Rare Waltershipman Posted December 15, 2023 #76 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, rbtan said: Please explain what that is. 2 minutes ago, rbtan said: Please explain what that is. Fil Rouge is the French restaurant on the new Explora Journeys cruise ship that was simply spectacular. Of all our cruises includibg O SS S and there are many others EJ had the best food of all The culinary head Ftanck Farranger was formerly with O and SS Happy cruising we sail on Vista in January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redraider1966 Posted December 15, 2023 #77 Share Posted December 15, 2023 16 hours ago, Waltershipman said: The culinary head Ftanck Farranger was formerly with O and SS I assume your fingers merely slipped on the keyboard, as it's Franck Garranger. When he was in charge at O, the cruise line could truly claim to offer "the finest cuisine at sea." His famous mashed potatoes were simply the best! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Waltershipman Posted December 15, 2023 #78 Share Posted December 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, Vallesan said: Yes you are absolutely right. Having been married, still happily, for just over 54 years, I understand exactly what you’re saying. Travel safely and enjoy! 22 minutes ago, redraider1966 said: I assume your fingers merely slipped on the keyboard, as it's Franck Garranger. When he was in charge at O, the cruise line could truly claim to offer "the finest cuisine at sea." His famous mashed potatoes were simply the best! You are correctFranck His mash potatoes were in most venues on E J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie115 Posted December 16, 2023 #79 Share Posted December 16, 2023 We ate at Ember 2 nights ago. Service was fine but the food only average. After reading Jacque’s menu on the O site I suspect we would have loved dining there. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtravel Posted December 16, 2023 #80 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Jacques is amazing. I will miss it on my Vista cruise. The Embers menu looks ok. There are many choices. It reminds me of a diner menu. Living in New Jersey, we eat at diners regularly. There are no restaurants in my area that serve French food. That makes eating at Jacques a real treat. When traveling, I enjoy eating foods that I don’t get at home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted December 17, 2023 #81 Share Posted December 17, 2023 My understanding is that replacing Jacques with Embers has nothing to do with people’s preferences or changing the demographics. It’s all about saving a lot of money on food cost and preparation, and service when compared one to another. We’ll be on Riviera next but will miss Jacques when we cruise on Vista in 2025. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 17, 2023 #82 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Redtravel said: Jacques is amazing. I will miss it on my Vista cruise. The Embers menu looks ok. There are many choices. It reminds me of a diner menu. Living in New Jersey, we eat at diners regularly. There are no restaurants in my area that serve French food. That makes eating at Jacques a real treat. When traveling, I enjoy eating foods that I don’t get at home. A treat just for you 🙂 Jacques pistachio creme brulee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Waltershipman Posted December 17, 2023 #83 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, clo said: A treat just for you 🙂 Jacques pistachio creme brulee. I suspect Jacques at its prime was under the culinary expertise of Franck Garranger a true master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 17, 2023 #84 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Waltershipman said: I suspect Jacques at its prime was under the culinary expertise of Franck Garranger a true master I was referring to the restaurant not the play caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 17, 2023 #85 Share Posted December 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, clo said: I was referring to the restaurant not the play caller. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted December 17, 2023 #86 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, osandomir said: My understanding is that replacing Jacques with Embers has nothing to do with people’s preferences or changing the demographics. It’s all about saving a lot of money on food cost and preparation, and service when compared one to another. We’ll be on Riviera next but will miss Jacques when we cruise on Vista in 2025. I love Jacques, too, and would love to see it on other O ships, but on what basis or what facts is your understanding that Embers has nothing to do with people’s preferences or changing demographics? Edited December 17, 2023 by 1985rz1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtravel Posted December 17, 2023 #87 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, clo said: A treat just for you 🙂 Jacques pistachio creme brulee. Thanks. It looks amazing. I love the apple tatin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted December 17, 2023 #88 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1985rz1 said: I love Jacques, too, and would love to see it on other O ships, but on what basis or what facts is your understanding that Embers has nothing to do with people’s preferences or changing demographics? It’s not about what we like or don’t like. Of cause, you are entitled to your own opinion and I just expressed mine. No, I don’t have facts because I’m not in Oceania management. I think so based on my understanding of the price difference to have a dinner in the land based nice French restaurant compare to the establishment serving Modern California flavoured bistro style food here where we live. It cost more to serve Baked Sea Bass Fillet than Fish and Chips on the Ember menu. Edited December 