The "little things" are adding up.

[TriCoachCruising]

Pretty sure you need to go all the way to Star class to see the rates 10X higher.

 

Nov 5, 2017 Allure PP pricing not including taxes

 

Inside $709

 

Owners Loft $7,567

 

Ok, see your point. We booked the Harmony 2BR Aquatheater Suite (Star Class) for 10,149 for 4 people ($2637 pp) inside cabin is $888 pp. rate is 3X higher.

[John&LaLa]

Ok, see your point. We booked the Harmony 2BR Aquatheater Suite (Star Class) for 10,149 for 4 people ($2637 pp) inside cabin is $888 pp. rate is 3X higher.

 

Go ahead and shove 4 more in and really bring your cost PP down. ;)

[Hotel CA]

Just spent 5 days in GS on Indy and must admit that even though we love the ship --all the little things and some of the big have disapeared from Royal suites (unless you are on Oasis class ship it seems)-- we will vote with our wallet and move on as it seems the Mass part of mass market has taken over Royal thought process-- very little of anything was bad just alot of OK and that wont fly for people spending the dollars needed for a suite.

[njm5378]

These threads are ridiculous. Move on already. People complain about the things that are lost but never mention the things that are added. You get CK, a dedicated restaurant, and lose a close line and a pillow menu. You get a dedicate lounge with free drinks but no chocolates on your pillow. I think its time to book an Aqua Theater or Crown Loft suite on Princess or NCL. Oh wait..

[Biker19]

On Princess, they still put chocolate on the pillows every night for every cabin, popcorn at the evening movies is free (it is now $2.50 here for the evening shows in the aqua theatre), you are able to make reservations for the speciality restaurants easily while almost every speciality restaurant was fully booked for the whole cruise by the end of the first day on this cruise.

 

....they also don't charge extra for the illigal pollution.:p

[setsail]

Just spent 5 days in GS on Indy and must admit that even though we love the ship --all the little things and some of the big have disapeared from Royal suites (unless you are on Oasis class ship it seems)-- we will vote with our wallet and move on as it seems the Mass part of mass market has taken over Royal thought process-- very little of anything was bad just alot of OK and that wont fly for people spending the dollars needed for a suite.

 

The first time we stayed in a GS was about 18 years ago. Guess what we got, a larger cabin, that's about it. No SL,CK,sl,reserved seating, escort off the ship at the end, drinks with no upcharge, and several other things. I will take today's suite over yesterday's , Anyday

[Canada 59]

Konningsdam has clotheslines in all cabins and USB outlets as well[emoji3]

 

 

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[BuffetPantsPls]

I would honestly say, why the message conveyed may not be the best form, I do feel it's a legitimate point.

 

This is totally anecdotal, but it's totally like the cruise industry is moving toward what the airline industry has been doing. You want pop corn? 2$ How about a hot dog? 2.5$ Drinks are no longer all included, they now cap you @ 12$ for instance. Tack on specialty dining and making the regular dinner course more generic, it's no longer a relaxing vacation, but rather a trip where i need to think about what i care to spend on or not.

 

I get the a-la carte pricing. You get more people packed onto the ship and it allows those who dont want to pay for something to not pay for it.

 

But perhaps I'm reminiscing but i recall cruising was just more all-inclusive about 10 years back.

[cb at sea]

NCL has the BEST suite perks going.....If I was gonna spring for a full suite, that's the cruise line on which I'd do it!

[Ourusualbeach]

The first time we stayed in a GS was about 18 years ago. Guess what we got, a larger cabin, that's about it. No SL,CK,sl,reserved seating, escort off the ship at the end, drinks with no upcharge, and several other things. I will take today's suite over yesterday's , Anyday

 

And it probably cost about the same today as it did 18 years ago.

[Carole2313]

I forgot to list no fresh squeezed OJ anymore, you have to pay for room service food now and they charging $25pp for the luggage valet but they will take that change off at CS if you stand in line for 45 minutes or so.

