nolesrule Posted December 16, 2016 #76 Share Posted December 16, 2016 While I agree with your grammar correction, it's not how the history of TIPS is explained. There are plenty of etymological refutations of the acronym theory from reputable sources if you hunt for them on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted December 16, 2016 #77 Share Posted December 16, 2016 My question is, do the staff have any idea who removes the auto grats? I know it's not a popular move, but I'm seriously considering removing this sailing. I seriously doubt they will spend time and effort to distribute a list...why would they? It is just a urban myth that is kept up here on CC to discourage people from removing... I you want to make sure...just remove on the last night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted December 16, 2016 #78 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I have seen "the list" as have many others. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BekkaW Posted December 16, 2016 #79 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm sure I will completely screw up my thoughts on this, but here goes. Since they went to automatic gratuities, overall, I find I pay a lot less in tips to the usual tipped staff (dining/stateroom host). Why? Because, since I've already paid tips, I just don't think about it. The last couple of cruises I've experienced subpar service in the dining room. Drinks not being refilled, rolls not being offered (or taking forever with this), SUPER slow service, etc. I'm not a picky diner, but I also don't like that they are getting "full" tips based on this new system, and THEN have the nerve to try to guilt me into rave reviews... Only have experienced this with dining room staff, never with stateroom host. When deserved I tip cash in the DL and elsewhere. My question is, do the staff have any idea who removes the auto grats? I know it's not a popular move, but I'm seriously considering removing this sailing. The very few times I have had sub par service I have raised it with a senior member of staff. I would never remove the tips without first giving them an opportunity to correct the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleonwater Posted December 17, 2016 #80 Share Posted December 17, 2016 The very few times I have had sub par service I have raised it with a senior member of staff. I would never remove the tips without first giving them an opportunity to correct the issue. I promise I'm not just being stubborn here, but I still don't any harm in removing them and tipping in person at the end of the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 18, 2016 #81 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I promise I'm not just being stubborn here, but I still don't any harm in removing them and tipping in person at the end of the cruise. I think the challenge is that if you do that, there's no harm, but there's also no advantage to you or the crew. In theory, it might save them the credit card fees, but the person you're tipping is almost certainly still sharing the tip, so any savings are probably washed out in the aggregate. So most of us chose to follow the simplest path... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted December 18, 2016 #82 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I seriously doubt they will spend time and effort to distribute a list...why would they? It is just a urban myth that is kept up here on CC to discourage people from removing... I you want to make sure...just remove on the last night.... I have seen the list myself on the housekeeping cart. Others have reported seeing it posted in the kitchen during their tour of the area. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted December 18, 2016 #83 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I promise I'm not just being stubborn here, but I still don't any harm in removing them and tipping in person at the end of the cruise. It is more work for the crew members and there is a risk that they actually will not get to keep the entire amount you give them. Furthermore, on the last night or whatever they don't want to be carrying around dozens of envelopes full of money that can be mislaid. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaofwonder Posted December 18, 2016 #84 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Put it on a credit card that earns multiple points for a travel category. Win win. Use travel credit on Chase Sapphire Reserved and get the gratuities for free (or nearly). Not sure I understand the need to make it more complicated by trying to pay people in cash. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted December 18, 2016 #85 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I promise I'm not just being stubborn here, but I still don't any harm in removing them and tipping in person at the end of the cruise. You can do that. The cash you give them at the end will be pooled along with everyone's tips, cash or daily, and then be pooled. Either way, your money is pooled and goes to everyone that is paid through the pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenp Posted December 18, 2016 #86 Share Posted December 18, 2016 That´s not tipping that buying the staff !!!! That spoils it for the rest of us !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenp Posted December 18, 2016 #87 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Yes, $10 above the pre paid tips. We like Blue Moon. On Serenade, none seemed to be stocked at any bar. A lead bartender checked stock and then had Blue Moon for us. Easy $10 cash tip. We attended various tasting events while on the cruise. The bartender was outstanding and very knowledgeable, not to mention funny too. The tasting cost $25. He was so good I gave him a $20 tip. I had Blue Moon for the rest of the cruise. Happy Cruiser. That´s not tipping that buying the staff !!!! That spoils it for the rest of us !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiraz49 Posted December 18, 2016 #88 Share Posted December 18, 2016 That´s not tipping that buying the staff !!!! That spoils it for the rest of us !!! Most of the bar staff work pretty hard at "buying" me ..... and it works, a couple of another drink "Sir Thomas" and they're my go to bar staff. Tip them as the cruise progresses. Just a silly little thing but it helps make a cruise more memorable. Cheers T & M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 18, 2016 #89 Share Posted December 18, 2016 It is more work for the crew members and there is a risk that they actually will not get to keep the entire amount you give them. Furthermore, on the last night or whatever they don't want to be carrying around dozens of envelopes full of money that can be mislaid. Sent from my iPad using Forums Yes, I am sure the staff hates envelopes stuffed with money. They never looked too disturbed to get those envelopes before the invention of auto gratuities and they never seem too unhappy to get the extra that I hand them now. And I bet the extra that I give them doesn't get mislaid either. You don't know what they "don't want" any more than I or anyone else does.