17, 2023 by osandomir 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtan Posted December 17, 2023 #89 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Redtravel said: Jacques is amazing. I will miss it on my Vista cruise. The Embers menu looks ok. There are many choices. It reminds me of a diner menu. Living in New Jersey, we eat at diners regularly. There are no restaurants in my area that serve French food. That makes eating at Jacques a real treat. When traveling, I enjoy eating foods that I don’t get at home. If you get to NYC on occasion, check out Orsay.Orsay is a very nice(though not cheap) French Brasserie style rest. My spouse is from NJ.It's not always easy getting "Taylor Ham" up here in NH. LOL Edited December 17, 2023 by rbtan additions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 17, 2023 #90 Share Posted December 17, 2023 16 hours ago, osandomir said: It cost more to serve Baked Sea Bass Fillet than Fish and Chips on the Ember menu. Whereas I'd order the sea bass but not the fish and chips. Always. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiserFromMaine Posted December 18, 2023 #91 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I’ve been following this topic with some interest since we’re sailing on the Vista in late January 2024 (next month!) and I won’t miss Jacques, for the simple reason I’ve never been to Jacques. I’m going to give Ember a fair shot. There are several less casual restaurants on board and I’ll try all them too. Looking forward to our cruise! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Waltershipman Posted December 18, 2023 #92 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, CruiserFromMaine said: I’ve been following this topic with some interest since we’re sailing on the Vista in late January 2024 (next month!) and I won’t miss Jacques, for the simple reason I’ve never been to Jacques. I’m going to give Ember a fair shot. There are several less casual restaurants on board and I’ll try all them too. Looking forward to our cruise! Me too we will be on board January 31 how bout you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtan Posted December 19, 2023 #93 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, CruiserFromMaine said: I’ve been following this topic with some interest since we’re sailing on the Vista in late January 2024 (next month!) and I won’t miss Jacques, for the simple reason I’ve never been to Jacques. I’m going to give Ember a fair shot. There are several less casual restaurants on board and I’ll try all them too. Looking forward to our cruise! Really check out Terrace some nights. The menu is surprisingly good at times. Most lines the "buffet" can be really boring. Not on O. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiserFromMaine Posted December 19, 2023 #94 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Waltershipman said: Me too we will be on board January 31 how bout you Yes, that’s our cruise. See you on board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted December 19, 2023 #95 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, CruiserFromMaine said: and I won’t miss Jacques, for the simple reason I’ve never been to Jacques. I Ok, but since you don't know what you're missing then you really can't have an opinion on this subject. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiserFromMaine Posted December 19, 2023 #96 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) And I don’t have an opinion. Whether Ember is better than Jacques is an opinion and I don’t have an opinion whether Ember is better or not. The topic question is whether we’ll miss Jacques. Many, it seems, will miss it, but I won’t, and many others who’ve never experienced it won’t miss it either. “I don’t know what I’m missing.” Yes, and that’s my point. It’s part of the evolution of the Oceania brand, just like when they added Jacques. Edited December 19, 2023 by CruiserFromMaine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 19, 2023 #97 Share Posted December 19, 2023 22 hours ago, rbtan said: Really check out Terrace some nights. The menu is surprisingly good at times. Most lines the "buffet" can be really boring. Not on O. I totally agree. We actually ate the majority of our dinner there and no reason other than the food was so good. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted December 19, 2023 #98 Share Posted December 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, clo said: I totally agree. We actually ate the majority of our dinner there and no reason other than the food was so good. PS: I hate the term "foodie" so let's just say we're really into food and it drives our travel 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtan Posted December 19, 2023 #99 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, clo said: PS: I hate the term "foodie" so let's just say we're really into food and it drives our travel 🙂 Could be worse..We could be called competitive eaters.Culinary inclined works for us. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbtan Posted December 19, 2023 #100 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, CruiserFromMaine said: And I don’t have an opinion. Whether Ember is better than Jacques is an opinion and I don’t have an opinion whether Ember is better or not. The topic question is whether we’ll miss Jacques. Many, it seems, will miss it, but I won’t, and many others who’ve never experienced it won’t miss it either. “I don’t know what I’m missing.” Yes, and that’s my point. It’s part of the evolution of the Oceania brand, just like when they added Jacques. We love Jacques but are not upset that it is not on Vista/Allura. As I said in a past post, Oceania is probably trying new adventures & that's fine. Cunard had Todd English for several years & pax eventually got bored. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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