Rare Megabear2 Posted January 17, 2023 Author #201 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, majortom10 said: After many requests by staff nothing changed That sadly still appears to be the common theme for this type of thing. Large extended groups also seem to be another and it's sad those being inconvenienced or made uncomfortable are disregarded as villains rather than the people making the problems. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulatsea Posted January 17, 2023 #202 Share Posted January 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, majortom10 said: Not necessarily because once Arcadia and Aurora were bigger ships. The only really upsetting scenes of drunken behaviour in all the cruises we have done was in Carmen's Lounge on Aurora where an extended family used to eat first sitting and then head for Carmen's for the duration of the night. Every night they got drunk were very loud with the kids running around the dance floor when acts were performing. After many requests by staff nothing changed and by 11pm people were heading into Carmen's for second show and couldn't get a seat because all the children were lying on them asleep. Nothing to do with size of ship and was before drinks packages it is just purely down to the people onboard. Thankfully both ships are adults only now !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted January 17, 2023 #203 Share Posted January 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, paulatsea said: Thankfully both ships are adults only now !! So you still get adults who can be drunk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted January 17, 2023 #204 Share Posted January 17, 2023 In a pub or club on land it is against the law to provide alcohol to a person who is drunk, what are the rules on cruise ships in particular the Carnival Group? Are waiters instructed not to bring drinks to those who are obviously drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 17, 2023 #205 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Snow Hill said: In a pub or club on land it is against the law to provide alcohol to a person who is drunk, what are the rules on cruise ships in particular the Carnival Group? Are waiters instructed not to bring drinks to those who are obviously drunk? In 30 or so cruises we have only seen a couple of passengers who had obviously had a few too many. Perhaps this is blown out of all proportion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted January 18, 2023 #206 Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 hours ago, zap99 said: In 30 or so cruises we have only seen a couple of passengers who had obviously had a few too many. Perhaps this is blown out of all proportion. I have see multiple cases of drunkenness on cruises I have been on, I was up close to one cases on a Gala night a few years ago where the table next to us in the MDR with 3 couples who went through a number of bottles of wine and abused the crew members waiting on the table eventually after a period security finally turned up and removed them. Their antics and disrespect for staff and other passengers spoilt the night for many. It was noticeable that the couples we not seen again in the MDR for the remainder of the cruise. It was said on our table that they had been removed from the ship due to multiple complaints, no idea whether this was true or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted January 18, 2023 #207 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, majortom10 said: Not necessarily because once Arcadia and Aurora were bigger ships. The only really upsetting scenes of drunken behaviour in all the cruises we have done was in Carmen's Lounge on Aurora where an extended family used to eat first sitting and then head for Carmen's for the duration of the night. Every night they got drunk were very loud with the kids running around the dance floor when acts were performing. After many requests by staff nothing changed and by 11pm people were heading into Carmen's for second show and couldn't get a seat because all the children were lying on them asleep. Nothing to do with size of ship and was before drinks packages it is just purely down to the people onboard. That's why I said . . " "Going back to the ships most (but not all) seem to be on the bigger ships and party style . Maybe that explains why sleepy old Saga and ships like Arcadia seem to dodge these problems . " I do agree it can happen anywhere that's why I put (but not all) The point I was hoping to make is make something bigger that's any venue and add a bit of alcohol to the mix it needs managing . If I go to a tiny village pub or a big town centre venue then the latter is most likely to have some sort of policing /security nearby . Of course the tiny pub could have trouble. Thankfully it's not an everyday problem on P&O as some testify they have never seen any trouble but when it does arise lets hope for appropriate action . You make a good point with the so called parenting and child control of some ,which again could lead to friction . This again could happen anywhere not just on a ship ,so what's the answer to it ? Edited January 18, 2023 by kalos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doog442 Posted January 18, 2023 #208 Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Yorkypete said: We are going to Malta in March for 2 weeks at a 4* hotel, full board (inc drinks) with