kim4larry Posted January 4, 2015 #1 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hi I'm Larry I was all ready for my first cruise. I had apprehensions because I am recently sober. Yup I’m the one that made all the noise and got in trouble type. I have had a major life change. I found out drinking is an option not a necessity. I was really nervous setting out on my first cruise. I’ve been attending AA for a while. I know we should stay out of the press but this was life changing. Almost Spiritual (for those who understand). I was heading out on my first cruise on Royal Caribbean to Bermuda on OCT. 2012. I was very nervous, as I was relatively new to Sobriety. I had asked many of my sober friends if they had taken a cruise and if they had to lock themselves in their cabin. This raised many a deep laugh! I was informed that they have A.A. meetings on the Ship! I was informed that all I had to do is go to the community Board and Look. There might or should be a message. "Friends of Bills meet at 5:00 and what room". For you non-alcoholics or future ones that’s code for friends of Bill Wilson, the founder of Alchaholics Anonymous. What a revelation. Upon my embarkation I went to the Board first thing. To my surprise the ONLY note was a "Friends of Bills" note. I waited till just before 5 to head down. It was in kind of a secluded but beautiful, part if the ship. I found the Note on the door marking the room. As I opened the door, a single man sat at a very large table. He looked up at me and said "Welcome Home". Still puts tears in my eyes! I was not alone. There was a meeting every day of our cruise. Not everyone made every meeting. I understand now. We had an Anniversary of sobriety at sea. It was great. I think the best part was I would bump into one of the twelve or so members on board and on the Island. It was great. For any of you new to sobriety or not, looking forward to cruising with you and hearing your story! Gifts of Sobriety, The miricale never end. Larry P -- NY :cool: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetz Posted January 4, 2015 #2 Share Posted January 4, 2015 What a great story! :D One big money maker for the cruise line is the selling of alcohol drinks. I think that many, trying to stay sober, do not take a cruise just for this reason. ' This is the first time I have read any feedback regarding the meetings onboard and I think it is great that you posted. Thank you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingJs Posted January 4, 2015 #3 Share Posted January 4, 2015 My husband always goes to the meetings on board and enjoys them very much. We sail Princess and I can tell you they are very supportive of AA. Meetings are announced in the daily Patter. No need to go somewhere special to find the date and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted January 4, 2015 #4 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Princess list the meetings in their daily schedule. It is delivered to your cabin each evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psbtrvlr Posted January 4, 2015 #5 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Princess list the meetings in their daily schedule. It is delivered to your cabin each evening Most lines do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted January 4, 2015 #6 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That's true...Friends of Bill are on all ships!! Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted January 4, 2015 #7 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You can also find the meetings posted on the daily message board usually found in the Promenade on most ships. Congratulations Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlueRiband Posted January 4, 2015 #8 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Many cruise lines now sell "mocktails" at the bars. Something I find helpful is to immediately order a non-alcoholic drink so the question "What are you drinking?" is defused. If they contain too much sugar there is usually the option to order "designer water" with a wedge of lemon or lime. It also helps to "play up" what you now drink and not apologize for it. For example, "Oh yes I sure can use a drink! I'd like a refreshing mixture of some club soda and cranberry juice with a wedge of lime." Works for me, but you will have to decide if doing those things might set off a drink signal for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim4larry Posted January 4, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Its been 3 years now, Life could not be better. I appreciate the feed back. I was worried I might offend. Thanks again Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted January 4, 2015 #10 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I agree you can find meetings listed in the ship's newsletter (or at least should be). If not, you can go to the purser's or passenger services desk and ask. I think cruise lines tend to be very supportive. And bartenders know how to turn many mixed drinks into mocktails. There are various reasons many passengers won't be drinking on a cruise (pregnancy, medical conditions, just not into alcohol, etc.) so there's nothing to feel apologetic about. So good for you and hopefully you'll be collecting many year's worth of the tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted January 4, 2015 #11 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Its been 3 years now, Life could not be better. I appreciate the feed back. I was worried I might offend. Thanks again Larry While I am not an alcoholic, and do not understand alcoholism, I am proud of your achievement! I work with some people that have had multiple DUI convictions and nearly lost their jobs, homes, family, etc. I generally do not drink alcohol on a regular basis, and when I do, can limit myself to only a few, so do not understand the whole disease. Keep up the great work, and don't ever let anyone pressure you into doing anything that you don't want to do! Congrats on your being sober and stay that way! I'll buy you a soda anytime! Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted January 4, 2015 #12 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Praise God, what a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing it. I hope you and Kim will enjoy your upcoming cruise! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted January 5, 2015 #13 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted January 5, 2015 #14 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Almost Spiritual (for those who understand). Spiritual refers to "spirits"? Or AA being religious? I'd like to know. (non-US here so I don't know much about AA or English) As I opened the door, a single man sat at a very large table. He looked up at me and said "Welcome Home". Still puts tears in my eyes! I was not alone. This could easily be the most important scene in a movie, I like it! It also makes me wonder what the chances are you'd be the only one showing up. Only after my (only) cruise I learned what FOB actually meant and I really like the fact that cruises offer those and other "friends of" meetings where drinks a major revenue for the ships. Then again, I don't like that codewords are used implying some shady business is going on instead of "sober people meet" or "gay people meet". The poker tournament I attended was not listed as "friends of Phil Ivey meet". Being a friend of Bill is something to be much more proud of than being a friend of Phil. I was worried I might offend. Seriously, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim4larry Posted January 5, 2015 Author #15 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I guess I'd start out with Religion is for people who don't want to go to hell and Spirituality is for people who were there and don't want to go back. Understanding alcoholism is a career in itself. Kinda imagine someone allergic to strawberries and still eats them. When I drink a switch goes off, one feels good, two is better then I start counting in dog years. I'm just allergic "I break out in handcuffs, just an AA joke. No code just respecting others. I and many others have sensitive jobs and a drinking past puts doubts in some people's minds. Although justifiably so. I had to give away a Family, Kids a home and a bussiness before I even saw a problem. I should have read the warning! instant A$$, just add alcohol. I would love to send time explaining it someday. Always wanted to be in a movie - LOL Funnhy today most people know someone or some family member in sobriety. Who would guess getting sober would be so cool!:):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim4larry Posted January 5, 2015 Author #16 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Praise God, what a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing it. I hope you and Kim will enjoy your upcoming cruise! :) Did Explore of the Seas as our first cruise. Sailed right through sandy WOW 125 mph winds, water in the boat, everything shut down! I hope my luck is better the second time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim4larry Posted January 5, 2015 Author #17 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thanks I'd rather light a candle than curse at the darkness anymore Life is not measured by how many breaths you take ; but, how many moments take your breath away. I remember those moments. It's a beautiful thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted January 5, 2015 #18 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Spiritual refers to "spirits"? Or AA being religious? I'd like to know. (non-US here so I don't know much about AA or English) This could easily be the most important scene in a movie, I like it! It also makes me wonder what the chances are you'd be the only one showing up. Only after my (only) cruise I learned what FOB actually meant and I really like the fact that cruises offer those and other "friends of" meetings where drinks a major revenue for the ships. Then again, I don't like that codewords are used implying some shady business is going on instead of "sober people meet" or "gay people meet". The poker tournament I attended was not listed as "friends of Phil Ivey meet". Being a friend of Bill is something to be much more proud of than being a friend of Phil. Seriously, how? That second A in AA, NA, OA, etc., stands for "Anonymous." Bill W was the founding of AA as for as I know (the only similar meeting I've been to was to Overeaters Anonymous because my mother thought I should see what it's like as a writer just in case I want to use the concept in a story). It's based on a 12 step program, with one of the steps letting a "higher power" guide you -- that's the spirituality part (hopefully I'm getting this all right). So when people who go to AA meetings see "Friends of Bill W" listed in the ship's newsletter, they know it'll be a place they can go to with others in the "same boat" as them. It sure beats having to pay an expensive call back home to their sponsor if they need the help. Probably less known is "Friends of Dorothy," but since my hometown has a good number of gays (and have worked with and for gays in the past), I know about this group. You'll also see other groups listed from time to time, and some will be obvious (Veterans) and others may not (Red Hats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MrSchwump Posted January 5, 2015 #19 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think a cruise is the perfect vacation for an alcoholic. Im a drinker and the cost alone dissuades me from drinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickfarland4 Posted January 6, 2015 #20 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) This gave me chills! Congratulations on your accomplishment! It is something to be very proud of. I am an ex smoker who quit 3 or 4 times before finally giving it up in 2011. I smoked over a pack a day most days and for about 20 years. Of course not a pack and a half a day when I was 13 but, you know. Not that smoking is the same but, an addiction is an addiction as I'm sure you understand! You are an inspiration!!:D Edited January 6, 2015 by Mickfarland4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoncom Posted January 6, 2015 #21 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Congrats Larry. One thing about the high price of liquor on ships is you will not find heavy drinking.You also will find Celebrity cruisers either have a drink in the bar before dinner or in their cabins. You have also chosen one of the most beautiful ships at sea with food to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majarosh Posted March 10, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Larry ODAT Been sober since may 30 1984...one of the things I STILL do to this day when traveling especially on ships...being that one is surrounded by booze is to check the message board ..RC has the board usually by the main desk. One trip...our meeting was in the CHAPEL on Liberty of the SEAS...how appropriate. I have learned to choose my physical location...I don't belong in the bars on ships...that's just me...WHY be in there ? I try to stay away from the big pool areas..again..that's just me...one "sobering " full of gratitude thing..since we usually get balconies we tend to hover round our balcony and watch the drunk folks scramble to get back on the ship after partaking. ..or trying to prove one is a professional drunk. Makes me sooo grateful that..there by the grace of GOD go I. Heading back on Liberty in 7 days 15 hours... My issue with THIS cruise is that it's SMACK in the middle of a number ofmk colleges...AND SPRING BREAK....ahhhhh...running from the room...ALWAYS VIGILANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1girln3boys Posted March 11, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I never knew what Friends of Bill or Dorothy was until I cruised and saw it listed on the Fun Times and found out what it meant. Happy to see you were able to enjoy these meetings on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted March 11, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 11, 2015 LarryODAT Been sober since may 30 1984... That's an amazing long time, 11,242 days to be exact. Congratulations! My record is to quit smoking for a whole 12 days.. What's ODAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalspin Posted March 11, 2015 #25 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Guessing it is One Day Atta Time... If you can do it for 12 days you can do it for 12 years. ODAT! Edited March 11, 2015 by crystalspin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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