 

 

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[stickyshocker]

I forgot to list no fresh squeezed OJ anymore, you have to pay for room service food now and they charging $25pp for the luggage valet but they will take that change off at CS if you stand in line for 45 minutes or so.

 

 

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Bring the LV issue to concierge, she will address it and re assure you that it'll be removed on the last day... and it will.

 

 

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[LMaxwell]

No one can post anything but praise without getting picked on.

[luckyprincess]

I did lol at the confusion over pillow menus! :p I love these when I stay at land resorts as it's just another wonderful luxury perk! Who doesn't like perks?

 

I will say this. When I purchase a vacation with my hard earned money I expect exactly what is advertised. Exactly. If I am to get a Jacuzzi on my balcony and a pillow menu it had better be there or I will call to the highest person I can find to be compensated. I work hard for my money. I have a very physical job and when I vacation I like to pamper myself. I spend the money I have on the packages I want. If I spend the money and the product is not delivered I'll make sure it is or I get compensated. I'm in the service industry and my clients get 110% every time.

 

It baffles me when people laugh at posts where people aren't getting the things they paid for. Do they smile like idiots at the gas station if they get charged for $20 and get $15? Do they nod their heads like a lemming when the grocery store overcharges for the items they actually purchased? Why is a vacation any different? I stayed at The Hyatt Ziva in Jamaica. They advertised certain things in our room that we paid for. Those things were not there. I made sure to go to the desk and get compensated nicely. I'm not stupid and my money is important to me. I'm not going to pay for things not delivered. It's just not smart imo.

[ColoradoGurl]

I had a laundry string in my cheap steerage cabin, and there were pillows and a (room service) menu. Sometimes little things mean a lot. :D

 

 

I had a laundry string in my steerage cabin too. But if I had to pay 10x more money for my cruise in order to be in a cabin that had one, I'd just improvise and use a hanger, lol. I don't see those kinds of amenities as being worth paying extra for I guess. And I just thought it was funny the way the poster got defensive by saying she pays 10x more than the rest of us in preparation of people telling her she was a complainer, as though she was automatically setting herself apart from everyone else and talking down to us as though we couldn't possibly understand her plight. But I guess she's right because I think she's nuts, lol.

 

 

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[ColoradoGurl]

People, people, I don't think the OP was talking about receiving a menu on their pillow. I could be wrong but I think they meant there was no pillow menu, meaning there are various pillows listed and you may choose the type you want.

 

 

Oh, haha! Well shows what a rube I am because I've never had the pleasure of getting a pillow menu, but I'll also admit that if they offered me one for an up charge I wouldn't find value in it and would decline. She did say though that she didn't receive her $10,000 laundry string, which is equally ridiculous to not getting a menu on your pillow.

 

 

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[VASOXFANN]

I did lol at the confusion over pillow menus! :p I love these when I stay at land resorts as it's just another wonderful luxury perk! Who doesn't like perks?

 

I will say this. When I purchase a vacation with my hard earned money I expect exactly what is advertised. Exactly. If I am to get a Jacuzzi on my balcony and a pillow menu it had better be there or I will call to the highest person I can find to be compensated. I work hard for my money. I have a very physical job and when I vacation I like to pamper myself. I spend the money I have on the packages I want. If I spend the money and the product is not delivered I'll make sure it is or I get compensated. I'm in the service industry and my clients get 110% every time.

 

It baffles me when people laugh at posts where people aren't getting the things they paid for. Do they smile like idiots at the gas station if they get charged for $20 and get $15? Do they nod their heads like a lemming when the grocery store overcharges for the items they actually purchased? Why is a vacation any different? I stayed at The Hyatt Ziva in Jamaica. They advertised certain things in our room that we paid for. Those things were not there. I made sure to go to the desk and get compensated nicely. I'm not stupid and my money is important to me. I'm not going to pay for things not delivered. It's just not smart imo.

 

It's not what was said, but how it was said.

