise and totally agree with Shaun that there was a lack of experience among the the staff.  Nothing blatant, but a mix up in ordering drinks and coffees, especially in Cafe Bacchio and Eden.  We were not in a suite, but a sunset balcony because we prefer  a real balcony over the infinite one.

 

We will definitely not sail on this Edge class Celebrity ship again.  The food in the four main dining rooms was all basically the same menu,  mostly very good, but a few choices not great.  We ate in Eden one night and found the food and service excellent.  However, the loud music coming down from the entertainment on the floor above made it impossible  to have any table conversation.  We cancelled our second booked night.  We missed  the forward lounge (constellation/sky lounge) found on Celebrity’s smaller ships. This front area is now part of the Retreat—-suite package.  Rather than pay the additional price for a Celebrity suite we will stick with Viking Ocean and enjoy their Explorers Lounge in the front.  
jan

We just got off of the Equinox.   It seemed as if the Foyer was the main area of entertainment.   No matter what deck you were on the sound level was very loud as it blasted throughout  the open area to all of the decks above.  You could hear them in the Library.   At times it was so loud that you couldn’t carry on a conversation at the Martini Bar. Thankfully we were in a suite and we had the Retreat.  That is a great name as we could have a drink in a relaxed, quiet atmosphere and social with others 
 

i don’t know what the thinking is but I think they want to gravitate towards Carnival.  
 

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