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted December 18, 2016 #90 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Yes, I am sure the staff hates envelopes stuffed with money. They never looked too disturbed to get those envelopes before the invention of auto gratuities and they never seem too unhappy to get the extra that I hand them now. And I bet the extra that I give them doesn't get mislaid either. You don't know what they "don't want" any more than I or anyone else does.:rolleyes: ever see an assistant server try and stuff the tenth envelope into his jacket pocket? I have. when his hands came out so did half the envelopes again. at least 2 dropped onto the floor. all while he was trying to continue performing his duties. they do not have to time right then and there to carefully arrange the money to fit neatly anywhere upon their person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted December 18, 2016 #91 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On the cruise we came off on Dec 17/16. We gave our room Steward. He was happy for the extra but didn't expect for the extra. I'm assuming that many don't give more than the standard gratuity . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted December 18, 2016 #92 Share Posted December 18, 2016 they do not have to time right then and there to carefully arrange the money to fit neatly anywhere upon their person. Then how would anyone ever know how much they truly had and who is shaking them down for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 19, 2016 #93 Share Posted December 19, 2016 ever see an assistant server try and stuff the tenth envelope into his jacket pocket? I have. when his hands came out so did half the envelopes again. at least 2 dropped onto the floor. all while he was trying to continue performing his duties. they do not have to time right then and there to carefully arrange the money to fit neatly anywhere upon their person. Then I guess people should stop offering extra tips above the auto gratuities since this extra money is, obviously, a major burden to the crew.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 19, 2016 #94 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Then I guess people should stop offering extra tips above the auto gratuities since this extra money is, obviously, a major burden to the crew.:rolleyes: You know, i used to just tip at the end in the lounges, but lately it's by the drink. That is somewhat awkward on occasion until they realize that is your process. When using the drinks on sea pass, i always hand them a buck or two when i hand them my sea pass. That works easier. smooth tansaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted December 19, 2016 #95 Share Posted December 19, 2016 You know, i used to just tip at the end in the lounges, but lately it's by the drink. That is somewhat awkward on occasion until they realize that is your process. When using the drinks on sea pass, i always hand them a buck or two when i hand them my sea pass. That works easier. smooth tansaction I truly believe it improves our cruise doing this. We don't nearly have the issues others mention or complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted December 19, 2016 #96 Share Posted December 19, 2016 You know, i used to just tip at the end in the lounges, but lately it's by the drink. That is somewhat awkward on occasion until they realize that is your process. When using the drinks on sea pass, i always hand them a buck or two when i hand them my sea pass. That works easier. smooth tansaction I think this is a good idea as we just got off harmony and used both lounges and the drink coupons also, yes we drank our share:p. Shout out to the DC staff and their pours;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 19, 2016 #97 Share Posted December 19, 2016 You know, i used to just tip at the end in the lounges, but lately it's by the drink. That is somewhat awkward on occasion until they realize that is your process. When using the drinks on sea pass, i always hand them a buck or two when i hand them my sea pass. That works easier. smooth tansaction I agree, and I also think this contributes to not getting a receipt to sign when you have a drink package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troykahack Posted December 19, 2016 #98 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I agree, and I also think this contributes to not getting a receipt to sign when you have a drink package. I wondered why we seldom got a slip on Serenade. I thought it might have been a change in policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 19, 2016 #99 Share Posted December 19, 2016 You know, i used to just tip at the end in the lounges, but lately it's by the drink. That is somewhat awkward on occasion until they realize that is your process. When using the drinks on sea pass, i always hand them a buck or two when i hand them my sea pass. That works easier. smooth tansaction With the drinks on the seapass I used to tip a bartender at the beginning of the week and tell him that he would be taking care of my diamond drinks for the week and then tip him again at the end of the week. I have started tipping per drink because I don't always catch the same bartender. Since I rarely catch a drink in the Diamond Lounge I have no system that I use in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 19, 2016 #100 Share Posted December 19, 2016 With the drinks on the seapass I used to tip a bartender at the beginning of the week and tell him that he would be taking care of my diamond drinks for the week and then tip him again at the end of the week. I have started tipping per drink because I don't always catch the same bartender. Since I rarely catch a drink in the Diamond Lounge I have no system that I use in there. We're on MJ in a few weeks, they do a diamond event. I think I'll just tip when I order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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