[VASOXFANN]

I had a laundry string in my steerage cabin too. But if I had to pay 10x more money for my cruise in order to be in a cabin that had one, I'd just improvise and use a hanger, lol. I don't see those kinds of amenities as being worth paying extra for I guess. And I just thought it was funny the way the poster got defensive by saying she pays 10x more than the rest of us in preparation of people telling her she was a complainer, as though she was automatically setting herself apart from everyone else and talking down to us as though we couldn't possibly understand her plight. But I guess she's right because I think she's nuts, lol.

 

 

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Great minds think alike :D

 

I'll pay for an expensive room when the occasion and scenery warrant it, but for the most part, I'd rather pay less and take more cruises. I take no issue with those who do things differently as long as they don't get all braggadocious about it. :rolleyes:

[ColoradoGurl]

No one can post anything but praise without getting picked on.

 

 

It's not the complaints, it's the things they chose to list as being worth such an exorbitant amount of money that seemed silly to me. And also the attitude of being defensive and telling people that they spend more money than everyone else, which only shows they are bad price shoppers and that they don't realize there are plenty of other people on these boards who have the same kind of money. That was the issue I took from it. If it had been written a bit more diplomatically I could sympathize with the disappointment of not having expectations met, but from the way it was written, makes it sound like this person is just another stuck up, entitled, hard to please person who thinks they're better than everyone else. And they probably aren't.

 

 

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[ColoradoGurl]

Great minds think alike :D

 

 

 

I'll pay for an expensive room when the occasion and scenery warrant it, but for the most part, I'd rather pay less and take more cruises. I take no issue with those who do things differently as long as they don't get all braggadocious about it. :rolleyes:

 

 

Ha! Yes we are in total agreement. I finally just got to the end of this thread and see we basically had all the same responses to the issue at hand. I also notice that the original poster never did come back, which is typical.

 

 

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[bertrande]

OP - we were on the Harmony in June, sailing in Sky class. No chocolates, no clotheslines but I didn't expect those so no loss to me. I am not sure what was promised you but I didn't think there was a lot, if any, missing. We loved CK, the free internet, the cabin and the lounge and we thought service (bear in mind this was only the first cruise out of Barcelona) was great if a little unsettled. The Royal IQ app was a mess, our reservations were cancelled out of the blue but nothing the helpful concierge couldn't sort out. Sorry you are not enjoying yourself though.

[luckyprincess]

It's not what was said, but how it was said.

 

I agree that pulling the 10x card is off putting. I think if you spent that much you probably are just bad at sales or negotiating. But the people saying 'oh who cares that you didn't get a pillow menu!!' boo hoo' and the like sound as stupid as someone saying 'I paid for milk at the store and they didn't give it to me in my bag but boo hoo!! I still got the soda I paid for! Jeez, what do you expect? What you paid for?? Duh!' to me. I mean, you have to agree that berating someone for being pissed at not getting items advertised in the price they paid is pretty stupid, right? It's like saying well you had a good shopping trip and got lots of other good things that you paid for so who cares if you got the milk you paid for?!

 

Even the entitled deserve to get what they paid for ;)

[Pipo]

I think the OP was just making the point that the cruising experience is deteriorating for the price. I think most of us have noticed this, it's up to each cruiser to determine whether the cuts are sufficiently big to warrant changing lines

 

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If she's in Harmony, I believe her. I paid back in June for a 7-night on a regular ocean-view balcony, the same that I paid in the Celebrity Reflection for a 12-night sailing in a large balcony cabin, with better service, food, gratuities, alcoholic package for two, and $500 OBC, just nine months before.

Harmony is insanely overpriced, and the product is not even close as it used to be on RCI three years ago. For me, Celebrity is the cruise line with the best value right now, and yes, I know that it belongs to RC corp.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Pipo

[setsail]

No matter how many times you compare an apple and a orange they just don't seem to match up

[vacationlover_mn]

I am intrigued by this pillow menu thing... what is the lowest level of suite you need to be, in order to request a pillow menu?

 

 

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