Depsicable Line Cutters

[Skyesong]

We still haven't done our first cruise yet (302 days to go!), but a number of years ago I went to a small island that we have been going to for years. Every time we go somewhere, we always spot someone at the airport and say 'they're the ones!' and you just know you will run into them everywhere. So I spotted this lot within about two minutes of being at the airport. First up they had a tantrum because they wanted the exit row seats, but were refused because of their age and they got given to me instead. Then we get to security and they had another tanty because the line I was in moved quicker than theirs. Security quietly stepped over and took them off for an additional search (haha!). There were a few other incidences with boarding and then they stopped by the exit row and argued with me to try and get me to move until the flight attendant told them to sit down and brought me a glass of champagne 'for dealing with all the inconvenience' whilst giving them a glare. Finally we get to the island and they push themselves off the plane first. They get their bags about ten seconds before mine, and they shove me to get into the immigration line ahead of me. Only for the chief officer to come over and greet me, and takes us out of the queue and processes us through straight away without waiting. Their heads exploded.

 

Why do I have a feeling they've probably been on a few cruises?

[FireStation46]

The few times it happens I call them out with vigor. Most slink away. The few that ignore my call out I am glad I dont know them. I do point them out to others if they are at the bar or elsewhere when I am there.

 

To ignore they only emboldens them IMHO

[jammer5122]

When they are standing so close.... be careful that you don't ACCIDENTLY step on their toes.

The world is full of dirtbags, The are everywhere. The trick is to not let them get to you. I often enjoy observing bad behavior and laughing at those people, you must feel sorry for them being the hated losers of the world. For me the worst behavior that almost makes me explode and go insane is when you're in a line and the person behind you is pushing up against you, touching you with themselves or their tray or whatever. I just want to shout, DON'T STAND SO CLOSE TO ME!

[GUT2407]

Me, me, me, me.

 

Plus

 

No respect for anyone

[AuntAupie]

"Isuspect you are right about the crew. In fact, most people are always one ortwo mistakes away from being fired. The crew cannot afford any complaints, nomatter how wrong the complainer's behavior is."

Yes, thisis EXACTLY it.

Around day10 of the Harmony TA my husband and I were walking past the Adventure Ocean areawhere we saw a few boys, probably 13 or 14 years old, with ice cream cones fromthe self serve machine right outside. They had brought them inside the hallway, but only to throw them as hardas they could against the walls, smashing them everywhere!

Of coursewe confronted them, but when they realized they were in trouble, they allran. A couple of them got away, but I followed one outside while myhusband went into Adventure Ocean to get a staff member. They came out tothe ice cream machine where I was standing with the boy, and we started 'discussing'it.

While all thiswas happening, there was a junior crew member there restocking theice cream cones, and when he heard what we were talking about, he very reluctantlysaid "those boys have been doing the same thing every single day."

It wasclear that because he was ?just staff? he was afraid to stand up to the guests,even if they were juvenile delinquents in training, and conflicted whether he shouldeven say anything at all to the management staff. It must be very difficult for employees tosee that kind of obnoxious behavior and not feel free to report it.

Anothertime, we had taken a few cruises within a couple of months on Indy and so wehad gotten to know one of the dining room waiters fairly well. He wasvery good, but not someone who had a super outgoing personality.

We weresurprised to see him in the Windjammer one night, so we asked him what happened. He was almost afraid to say, but he finally told us that he had gotten acouple of average marks on the surveys, and so he got demoted to theWindjammer. He was absolutely devastated about it, because that meant a bigcut in pay.

So, yes,even just a few less-than-perfect comments, let alone a complaint, from apassenger can make a huge difference in whether the staff keep their job, orlose it.

I would saythat expecting the Sorrento?s staff to tell a passenger not to cut the linewould definitely be out of the question.

[AuntAupie]

I'm sorry, I don't know why all the words ran together ...??

[Johngee]

I'm sorry, I don't know why all the words ran together ...??

It's OK I'm sure someone will squeeze in-between them.

 

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[lbjen]

I worked at my son's school for a while and saw first hand how some parents will defend their children for almost anything. In the incident AuntAupie describes, I can imagine the parents threatening to have the staff fired for daring to accuse their precious sons, who are 'angels at home and never do anything like this'. One of their crew-mates probably learned the hard way early on and they've all taken note.

[bobmacliberty]

in other words, his experience has been a total 180 of the train station you experienced. Where were those stations? How recently was it?

 

 

This was about 15 years ago near Kobe on a local commuter train. I agree that Tokyo is a whole different situation.

[DCGuy64]

I worked at my son's school for a while and saw first hand how some parents will defend their children for almost anything. In the incident AuntAupie describes, I can imagine the parents threatening to have the staff fired for daring to accuse their precious sons, who are 'angels at home and never do anything like this'. One of their crew-mates probably learned the hard way early on and they've all taken note.

 

 

 

Some of my friends who are teachers can back that up, too. That's okay, if those kids get coddled like that, they'll eventually have problems with law enforcement and cops won't care about their precious feelings-as it should be. Either discipline kids now or the judicial system will do it later.

