Saab4444 Posted March 4 #2501 Share Posted March 4 13 hours ago, Blue Eyed Belfast Belle said: Very true. However as a solo I cant afford Celebrity! Celebrity often has better rates for solo travellers than Royal and they have single edge veranda rooms on Edge class ships. Look e.g. into Ascent in June 2025. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted March 4 #2502 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, Saab4444 said: Celebrity often has better rates for solo travellers than Royal and they have single edge veranda rooms on Edge class ships. Look e.g. into Ascent in June 2025. Was there day Edge got to Port Everglades for first time. Only second time I'd seen Tugs Blasting water hoses for it's Welcome as Edge spun around while I was on a Royal Ship doing a B2B on turn around day... Watch but for my Cruises Celeb at times comes close(smaller Ships) but Royal SOLO 340+ is usually better. Now with no longer Repo or Carib Sailings offered on Radiance Class not much to compare. Wont do Larger Ships on either Line but with new Rates on Royal can only imagine Celeb offering lower $$$ and Royals Higher $$$ it would have them beat... Edited March 4 by ONECRUISER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 4 #2503 Share Posted March 4 It seems like now on X when you see a reduced solo rate it means they are desperate to fill the ship. That and it's unbundled fares only, no AI fares for solo at reduced rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Eyed Belfast Belle Posted March 4 #2504 Share Posted March 4 If you check out the Blog there is an article "Five moves Royal Caribbean is making to overhaul its weekend cruise business for the future" Basically it is confirming what this thread has been saying for months - focusing on new cruisers, shorter 3-5 night cruises and abandoning the longer cruises in favour of chasing the new cruisers money. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg2310 Posted March 4 #2505 Share Posted March 4 At the rate Royal is going I guess I will be doing a B2B (which I've always heard about) for my first time when I get a chance to sail them. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 5 #2506 Share Posted March 5 I thought Ovation might start something new in Tokyo but it appears she is heading to China in 2025 after her dry dock in Singapore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJL53 Posted March 5 #2507 Share Posted March 5 16 hours ago, Saab4444 said: Celebrity often has better rates for solo travellers than Royal and they have single edge veranda rooms on Edge class ships. Look e.g. into Ascent in June 2025. I have never seen a less expensive price on Celebrity for a solo than using my single supplement on Royal. I would love to try Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted March 5 #2508 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, twangster said: I thought Ovation might start something new in Tokyo but it appears she is heading to China in 2025 after her dry dock in Singapore. The 10 year dry dock isn’t due until April 2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MyriamS Posted March 5 #2509 Share Posted March 5 Sorry if it's a newbie question... But why release one itinerary in April (Sydney to Singapore) and one in July (round-trip Beijing) with nothing in between? Is this dry dock, leasing to a local agent? Or they just haven't decided what the ship will do yet beyond April (but then why release a July itinerary)? I'm thinking of doing an Asia cruise April-June 2025, and the lack of visibility is frustrating. Though at least Royal seem to be progressively updating their schedule. MSC has nothing at all for 2025, and I don't think NCL has a release schedule (or at least I couldn't find it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 5 #2510 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, MyriamS said: But why release one itinerary in April (Sydney to Singapore) and one in July (round-trip Beijing) with nothing in between? The initial steps during the release could have gaps like that - they'll get filled soon after. Pre-COVID, Asia (especially China) could have itineraries only go out as little as 6 months (while RCI gauges the market and decides what to do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 5 #2511 Share Posted March 5 April 16 Ovation has a repo to Hong Kong, does one cruise from there then has a repo to Beijing where she homeports starting May 2025. 6 hours ago, springaussie said: The 10 year dry dock isn’t due until April 2026. Yep, confused her with another ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted March 5 #2512 Share Posted March 5 7 hours ago, KJL53 said: I have never seen a less expensive price on Celebrity for a solo than using my single supplement on Royal. I would love to try Celebrity. I am not sure about Caribbean but for Europe cruises Celebrity very often has better offers (and more choice). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted March 5 #2513 Share Posted March 5 25 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: I am not sure about Caribbean but for Europe cruises Celebrity very often has better offers (and more choice). I have seen some amazing last minute deals for Infinity out of Athens for the first few months of this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 5 #2514 Share Posted March 5 Celebrity has some last minute deals out of South America right now too. Solo included, but not AI for solo, X doesn't want solo drinking apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted March 5 #2515 Share Posted March 5 Oh man. I wish they were getting Ovation to Singapore a few days earlier. Then we could have added that to our Anthem trip (Singapore-Tokyo-Seattle) and done an amazing b2b2b. Three days too early. Sigh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MyriamS Posted March 5 #2516 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, twangster said: April 16 Ovation has a repo to Hong Kong, does one cruise from there then has a repo to Beijing where she homeports starting May 2025. Yep, confused her with another ship. Cannot see that repositioning cruise to HK on the Royal Carribbean website yet, but I am definitely interested in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookooclock Posted March 5 #2517 Share Posted March 5 If Ovation is taking over China for Summer 2025, where does that leave Spectrum? Back in Singapore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted March 5 #2518 Share Posted March 5 (edited) On 3/4/2024 at 3:23 AM, Saab4444 said: Celebrity often has better rates for solo travellers than Royal and they have single edge veranda rooms on Edge class ships. Look e.g. into Ascent in June 2025. I’m in a solo veranda on the Edge in May. It was cheaper than a regular interior cabin. I’m looking forward to it and it’s my first Celebrity cruise. I’m not concerned about getting points on Celebrity since I go over as Elite any way because of Royal points. Edited March 5 by crzndeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted March 6 #2519 Share Posted March 6 6 hours ago, cookooclock said: If Ovation is taking over China for Summer 2025, where does that leave Spectrum? Back in Singapore? Probably and Anthem not going to Asia at all.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted March 6 #2520 Share Posted March 6 9 hours ago, MyriamS said: Cannot see that repositioning cruise to HK on the Royal Carribbean website yet, but I am definitely interested in it! Apr 16 - Apr 21: Singapore to Hong Kong Apr 21 - Apr 26: Hong Kong > Naha > Keelung > Hong Kong Apr 26 - May 01: Hong Kong to Tianjin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted March 6 #2521 Share Posted March 6 6 hours ago, cookooclock said: If Ovation is taking over China for Summer 2025, where does that leave Spectrum? Back in Singapore? Spectrum: Feb 2025 - Nov 2025: Shanghai Dec 2025 - Jan 2026: Hong Kong Ovation: May 2025 - Oct 2025: Tianjin No news after Oct 2025 yet, but she appears on the port schedule of Hong Kong on 15th Oct 2025 (transit), so apparantly she will be southbound to Singapore (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookooclock Posted March 6 #2522 Share Posted March 6 40 minutes ago, Cruise Wonderland said: Spectrum: Feb 2025 - Nov 2025: Shanghai Dec 2025 - Jan 2026: Hong Kong Ovation: May 2025 - Oct 2025: Tianjin No news after Oct 2025 yet, but she appears on the port schedule of Hong Kong on 15th Oct 2025 (transit), so apparantly she will be southbound to Singapore (?) Oh wow, never considered that they would station two Quantum class ships in China at same time! Guess bookings are booming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarnorth04 Posted March 6 #2523 Share Posted March 6 wow... 2 quantum ships.. Can't wait to see the itineraries being offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 6 #2524 Share Posted March 6 I see the double Q class in China as a test to judge the ability to support a larger ship there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasukkie Posted March 6 #2525 Share Posted March 6 On 3/4/2024 at 11:18 AM, Blue Eyed Belfast Belle said: If you check out the Blog there is an article "Five moves Royal Caribbean is making to overhaul its weekend cruise business for the future" Basically it is confirming what this thread has been saying for months - focusing on new cruisers, shorter 3-5 night cruises and abandoning the longer cruises in favour of chasing the new cruisers money. I don't like it but I understand the business move. New cruisers spend money onboard. The pandemic double points created so many new Diamonds, and their vouchers, thus less onboard revenue. I strongly prefer longer itineraries so my eye will be looking for repositioning cruise releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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