Sun Princess - Original

[Astro Flyer]

This OZ/NZ presentation was more informative for me than the Princess US webinars. It did peak my interest somewhat although not enough to book Sun. After reading about onboard experiences I’ll decide whether to book or not.

 

At the end a question about coffeemakers shown in artist renderings was asked & I’ve read posts asking this question. He said that all suites will have them but as of now he thinks it would be upon request for other cabins. Whether there will be enough for each cabin that won’t be known until the ship sails. My guess is they will not have enough for each cabin or they would have them in every cabin.

 

[dides]

Most of the information has actually been covered by Richard Parker before in his presentations - almost word for word in fact. As well as the coffeemaker answer as mentioned above, I noticed some additional nuggets/nuances:

- the secret black door was mentioned as being "adjacent to crooners". Which almost confirms it as being that Coming Soon area next to the Casino on deck 8. aka The Magic Hour Bar on the cruisemapper deck plan.
- the promenade deck actually flows from mid-ship to aft - well we knew it wasn't 360.

- the MDR room starts with more traditional dining and a longer seating time on deck 6 and gets faster as you go up to deck 8 (a slightly different description of the dining experiences from before).
- even though it's on the cabana stateroom layout, this is the first mention that there will be a multi-leaf door leading from the cabana to the balcony

 

And there was an additional rendering of the Lido deck pool from the other end:

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by dides

[katmu]

2 hours ago, Astro Flyer said:

This OZ/NZ presentation was more informative for me than the Princess US webinars. It did peak my interest somewhat although not enough to book Sun. After reading about onboard experiences I’ll decide whether to book or not.

 

At the end a question about coffeemakers shown in artist renderings was asked & I’ve read posts asking this question. He said that all suites will have them but as of now he thinks it would be upon request for other cabins. Whether there will be enough for each cabin that won’t be known until the ship sails. My guess is they will not have enough for each cabin or they would have them in every cabin.

 

I can see the coffeemakers being one of those things where they eventually need to add them to all of the cabins, or wouldn’t there be an uproar?

[snoozecrooze]

Just a minor PSA-

Princess and HAL stand to be just some of the winners from Celebrity's abrupt cancelation of the Beyond's summer 2024 itineraries in Europe so I'd recommend anybody who's been targeting (but not yet committed to) a Sun Princess sailing during peak season to watch them closely.

[Musky Ike]

On 6/26/2023 at 11:40 AM, louden said:

  I was hesitant abut now getting excited with what we saw.

Same here. We made a booking for next year and am now more convinced it was a good idea. There is still a lot to be know and possible changes but I am anxious to hear the first hand reports and to be onboard and explore for myself after she comes over to this side of the pond.

[antsp]

What was everyone's thoughts on the Cirque show, will it be a up charge like msc

[PacnGoNow]

1 minute ago, antsp said:

What was everyone's thoughts on the Cirque show, will it be a up charge like msc

Good question.  I hope not.  What does MSC charge?

[antsp]

From memory it was €15,that includes a dubious watery cocktail 

[snoozecrooze]

51 minutes ago, antsp said:

What was everyone's thoughts on the Cirque show

I don't think it will be for an upcharge (but that could obviously change). As much as they're integrating a few "ship-within-a-ship" concepts here and there, much of the ship's public areas actually seem quite open. We'll see how it goes when the ship comes out.

 

As an aside, P&O doesn't charge for their evening dome shows either and I feel like Princess and P&O tend to be on similar wavelengths.

[vividharp]

It would be very unfortunate to make the shows an upcharge. Hopefully they do not go in that direction. 

[antsp]

4 hours ago, vividharp said:

It would be very unfortunate to make the shows an upcharge. Hopefully they do not go in that direction. 

Absolutely agree.

[Nemanoxer]

8 hours ago, antsp said:

What was everyone's thoughts on the Cirque show, will it be a up charge like msc

 

MSC stands for more Most SurCharges. Just try to not fall for that so called cruise line. 

Edited June 28, 2023 by Nemanoxer

[beg3yrs]

I watched the presentation as well. What I've missed is any mention of how the build is doing with regards to schedule. I ask this for a couple of reasons.

 

We've booked the June 1st sailing out of Barcelona and I just read an article about the latest Behemoth of the Seas (the Oasis) going out on her first sea trials. She's scheduled to start sailing with passengers in January. The Sun Princess is scheduled to start sailing in February and she doesn't look anywhere near ready for sea trials, even in a month or so.

 

Of course I'm not a ship project manager but one would think build schedules for these large ships would be similar to some extent. That is a concern to me especially as Princess has been mum on this topic.

 

Any of you insiders have better info?

[Wishing on a star]

There is that photo posted a couple pages back, taken mid June, that seems to show the ship is really coming along.  The Sea Witch is there.   Still some buildout on the cabns and upper areas.   That could go fairly quickly.