 

 

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[luckyinpa]

When they are standing so close.... be careful that you don't ACCIDENTLY step on their toes.

 

 

hopefully no one wears open toed shoes on a cruise and you dont hurt them

[hbgroadends]

I worked at my son's school for a while and saw first hand how some parents will defend their children for almost anything. In the incident AuntAupie describes, I can imagine the parents threatening to have the staff fired for daring to accuse their precious sons, who are 'angels at home and never do anything like this'. One of their crew-mates probably learned the hard way early on and they've all taken note.

 

It is a real shame when parents do this. They do not realize the disservice they are doing not only to their children but to society in general. The children end up struggling, have no empathy, or having an overwhelming sense of entitlement, or all three.

[StolidCruiser]

hopefully no one wears open toed shoes on a cruise and you dont hurt them

 

 

With the preponderance of people wanting to wear "sandals" (often referred to as fancy flip-flops) from the pool to the dining room, this is the avenue I take to persuade them their choice of footwear (and conduct) is questionable.

[moonltnite]

It is a real shame when parents do this. They do not realize the disservice they are doing not only to their children but to society in general. The children end up struggling, have no empathy, or having an overwhelming sense of entitlement, or all three.

 

Our daughter teaches 7th grade Language Arts/Reading. When kids fail a test, they have to have their parents sign the test and return it to school. After the kids in one class all came in and sat down, she watched as one pulled out his failed test paper - and signed his parent's signature. She escorted him to the office - and the asst. principal had the mother come in. This mother promptly claimed she had signed the test that prior night. Our daughter explained she had witnessed this boy sign the test himself right in front of her. The mother kept denying it - and accused our daughter of lying.

 

This is just one example - and nearly daily she tells us about some parent that has defended their child's bad behavior. Many parents these days just want to be "buddies" with their kids - or just want them out of their hair. They don't want to discipline their kids. It just fuels the whole "entitled" thing - as these kids grow up into adults that expect everything to go their way.

[lady_cruiser]

..........

 

Most of the people on this cruise were awesome, just those two instances stick out. I had forgotten about it till now. That's what I get .

 

I think you handled it just right. I just wish I would speak up.

[island lady]

Funny how this thread went from rude passengers that cut in line, to....

unruly children in need of real parenting. ;)

[dwayneb236]

Yeah, we all know the real issue here is my initial misspelling of the word Despicable.

[island lady]

Yeah, we all know the real issue here is my initial misspelling of the word Despicable.

 

 

Oh...Despicable me...or...wait. Isn't that a movie? ;p

[vacationlover_mn]

Lol- so, on a related note, a SUPER grumpy lady yelled at me for linecutting when we got to the port in Ft Lauderdale for Harmony! And I completely wasn't! I don't feel too bad, since every time we saw her after that, she was yelling at people :)

 

Here is what happened... we get to the port pretty early. We go through the first security line quickly. We get to that big room where you have to pick a line. Hardly anyone was there yet, so you just needed to walk up to a window to be helped. There were deck numbers listed, and I realized we might have entered the wrong side. There was a worker guy, standing near us, and the mean lady standing with a couple of her friends maybe 10 ft from him talking with her friends... NOT in any kind of line... I walked up to the guy and asked about if we needed to go to the other side, and the mean lady started yelling- "did you see that! She just cut in front of me!!". I was so confused... and the guy said- "Just ignore her" and he pointed me to a nearby spot to check in...

 

I jokingly called her my "nemesis" all week :)

 

 

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[NJporkroll]

Like Chip said to Anthony, " Waz dat?" Freakin Chippa

 

 

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[gerif]

Yeah, we all know the real issue here is my initial misspelling of the word Despicable.

 

 

Not a misspelling at all, just a transposition of letters a/k/a typographical error.

[dwayneb236]

Like Chip said to Anthony, " Waz dat?" Freakin Chippa

 

 

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Hey, you just won the award for most confusing post of the morning.

[DCGuy64]

Funny how this thread went from rude passengers that cut in line, to....

unruly children in need of real parenting. ;)

 

 

 

I plead guilty to expanding the topic a bit too much. However, those of us of a certain age can see how lack of parenting in the early years may contribute to a plethora of thoughtless and rude adults later on. [emoji6]

 

 

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[luckyinpa]

Hey, you just won the award for most confusing post of the morning.

 

 

looks like a tshirt

 

http://www.tvshowtees.com/view/233033/chippa-freakin--mhlati-backstage-tv-character-t-shirt

[moonltnite]

I plead guilty to expanding the topic a bit too much. However, those of us of a certain age can see how lack of parenting in the early years may contribute to a plethora of thoughtless and rude adults later on. [emoji6]

 

 

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My DH and I are also of a "certain age" - and yes, this "lazy parenting" has been going on for a generation or so - and I see that impact on MANY young adults, particularly on my daily commute into the city. (Not saying ALL are bad - but a hefty percentage are!) Lots of pushing/shoving and self-centered behavior.