Retired 07 Posted September 13, 2023 #1 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I noticed on the itinerary on the Navigator app, they show 3 different options for dressing at dinner: dressy, casual, and smart casual. What’s the difference between casual and smart casual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted September 13, 2023 #2 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Two words: Pocket Protector. Really smart casual is more akin to business casual. 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWorldWithBill Posted September 13, 2023 #3 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Smart casual is for people like us who are smart enough to read these boards. Casual is for..... never mind. 😁 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 13, 2023 #4 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Lifehacker weighs in on "confusing' dress codes": https://lifehacker.com/what-all-of-those-confusing-dress-code-terms-really-mea-1724671659 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julia Posted September 13, 2023 #5 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Smart casual = ball cap on forward Casual = ball cap on backwards 😅 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted September 13, 2023 #6 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, julia said: Smart casual = ball cap on forward Casual = ball cap on backwards 😅 In my neck of the woods, ball cap on backwards = gangsta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MrBill923 Posted September 13, 2023 #7 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Doesn't matter. Wear what you want. Saw all types of clothing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted September 13, 2023 #8 Share Posted September 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, MrBill923 said: Doesn't matter. Wear what you want. Saw all types of clothing. It does matter. Work with the guidelines. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted September 13, 2023 #9 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Retired 07 said: I noticed on the itinerary on the Navigator app, they show 3 different options for dressing at dinner: dressy, casual, and smart casual. What’s the difference between casual and smart casual? The IQ of the staff at the door. Frequent cruisers know how to impress their partners, others wear whatever they can get away with. Some will be turned away but you will see a variety no matter the code of th eday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted September 13, 2023 #10 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, cruisemom42 said: In my neck of the woods, ball cap on backwards = gangsta Bum Phillips: famous football coach would not wear his hat in a domed stadium. He said a gentleman does not wear a hat indoors. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWorldWithBill Posted September 13, 2023 #11 Share Posted September 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, C 2 C said: Bum Phillips: famous football coach would not wear his hat in a domed stadium. He said a gentleman does not wear a hat indoors. And that's one of the few fashion rules I wish was still followed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted September 13, 2023 #12 Share Posted September 13, 2023 A book and flip flops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetideishigh2021 Posted September 13, 2023 #13 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Smart casual: wear something you packed because your luggage was not lost as you were smart enough to tag your bag and didn’t put anything stupid like a travel iron, illegal drugs or a weapon in it. casual: your embarkation clothes washed out in the bathroom sink each night. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamthesea Posted September 13, 2023 #14 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Had a dinner get together on Saturday night -18 people. I stressed that the dress would be CASUAL, meaning shorts, jeans, golf shirts, sundress, tennis shoes, etc.. While the majority of the men were dressed casually (per my description), a couple of them wore long slacks and a button down (what I consider Smart Casual.) Most of the women, including myself, were dressed Smart Casual with nice Capri pants, slacks, dressy tops, jewelry galore, and even a couple of the women wearing nice dresses. None were dressed casually. We ate outside on the porches of our home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted September 13, 2023 #15 Share Posted September 13, 2023 No socks vs socks? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare albingirl Posted September 14, 2023 #16 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Iamthesea said: Had a dinner get together on Saturday night -18 people. I stressed that the dress would be CASUAL, meaning shorts, jeans, golf shirts, sundress, tennis shoes, etc.. While the majority of the men were dressed casually (per my description), a couple of them wore long slacks and a button down (what I consider Smart Casual.) Most of the women, including myself, were dressed Smart Casual with nice Capri pants, slacks, dressy tops, jewelry galore, and even a couple of the women wearing nice dresses. None were dressed casually. We ate outside on the porches of our home. If you said casual to me, I would be in shorts, no makeup, no jewelry, and me being me. It's a Florida thing. Mind if I bring my comfort pet parakeet while we are at it? Haha! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamthesea Posted September 14, 2023 #17 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Me too!!! 2 hours ago, 3rdGenCunarder said: No socks vs socks? Wearing socks in the South is a step above Smart Casual. Considered "dressy", most men around here would only wear them to work, church, weddings, a funeral, or on an extremely cold day. My DH doesn't even wear them to church. I guess he would if he were wearing a suit or blazer, but I cannot remember the last time he dressed up to go to church except for a funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted September 14, 2023 #18 Share Posted September 14, 2023 We had formal. That was pretty clear, but too confusing. (Apologies to the fine people from the UK. You probably knew the dress code rukes before you could ride a bicycle.) Then we had gala. Gala was just plain stupid. It should have been a step beyond formal, but it wasn't. Now we have "dressy." What in the actual heck is that supposed to mean? I'm laying odds that the next step is little cards showing that your pants must be at least this long, with the pictogram showing something longer than shorts. Your shirt must have sleeves. A collar is appreciated! Of course, they're not going to give you printed cards, just a PDF that you have to print at home. Or, maybe it'll be on the Navigator app. You'll have people without the wifi package prancing about nekkid because they lack wardrobe guidance. All I can guarantee you is that there are high level meetings, hammering out the next ridiculous iteration of the dress code. Focus groups are testing the new names. Feedback is being solicited. Reports (comprehensive!) are being drafted. You know what? The new guidance is gonna be dumb. It won't be clear. And, God willing, we'll all be around to argue about it. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciencewonk Posted September 14, 2023 #19 Share Posted September 14, 2023 In Australia, smart casual means no flip flops. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackNow Posted September 14, 2023 #20 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just got off the Konningsdam on Sept 9. All nights are casual except the 2 Gala nights which are dressy. More and more ships don't seem to have smart casual anymore. You are free to dress as fancy as you want. Other people might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalandara Posted September 14, 2023 #21 Share Posted September 14, 2023 9 hours ago, 3rdGenCunarder said: No socks vs socks? I *have* to wear socks, cannot stand bare feet in almost all types of footwear. (So you will rarely see me in sandals or those abomination of shoes known as "crocs".) Two of my children seem incapable of ever putting socks on. It still sometimes drives me a bit batty when I see them in sneakers without socks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamthesea Posted September 14, 2023 #22 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Haha!!! My DH does wear golf socks with his athletics/tennis/sneakers, but no socks with his dress shoes or loafers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenveeB Posted September 14, 2023 #23 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Smart casual just means business casual when you’re not at the office. No shorts, no ratty jeans, no muscle shirts. Just a little nicer than anything goes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shipshape sam Posted September 14, 2023 #24 Share Posted September 14, 2023 18 hours ago, julia said: Smart casual = ball cap on forward Casual = ball cap on backwards 😅 LOL I think you nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare electro Posted September 14, 2023 #25 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KenveeB said: Smart casual just means business casual when you’re not at the office. No shorts, no ratty jeans, no muscle shirts. Just a little nicer than anything goes. Was in Japan for work in 2008 I think, G8 summit. There was a meeting for our boss that was listed as business casual. Everyone was running around trying to find out want that meant. Turns out, Business casual in Japan meant your suit didn't have to be black. 🙂 Edited September 14, 2023 by electro 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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