 

Of course, I know absolutely nothing, But, I am not thinking that they are afraid of any delays, yet.

Only time will tell.

[Wishing on a star]

Okay, having thought more about the Sanctuary, it seems that it will only have side views of the sea, as the aft is the Signature area.  

That might be okay, but the talk of the Sanctuary Cabanas being along the side, with sea views is a real concern.   Would Princess actually take the entire length of both sides and line them, and block them off with Cabanas, so that nobody else, having rented loungers, is able to access a sea view?

 

I certainly hope not.

But, they surely did ruin the Retreat Pool on the new ships by completely blocking it in.  So, Princess is not above stooping to such a low.

 

Maybe some of the Port and Starboard will be open...  maybe with the small open access sitting areas, like the Sanctuaries currently have.

 

The fact that this will be the only 'adult only' pool, is already a real factor.

Hopefully a complete lack of any view or feeling of being on the see isn't a huge drawback.

 

Edited June 28, 2023 by Wishing on a star

[voljeep]

On 6/26/2023 at 5:14 PM, dides said:

Most of the information has actually been covered by Richard Parker before in his presentations - almost word for word in fact. As well as the coffeemaker answer as mentioned above, I noticed some additional nuggets/nuances:

- the secret black door was mentioned as being "adjacent to crooners". Which almost confirms it as being that Coming Soon area next to the Casino on deck 8. aka The Magic Hour Bar on the cruisemapper deck plan.
- the promenade deck actually flows from mid-ship to aft - well we knew it wasn't 360.

- the MDR room starts with more traditional dining and a longer seating time on deck 6 and gets faster as you go up to deck 8 (a slightly different description of the dining experiences from before).
- even though it's on the cabana stateroom layout, this is the first mention that there will be a multi-leaf door leading from the cabana to the balcony

 

And there was an additional rendering of the Lido deck pool from the other end:

 

 

 

do any of those Lido deck pools - or other main pools - have walk in steps with a handrail? - or are they all just with ladders?

[antsp]

Anyone thoughts on the insides, on some deck they look bigger than a standard width cabin, 50% bigger, is that correct or just the deck plans

[Jemnibabe02]

21 minutes ago, antsp said:

Anyone thoughts on the insides, on some deck they look bigger than a standard width cabin, 50% bigger, is that correct or just the deck plans

Probably handicapped cabins

[antsp]

Just now, Jemnibabe02 said:

Probably handicapped cabins

No, shows available to anyone

[snoozecrooze]

2 hours ago, voljeep said:

- or are they all just with ladders?

I believe there are only ladders, unfortunately, at least in the renderings I remember.

 

19 minutes ago, antsp said:

Anyone thoughts on the insides, on some deck they look bigger than a standard width cabin, 50% bigger, is that correct or just the deck plans

Believe it or not, the average square footage on the insides for Sun compared to Discovery, for example, is actually 20 sq ft less. Or maybe it's not so unbelievable since that's the industry trend (cramming cabins and people on ships). 

 

Your best bet for a "cheat" is maybe one of the very few oblong shaped interior cabins sprinkled throughout (like 12102).

[antsp]

3 minutes ago, snoozecrooze said:

I believe there are only ladders, unfortunately, at least in the renderings I remember.

 

Believe it or not, the average square footage on the insides for Sun compared to Discovery, for example, is actually 20 sq ft less. Or maybe it's not so unbelievable since that's the industry trend (cramming cabins and people on ships). 

 

Your best bet for a "cheat" is maybe one of the very few oblong shaped interior cabins sprinkled throughout (like 12102).

I was looking at 06440

[PacnGoNow]

5 minutes ago, antsp said:

I was looking at 06440

Looks like the renderings are way off.

 

Click on the cabin, 6440…shows 145 sq ft

across from it the Cove balcony shows 

236 sq ft.  

[snoozecrooze]

17 minutes ago, antsp said:

I was looking at 06440

Got it. I see what you mean now. I think you can check these videos out for just a slight analogous example:

 

Carnival Mardi Gras has typical-looking interior cabins that you see on the deck plan (as shown here for room 5235): 

 

And then you have numerous "square" cabins that are basically just wider but narrower in length (as shown here for room 9483):

 

They're supposed to be the same/similar square footage, but basically configured differently, which can give you the illusion of more space based on how things are positioned in the cabin (example: closet)

[liamur14]

We were looking to book Med 2024 on the Sun, but it looks Huge. We are seniors, so I think I will book the Island Princess 20-Day Grand Mediterranean Explorer, Sept 25 th, Rome to Venice. Anyone one else?

Edited July 4, 2023 by liamur14
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[PacnGoNow]

4 minutes ago, liamur14 said:

We were looking to book Med 2024 on the Sun, but it looks Huge. We are seniors, so I think I will book the Island Princess 20-Day Grand Mediterranean Explorer, Sept 25 th, Rome to Venice. Anyone one else?

You have a roll call on the 1st 10 nights: