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It is also not showing 9/27 Can/NE which is part of a series.

Really bad introduction to Crystal 2.0. Not impressed.

 

The cruise from Mia to Lax and Lax to PPT in January would be pretty important as well as the rest of the WC.

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16 minutes ago, cruisr said:

It is also not showing 9/27 Can/NE which is part of a series.

Really bad introduction to Crystal 2.0. Not impressed.

 

The cruise from Mia to Lax and Lax to PPT in January would be pretty important as well as the rest of the WC.

It's legitimately hilarious that you're upset about a website taking more than nine seconds to be fully live.

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Looks like there is no Japanese restaurants on either ship! And unless they've reconfigured and updated Avenue on Serenity, it still shows those 🤯🤯🤯🤯poles that everyone hates, as well as the filthy "white" chairs in the Cove.......did they just cut and paste? 

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First blush:

 

Solo cruises who don't need a veranda should be most pleased.  I'd take a hard look.

 

For couples, the step-up from veranda balcony to Aquamarine(old PH) is tempting.

 

  I can't tell if Crystal is now bundling port & taxes. Further analysis in the morning required.

 

And yes, a lot of cruises on the "cheat sheets" are not on the website yet.   

  

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5 minutes ago, HUNKY said:

Great to see that the pricing is reasonable!

$500 per night for an entry level cabin of 215 sqft is reasonable?

 

Compared to pre Covid, prices increased by 60-70%. I wouldn't call it reasonable.

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They’re obviously finding this to be more challenging than they expected!

 

I’m confident that things will run more smoothly once we step onboard. In fact, I’ve heard that exact comment, about multiple cruise lines. 
 

I love that the basic veranda cabin is barely more than the deck seven. And I agree with Larry, the Aquamarine is a reasonable increase, too.

 

Remember, you all do you, I’ll do me. 

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8 minutes ago, suzeluvscruz said:

Looks like there is no Japanese restaurants on either ship! And unless they've reconfigured and updated Avenue on Serenity, it still shows those 🤯🤯🤯🤯poles that everyone hates, as well as the filthy "white" chairs in the Cove.......did they just cut and paste? 

 

We already know there will be sushi restaurants on both ships.  The poles in the Serenity Avenue are structural, preferable to the deck above caving in on a performance.  Little premature to make conclusions about the soft goods. In other words:

 

 

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11 minutes ago, doglover214 said:

Where are the Serenity cruises from January to June????

A big chunk of that will be the 2024 World Cruise, which I suspect has not been "nailed down" yet. That is what we will be looking for when it is released. Where that ends will determine the rest of the open dates. Given Serenity will be in Alaska Summer 2024, my best WAG (Wild Assed Guess) is the WC may well end in Miami in maybe April.

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5 minutes ago, ak1004 said:

$500 per night for an entry level cabin of 215 sqft is reasonable?

 

Compared to pre Covid, prices increased by 60-70%. I wouldn't call it reasonable.

Possibly not, but I would call it sustainable. Fact is, they need to price at a level that at least "pays the bills". Not sure the pre-Covid prices were doing that.

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18 minutes ago, suzeluvscruz said:

Looks like there is no Japanese restaurants on either ship! And unless they've reconfigured and updated Avenue on Serenity, it still shows those 🤯🤯🤯🤯poles that everyone hates, as well as the filthy "white" chairs in the Cove.......did they just cut and paste? 


The space for Silk Road/Umi Uma (ie, Nobu) is unlabeled, as is the casino. Why is unclear. I think it's pretty likely that there will be a Sushi forward speciality restaurant on both ships, but it's very possible it gets in house branding and a new menu, a new partnership, or a renewed Nobu partnership.

The casino is a bigger question mark. There's no galley there. It would be hard to turn it into a restaraunt, especially with the renewed nightclub on Symphony. But what else to put there if not a casino. Not sure another lounge would be useful.

As for the Cove... it's highly unlikely either ship is currently in a photographable state right now; if they had the final furniture in place they'd be sailing next month not the end of summer. I'm sure they used representative old photos where relevant and new renders where enough changed. "New chairs" probably isn't enough to ditch the old photo when the space is likely to be substantively unchanged.

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2 minutes ago, Roland4 said:

Possibly not, but I would call it sustainable. Fact is, they need to price at a level that at least "pays the bills". Not sure the pre-Covid prices were doing that.

 

Yes, but they also need to be competitive with other lines. Charging more for 215 sqft cabins than SS and SB charge for 300 sqft cabins is not exactly being competitive.

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Just now, ak1004 said:

 

Yes, but they also need to be competitive with other lines. Charging more for 215 sqft cabins than SS and SB charge for 300 sqft cabins is not exactly being competitive.

 

Guess it depends on how you look at things.  I'm buying a cruise vacation, not renting office space.

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Just now, ak1004 said:

 

Yes, but they also need to be competitive with other lines. Charging more for 215 sqft cabins than SS and SB charge for 300 sqft cabins is not exactly being competitive.

You are comparing apples and pomegranates! Keep in mind that many (most) are not driven by cabin size. My best clients (almost 50 cruises in ten years) are perfectly happy in an Inside room as long as it is near the library! Many who post on this board are quite content in a room on Deck 7. Personally, we prefer whatever they now call the PH/PS, but that is just us, and I don't find that pricing that terribly out of line to what we have paid on SS/SB/Regent for cruise of late.

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Not bad pricing if they still continue to include the gratuities in the base fare, and each guest is still allowed 2 devices to access their unlimited internet services. Their cancellation fees prior to final payment are also much more reasonable than the “old” Crystal policy.

 

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14 minutes ago, Embowaf said:


The space for Silk Road/Umi Uma (ie, Nobu) is unlabeled, as is the casino. Why is unclear. I think it's pretty likely that there will be a Sushi forward speciality restaurant on both ships, but it's very possible it gets in house branding and a new menu, a new partnership, or a renewed Nobu partnership.

The casino is a bigger question mark. There's no galley there. It would be hard to turn it into a restaraunt, especially with the renewed nightclub on Symphony. But what else to put there if not a casino. Not sure another lounge would be useful.

As for the Cove... it's highly unlikely either ship is currently in a photographable state right now; if they had the final furniture in place they'd be sailing next month not the end of summer. I'm sure they used representative old photos where relevant and new renders where enough changed. "New chairs" probably isn't enough to ditch the old photo when the space is likely to be substantively unchanged.

 

Um, me from yesterday:

 

The old casino and Umi Uma spaces show up unaltered, so I'm going to guess that they're being left blank while branding deals are being worked out.

 

Also, I was right about the bathtubs.

 

Agree with you on photos.  Those ships are construction sites, and anyone who's been responsible for a construction site knows the magic that occurs in the last 24 hours(and sometimes after.) 

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