katiepe Posted April 3, 2012 #151 Share Posted April 3, 2012 On the Glory a couple of weeks ago we all went to our actual Muster Station before sailing. Everyone was basically quiet. We did have to wait as they made some repeated announcements for the Muster call so I imagine there were some people perhaps dawdling. I do think anyone traveling whether by plane or ship needs to take some personal responsibilty to make sure YOU know what to do in an emergency. I dont know how many times I have flown and yet I still look for the emergency exits and watch the safety video. I made sure we knew how to get to our muster station, where our life jackets were and read the plaque on the back of the door for the evacuation route. I have had to put on a life jacket on previous cruises but didnt on this one. I did wait until after the muster to ask where the life jackets were if we didnt have time to get to our cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted April 4, 2012 #152 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have unfortunately seen and been in the midst of people in a real crisis. Not fun and I sure as heck don't want to experience it again let alone on a ship. Ignorance isnt the sole cause of it but it plays a part. Leadership does and if Carnival cant even keep folks halfway civilized during a peaceful drill, they absolutely will fail at keeping order when the SHTF. I do not expect the crew to handle it properly. I do expect people to flip out and be chaotic when tings go down. I have to take that into consideration and have a plan B. Couldn't agree more...with all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgàile Posted April 7, 2018 #153 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Life Vests...In a disaster situation, crew drills become MUCH MUCH MUCH more important than the drills passengers go through. In an emergency situation, they become the leaders, in the attempt to get people to safety. I am far more concerned about their responsiveness than my own in an emergency situation. That isn't to say, we shouldn't prepare ourselves, but there is only so much one can do in the few hours leading up to departure. I cannot agree with this more. As a healthcare professional, the routine practice and actual use of ACLS (advanced cardiac life support) makes me proficient in those skills even in the face of stressful situations. Drills are important and especially for those who would lead others. I came to this thread looking for information about the location of Muster Station A. None of the deck plans I've found for the CCL EC ship show it, or I'm blind and can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoge3k Posted April 7, 2018 #154 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I cannot agree with this more. As a healthcare professional, the routine practice and actual use of ACLS (advanced cardiac life support) makes me proficient in those skills even in the face of stressful situations. Drills are important and especially for those who would lead others. I came to this thread looking for information about the location of Muster Station A. None of the deck plans I've found for the CCL EC ship show it, or I'm blind and can't see it. ...... another 6 year old thread woken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgàile Posted April 7, 2018 #155 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Your muster station is now printed on your sail and sign card. If you forget where it is just ask any crew member and they can point you in the right direction. And they do have life jackets next to the life boats and in the life boats. They specifcally say at the drill that if you are not near your cabin in the case of a drill to go directly to your station. The new set up makes much more sense. Thank you. We will do this. As for resurrecting an old thread, I'd rather be dutiful and look for information already posted than begin a new thread on the same topic. I find it helps others new to cruising, like myself, to read discussions with lots of information already available instead of being told in a newly created thread that one already exists and then still get no or few answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted April 7, 2018 #156 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Lol.....2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoge3k Posted April 7, 2018 #157 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Thank you. We will do this. As for resurrecting an old thread, I'd rather be dutiful and look for information already posted than begin a new thread on the same topic. I find it helps others new to cruising, like myself, to read discussions with lots of information already available instead of being told in a newly created thread that one already exists and then still get no or few answers. While I understand your logic, things change. LOTS of things change in 6 years and things may no longer be accurate. It's much better to start a new thread and get updated and accurate information, regardless of the topic. It doesn't cost you anything to start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgàile Posted April 7, 2018 #158 Share Posted April 7, 2018 While I understand your logic, things change. LOTS of things change in 6 years and things may no longer be accurate. It's much better to start a new thread and get updated and accurate information, regardless of the topic. It doesn't cost you anything to start a new thread. Fair enough. Are you aware of any new practices in the way of muster drills, especially as it relates to Carnival Ecstasy? I could not find the muster stations on the deck plans available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoge3k Posted April 7, 2018 #159 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Fair enough. Are you aware of any new practices in the way of muster drills, especially as it relates to Carnival Ecstasy? I could not find the muster stations on the deck plans available. I haven't been on the Ecstasy since 2016 so things have probably changed since then. We went to a lounge for muster, then walked outside to the lifeboats. Of course you don't have to take your lifejacket with you anymore. Once we left the lifeboat area, it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHill44 Posted April 7, 2018 #160 Share Posted April 7, 2018 At the end of the day it's every man for themselves. Save yourself. Survival of the fittest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgàile Posted April 7, 2018 #161 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I haven't been on the Ecstasy since 2016 so things have probably changed since then. We went to a lounge for muster, then walked outside to the lifeboats. Of course you don't have to take your lifejacket with you anymore. Once we left the lifeboat area, it was over. Oh, okay, sounds simple enough. I am probably over thinking this. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushing985 Posted April 7, 2018 #162 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Personally, I don't get a lot out of the briefing...I'm there, I pay attention and I sweat. What I do afterwards is go back to the cabin, make sure I have the correct number of life vests and make sure everyone knows how to put it on (it isn't rocket science) while making sure the whistle is still attached and then we troop up to our assigned station to make sure we know where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWolver672 Posted April 7, 2018 #163 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I haven't been on the Ecstasy since 2016 so things have probably changed since then. We went to a lounge for muster, then walked outside to the lifeboats. Of course you don't have to take your lifejacket with you anymore. Once we left the lifeboat area, it was over. Oh, okay, sounds simple enough. I am probably over thinking this. :) Haven't been on the Ecstasy but on the Paradise which is similar, after meeting in the lounge, they escorted us to our lifeboat area. No need to worry about where it is. There is signs all over the staircases pointing to the direction of your boat with crew members directing you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgàile Posted April 7, 2018 #164 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Haven't been on the Ecstasy but on the Paradise which is similar, after meeting in the lounge, they escorted us to our lifeboat area. No need to worry about where it is. There is signs all over the staircases pointing to the direction of your boat with crew members directing you in the right direction. That is quite reassuring. This is all so new and foreign to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted April 7, 2018 #165 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Fair enough. Are you aware of any new practices in the way of muster drills, especially as it relates to Carnival Ecstasy? I could not find the muster stations on the deck plans available. I haven't been on the Ecstasy since 2016 so things have probably changed since then. We went to a lounge for muster, then walked outside to the lifeboats. Of course you don't have to take your lifejacket with you anymore. Once we left the lifeboat area, it was over. Muster drills will not have changed on the Ecstasy. Once the Coast Guard approves them, they stay the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted April 7, 2018 #166 Share Posted April 7, 2018 ...... another 6 year old thread woken up. Gotta love it. I was like "destiny?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apcci2 Posted April 7, 2018 #167 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Muster drills will not have changed on the Ecstasy. Once the Coast Guard approves them, they stay the same. Yep, muster drills are the same on Ecstasy. Just off a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted April 9, 2018 #168 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Thank you. We will do this. As for resurrecting an old thread, I'd rather be dutiful and look for information already posted than begin a new thread on the same topic. I find it helps others new to cruising, like myself, to read discussions with lots of information already available instead of being told in a newly created thread that one already exists and then still get no or few answers. BUT by looking at information from 2012-- that information can be very outdated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckerDave Posted April 9, 2018 #169 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Who has time to go back SIX years and dig up an old thread? With the volume of pages in the Carnival section alone that must have been hundreds of pages to search through. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys2Heaven Posted April 9, 2018 #170 Share Posted April 9, 2018 So, the search function DOES work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieCharlotte Posted April 9, 2018 #171 Share Posted April 9, 2018 This thread is way out of date, but it did remind me to ask about the muster drill we just experienced. We were required to have our S&S card scanned. That would have been a good idea, but there were some flaws in the system. Several people were called out as having not been scanned. One was a member of my group. I had been standing right there when the person scanning cards told her that her card had been scanned and I saw her photo on the screen, so either the person or the machine made a mistake. A process that should have made muster faster, easier, and more accurate ended up slowing things down. I seem to remember counting by clicks rather than card scanning in the past, at least when our muster station was outside by the lifeboats. Is this a new system that will get better over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotRob Posted April 9, 2018 #172 Share Posted April 9, 2018 This thread is way out of date, but it did remind me to ask about the muster drill we just experienced. We were required to have our S&S card scanned. That would have been a good idea, but there were some flaws in the system. Several people were called out as having not been scanned. One was a member of my group. I had been standing right there when the person scanning cards told her that her card had been scanned and I saw her photo on the screen, so either the person or the machine made a mistake. A process that should have made muster faster, easier, and more accurate ended up slowing things down. I seem to remember counting by clicks rather than card scanning in the past, at least when our muster station was outside by the lifeboats. Is this a new system that will get better over time? I remember the click-to-count also on my last cruise (2015). Of course, that only tells them HOW MANY showed up, not what individuals were missing. The new way allows them to go after the missing people. Of course, MY opinion is that anyone who deliberately evades the muster drill and makes the REST of us law-abiding passengers wait around should pay the price in the form of having their Sail & Sign cards deactivated until such time as they attend remedial safety training. Which should be in the form of a two hour long video on the importance of muster drills. Then maybe force them to watch Titanic and the Poseidon Adventure. ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSHLOT Posted April 9, 2018 #173 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Prime example of people think differently in every situation. I for one, really don't care for the muster drill, but the way they do it now is a whole lot better then the way they used to do it. I remember being in lines 7or8 deep and 25 across lined up on an outside deck with life vests on. It was a total buzz kill, but knew we had to do it. Now theres no vests and inside a nice lounge (At least our last few cruises were) and they just scan your keys, no problem. If people are that concerned about safety just watch the safety video, and if you need more just go to the desk, maybe you can get a hands-on course. Not a big deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum53 Posted April 9, 2018 #174 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Unfortunately, for most passengers, having a mandatory muster drill is pretty much a waste of time. If a real life emergency were to occur, out of approximately 3,000 people, how many would remain calm and know exactly what to do and where to go, and how many would go into panic mode and be absolutely clueless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athankfulheart Posted April 10, 2018 #175 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Unfortunately, for most passengers, having a mandatory muster drill is pretty much a waste of time. If a real life emergency were to occur, out of approximately 3,000 people, how many would remain calm and know exactly what to do and where to go, and how many would go into panic mode and be absolutely clueless? You just named my only real concern when I am cruising. I don't ever think about what could go wrong with the :ship::ship: , but rather what will go wrong with people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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