KarinaGW Posted February 12, 2016 #226 Share Posted February 12, 2016 A ship can go 45 degrees and then right itself. In fact, it is a SOLAS (Safety Of Life At Sea) requirement. Can you please provide the link for this requirement? I've been unable to find it and would like to educate myself more as to the specifics. Any *official* link would be fine...even an official recap of the pertinent section would be fine. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 12, 2016 #227 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Can you please provide the link for this requirement? I've been unable to find it and would like to educate myself more as to the specifics. Any *official* link would be fine...even an official recap of the pertinent section would be fine. Thank you. It is a SOLAS requirement that has been noted in the Royal Caribbean video on the building of the Voyager class ships and was cited by one of the Royal Caribbean captains during the Captain's Corner. SOLAS regulations are long and full of technical data. I'm not going to spend time looking for it. Try contacting Captain Bill Wright in Royal Caribbean, I'm sure he can point you right to it. Captain Wright was the person who brought the Voyager from Europe to Florida and was featured on the video put out by Royal Caribbean. The SOLAS regulation was mentioned on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicbuffalo Posted February 12, 2016 #228 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I have no horse in this race, but it perturbs me that RCCL did NOT mention azipod damage until the news got ahold of it. They didn't really lie, they just didn't fully inform families waiting on news from the ship, and the passengers on it. I hate the secrecy. The buying public has a right to know in real time. I don't blame the Captain, I blame RCCL, and probably will not sail with them again until they change their logic in this type of situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted February 13, 2016 #229 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I have no horse in this race, but it perturbs me that RCCL did NOT mention azipod damage until the news got ahold of it. They didn't really lie, they just didn't fully inform families waiting on news from the ship, and the passengers on it. I hate the secrecy. The buying public has a right to know in real time. What difference would it have made? The ship was seaworthy, it just went slower than normal. As I said earlier, the only thing that it would have accomplished was to give people who were already concerned an excuse to start being worried about the ship becoming dead in the middle of the ocean. You mentioned "The buying public". Who was going to book or cancel a future cruise based on the information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stipmom Posted February 13, 2016 #230 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I was on the Feb 6 sailing and would not hesitate to go back on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush26 Posted February 13, 2016 #231 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm booked for tomorrow :( and I'm worried we'll lose a sea day. So what do you guys think will happen? I wish I could cancel but then we will lose a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 13, 2016 #232 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm booked for tomorrow :( and I'm worried we'll lose a sea day. So what do you guys think will happen? I wish I could cancel but then we will lose a lot of money According to the latest statement by the USCG, it seems Anthem will sail. It also doesn't seem that your itinerary will change, but of course any of that can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarinaGW Posted February 13, 2016 #233 Share Posted February 13, 2016 It is a SOLAS requirement that has been noted in the Royal Caribbean video on the building of the Voyager class ships and was cited by one of the Royal Caribbean captains during the Captain's Corner. SOLAS regulations are long and full of technical data. I'm not going to spend time looking for it. Try contacting Captain Bill Wright in Royal Caribbean, I'm sure he can point you right to it. Captain Wright was the person who brought the Voyager from Europe to Florida and was featured on the video put out by Royal Caribbean. The SOLAS regulation was mentioned on the video. Figured as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted February 13, 2016 #234 Share Posted February 13, 2016 It is a SOLAS requirement that has been noted in the Royal Caribbean video on the building of the Voyager class ships and was cited by one of the Royal Caribbean captains during the Captain's Corner. SOLAS regulations are long and full of technical data. I'm not going to spend time looking for it. Try contacting Captain Bill Wright in Royal Caribbean, I'm sure he can point you right to it. Captain Wright was the person who brought the Voyager from Europe to Florida and was featured on the video put out by Royal Caribbean. The SOLAS regulation was mentioned on the video. He is long gone from Royal Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtopia Posted February 13, 2016 #235 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I would go :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted February 13, 2016 #236 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I have no horse in this race, but it perturbs me that RCCL did NOT mention azipod damage until the news got ahold of it. They didn't really lie, they just didn't fully inform families waiting on news from the ship, and the passengers on it. I hate the secrecy. The buying public has a right to know in real time. I don't blame the Captain, I blame RCCL, and probably will not sail with them again until they change their logic in this type of situation. I own furniture from a company that got swallowed up 30+ years ago. White of Mebane. Good furniture, sleep on it every night. Eat on it 6 times a year. I think you are clueless about what happened. Ship doesn't sail, holy he double hockey sticks breaks out. Ship sails what happened happened. Can't win in that scenario. Until you get the people booking vacations smarter than the hosts of Entertainment Tonight... What the heck do you expect. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted February 13, 2016 #237 Share Posted February 13, 2016 At a Captain's Corner on the Quantum, the ship engineer mentioned that the class was designed for up to a 45 degree list. In another thread, a passenger on the ship talked to the Captain who told him the max list on the Feb 6 sailing was 22 degrees. My skepticism of that claim is off the charts, but it is possible, but none of the people reporting live that had any credibility demonstrated that. So, I am guessing 10 to 14 was the max list. Could be 22, yes. Doubt it. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #238 Share Posted February 13, 2016 At a Captain's Corner on the Quantum, the ship engineer mentioned that the class was designed for up to a 45 degree list. In another thread, a passenger on the ship talked to the Captain who told him the max list on the Feb 6 sailing was 22 degrees. Figured as much. Here is someone else citing the same 45 degree requirement I cited. Cruise ships are required to be able to right themselves after tilting at a 45 degree angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #239 Share Posted February 13, 2016 He is long gone from Royal Caribbean. Then ask any cruise ship captain. They all know the SOLAS requirement that ship must be able to right itself after tilting 45 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #240 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Here is someone else citing the same 45 degree requirement I cited. Cruise ships are required to be able to right themselves after tilting at a 45 degree angle. What? Where did you see that? 45 degrees on a ship like that and balconies are under water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #241 Share Posted February 13, 2016 What? Where did you see that? 45 degrees on a ship like that and balconies are under water. You need to sharpen your reading skills. I didn't say the Anthem tilted 45 degrees. I said that it is a SOLAS requirement that a cruise ship must be able to right itself after tilting 45 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted February 13, 2016 #242 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Anthem is sailing Saturday, see RCL website, and yes, I would not have cancelled any booking I might have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #243 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You need to sharpen your reading skills. I didn't say the Anthem tilted 45 degrees. I said that it is a SOLAS requirement that a cruise ship must be able to right itself after tilting 45 degrees. Yes to which I reply what? Where did you see such a requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #244 Share Posted February 13, 2016 You need to sharpen your reading skills. I didn't say the Anthem tilted 45 degrees. I said that it is a SOLAS requirement that a cruise ship must be able to right itself after tilting 45 degrees. This is 45 degrees with no wind or waves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #245 Share Posted February 13, 2016 This is 45 degrees with no wind or waves That ship is resting on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #246 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yes to which I reply what? Where did you see such a requirement? It is a SOLAS requirement. It is on the Royal Caribbean DVD describing the building of the Voyager class ships. One of Royal Caribbean's captains mentioned it during a Captain's Corner. Another poster stated the ship's engineer mentioned it during a Captain's Corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #247 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I don't think any ship in open water with wind and waves is righting itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #248 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I don't think any ship in open water with wind and waves is righting itself Take it up with the people that write the SOLAS regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #249 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Take it up with the people that write the SOLAS regulations. I have been searching SOLAS requirements and can't find anything to substantiate your claim. If you can post a link so that I could see it, I would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 13, 2016 #250 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I have been searching SOLAS requirements and can't find anything to substantiate your claim. If you can post a link so that I could see it, I would appreciate it. Here you go ... http://www.mar.ist.utl.pt/mventura/Projecto-Navios-I/IMO-Conventions%20(copies)/SOLAS.pdf It is 910 pages and no table of contents. It would be easier to ask the captain or chief engineer on your next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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