guaranteed sunshine for under £2000. Much cheaper than any cruise. P&O are not good value as I can get this type of holiday in many places. My point was specifically about the Caribbean where these cruises are excellent value at the moment compared to most land based holidays. Well the headline rate is but as we know once you add on drinks, trips, internet package or a balcony it all adds up. If you're a non drinker happy with an inside cabin who can DIY any port / island trips then the price with flights included is pretty exceptional. I'd agree about the Med however but then we drill down into what a cruise actually offers. For me the Med is all about the itinerary and being transported from A to B to C around Europe, its still pretty cost effective in that regard. Of course if you want to sit on a beach then yes far cheaper out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted January 18, 2023 #209 Share Posted January 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, kalos said: That's why I said . . " "Going back to the ships most (but not all) seem to be on the bigger ships and party style . Maybe that explains why sleepy old Saga and ships like Arcadia seem to dodge these problems . " I do agree it can happen anywhere that's why I put (but not all) The point I was hoping to make is make something bigger that's any venue and add a bit of alcohol to the mix it needs managing . If I go to a tiny village pub or a big town centre venue then the latter is most likely to have some sort of policing /security nearby . Of course the tiny pub could have trouble. Thankfully it's not an everyday problem on P&O as some testify they have never seen any trouble but when it does arise lets hope for appropriate action . You make a good point with the so called parenting and child control of some ,which again could lead to friction . This again could happen anywhere not just on a ship ,so what's the answer to it ? I don’t think there is an answer Kalos. Sadly in all walks of life there is a percentage of people who don’t care one iota how their behaviour affects others. Sometimes it just doesn’t cross their mind but with some, they are just downright selfish (I.e. I’m going to enjoy my holiday no matter what attitude). I do agree that these incidents on ships are thankfully rare, but if it happens to you, then it must be extremely unpleasant. As a solo traveller I cruise because 99% of the time it is a very safe environment - if that perception changes, then I will think again! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkypete Posted January 18, 2023 #210 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, doog442 said: My point was specifically about the Caribbean where these cruises are excellent value at the moment compared to most land based holidays. Well the headline rate is but as we know once you add on drinks, trips, internet package or a balcony it all adds up. If you're a non drinker happy with an inside cabin who can DIY any port / island trips then the price with flights included is pretty exceptional. I'd agree about the Med however but then we drill down into what a cruise actually offers. For me the Med is all about the itinerary and being transported from A to B to C around Europe, its still pretty cost effective in that regard. Of course if you want to sit on a beach then yes far cheaper out there. Malta is more for the history loving traveller as there are really only a couple of beaches on the island. I could not bear just lying in the sun all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 18, 2023 #211 Share Posted January 18, 2023 11 hours ago, zap99 said: In 30 or so cruises we have only seen a couple of passengers who had obviously had a few too many. Perhaps this is blown out of all proportion. The only time I have seen people drunk was when I saw a group come out of the Suite Lounge on RCL independence of the seas at 8.30pm after consuming unlimited free drinks. Fortunately they were good natured. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted January 18, 2023 #212 Share Posted January 18, 2023 18 hours ago, Megabear2 said: I have no idea what a reasonable drinking night out costs ashore or on-board but I asked a member of the family who's a teacher in her 30s and apparently they don't turn a hair at £100 to £150. I was astonished but I assume they budget it in on holiday too. I was in Wetherspoons last night with my mates who we are going on a cruise with later this week. Cost me less than £12 for 5 really good craft beers. If I'd eaten there as well would have been less than £20. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 18, 2023 #213 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, kalos said: That's why I said . . " "Going back to the ships most (but not all) seem to be on the bigger ships and party style . Maybe that explains why sleepy old Saga and ships like Arcadia seem to dodge these problems . " I do agree it can happen anywhere that's why I put (but not all) The point I was hoping to make is make something bigger that's any venue and add a bit of alcohol to the mix it needs managing . If I go to a tiny village pub or a big town centre venue then the latter is most likely to have some sort of policing /security nearby . Of course the tiny pub could have trouble. Thankfully it's not an everyday problem on P&O as some testify they have never seen any trouble but when it does arise lets hope for appropriate action . You make a good point with the so called parenting and child control of some ,which again could lead to friction . This again could happen anywhere not just on a ship ,so what's the answer to it ? On Royal Caribbean terms and conditions it clearly sets out sensible drinking policy and any abuses would result in put off the ship and you would have to pay for your own transport home. Some people have been locked in their cabins with security stationed outside the cabin. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulatsea Posted January 18, 2023 #214 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, grapau27 said: On Royal Caribbean terms and conditions it clearly sets out sensible drinking policy and any abuses would result in put off the ship and you would have to pay for your own transport home. Some people have been locked in their cabins with security stationed outside the cabin. Good to hear. Wish p&o did the same - consistently. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted January 18, 2023 #215 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I have travelled solo for 20 years including over 70 cruises. Yes, I have seen the occasional instance of anti social behaviour but nothing bad enough to stop me continuing to enjoy my travelling. That's life. It looks like time to end this debate as it is getting a bit personal and achieving nothing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 18, 2023 #216 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Fionboard said: I have travelled solo for 20 years including over 70 cruises. Yes, I have seen the occasional instance of anti social behaviour but nothing bad enough to stop me continuing to enjoy my travelling. That's life. It looks like time to end this debate as it is getting a bit personal and achieving nothing. Your right. It's getting a bit repetitive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted January 18, 2023 #217 Share Posted January 18, 2023 After having a read of this read, beginning to wonder how our cruise will go this weekend. We paid £629pp for two weeks. A total of eight of us going. We've all got £300 obc per cabin. Although none of us intend getting the drinks package, are we a recipe for drunken obnoxiousness? 😲😇 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showingdiva Posted January 18, 2023 #218 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Son of Anarchy said: After having a read of this read, beginning to wonder how our cruise will go this weekend. We paid £629pp for two weeks. A total of eight of us going. We've all got £300 obc per cabin. Although none of us intend getting the drinks package, are we a recipe for drunken obnoxiousness? 😲😇 With all that OBC, yes .. yes, you probably are. But most importantly, have a great cruise, and remember that the bigger the ship, the more likely you are to be able to find a bit of deck or a lifeboat to lie face down and sleep it all off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalos Posted January 18, 2023 #219 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Son of Anarchy said: After having a read of this read, beginning to wonder how our cruise will go this weekend. We paid £629pp for two weeks. A total of eight of us going. We've all got £300 obc per cabin. Although none of us intend getting the drinks package, are we a recipe for drunken obnoxiousness? 😲😇 Have a great time which I'm sure you will . Just a pity cruise ships don't do Wetherspoons😉🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted January 18, 2023 #220 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, paulatsea said: This thread is about problems people here have experienced and have shared with us. Its not about the lack of incidents generally. Im not sure you fully understand this - I’m not interested in your view of how many incidents or lack of them there are. I’m interested in what people here have experienced and on what ship and what happened. Sorry I don't interest you.😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waju Posted January 18, 2023 #221 Share Posted January 18, 2023 So to sum it all up - Some of us have been on the receiving end of bad behaviour Some haven't Some of us have witnessed bad behaviour Some haven't Some of us like P&O Some don't Some of us are nice to other people Some aren't Play nicely everyone and have a lovely afternoon 😇 15 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardennais Posted January 18, 2023 #222 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Waju said: So to sum it all up - Some of us have been on the receiving end of bad behaviour Some haven't Some of us have witnessed bad behaviour Some haven't Some of us like P&O Some don't Some of us are nice to other people Some aren't Play nicely everyone and have a lovely afternoon 😇 I used to say something similar after a trying day in the classroom! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 18, 2023 #223 Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 hours ago, zap99 said: Sorry I don't interest you.😪 Don't worry John. I know you are a really nice guy after meeting you on RCL Anthem of the seas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Sharon Posted January 19, 2023 #224 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ok, this thread is now going nowhere useful. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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