Reina del Mar Posted April 22, 2017 #1 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just returned from a cruise on Royal Princess. Rather concerned to find passengers re filling water bottles directly from water fountains at Horizon Court. Happy to drink ship's water and for those who wish to re fill bottles to do so, but really think there should be signs instructing passengers to fill a clean cup and decant water to their own bottle, instead of this unhygienic practice !!!! :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile: No signs and didn't see anyone alerted from doing this. What do you think ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesK2020 Posted April 22, 2017 #2 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Couldn't agree more! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 22, 2017 #3 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just returned from a cruise on Royal Princess. Rather concerned to find passengers re filling water bottles directly from water fountains at Horizon Court. Happy to drink ship's water and for those who wish to re fill bottles to do so, but really think there should be signs instructing passengers to fill a clean cup and decant water to their own bottle, instead of this unhygienic practice !!!! :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile: No signs and didn't see anyone alerted from doing this. What do you think ???? Since the Royal cruises out of the US part of the year, I'm surprised there is no signage, as this is a USPH violation not to have signage to this effect. In Europe, the ship fall under the EU ShipSan program, which while similar is not as comprehensive as the USPH VSP, and I see no mention of refilling beverage containers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted April 22, 2017 #4 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just returned from a cruise on Royal Princess. Rather concerned to find passengers re filling water bottles directly from water fountains at Horizon Court. Happy to drink ship's water and for those who wish to re fill bottles to do so, but really think there should be signs instructing passengers to fill a clean cup and decant water to their own bottle, instead of this unhygienic practice !!!! :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile: No signs and didn't see anyone alerted from doing this. What do you think ???? There is a reason why there is no sign because inconsiderate people would always ignore it or feel the rule doesn't apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted April 22, 2017 #5 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I've seen the signs but people don't usually pay much attention to them. Actually with the guard they have on the dispensers it's difficult have the dispenser come in touch with your bottle. (unless you really try) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 22, 2017 #6 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I've seen the signs but people don't usually pay much attention to them. Actually with the guard they have on the dispensers it's difficult have the dispenser come in touch with your bottle. (unless you really try) The dispenser spout is only one part of the possible cross-contamination. Most of these dispensers use a "push bar" to activate, where the glass is used to press a lever to open the valve. Parts of a used glass that had come in contact with a person's mouth or hands, will touch the push bar, and transfer any germs to the next glass that touches the push bar. This is why RCI, for one example, has gone to "touchless" dispensers, like their freestyle machines, where you must press a button to dispense, not use the glass to touch anything. These machines, whether soda or water, are exempt from the ban on reusing glassware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashna Posted April 22, 2017 #7 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I had mine filled at the pool bar where they would fill my container with ice and water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted April 22, 2017 #8 Share Posted April 22, 2017 How many people have actually gotten sick from this type of contamination? Is it really that great of a problem or is it just germaphobes worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted April 22, 2017 #9 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The dispenser spout is only one part of the possible cross-contamination. Most of these dispensers use a "push bar" to activate, where the glass is used to press a lever to open the valve. Parts of a used glass that had come in contact with a person's mouth or hands, will touch the push bar, and transfer any germs to the next glass that touches the push bar. This is why RCI, for one example, has gone to "touchless" dispensers, like their freestyle machines, where you must press a button to dispense, not use the glass to touch anything. These machines, whether soda or water, are exempt from the ban on reusing glassware. I believe Princess has mostly push buttons on their dispensers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted April 22, 2017 #10 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I travel with a small bottle of dish soap and my refillable water bottle is washed out with the soap and hot water between refills (breakfast and lunch time). The staff in the Horizon Court will usually take my bottle and refill it for me directly at the water dispenser (same thing has happened on RCCL and HAL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted April 22, 2017 #11 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Hi,there is a sign on all the Princess ships,but I ignore it.I dont see a problem,my bottle doesnt touch the nozzle.I think public drinking fountains at various cities around the world present more of a risk.I know im going to get flamed but I think there are too many fussy people out there,cheers,Brian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted April 22, 2017 #12 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just returned from a cruise on Royal Princess. Rather concerned to find passengers re filling water bottles directly from water fountains at Horizon Court. Happy to drink ship's water and for those who wish to re fill bottles to do so, but really think there should be signs instructing passengers to fill a clean cup and decant water to their own bottle, instead of this unhygienic practice !!!! :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile: No signs and didn't see anyone alerted from doing this. What do you think ???? I agree......... I have seen signs in the past but it does not do any good. There are always those that don't give a *&^%. Same ones that use the toilets and walk out without washing their hands and head into the buffet. It is disgusting. Remember it is MY cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinChris Posted April 22, 2017 #13 Share Posted April 22, 2017 There are refill station all over airports these days. They are push button systems like those on Princess. I think the risk of contimination not that high. Reusable water bottles have a lid with a mouth piece or straw that's no where near that spout on the dispenser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted April 22, 2017 #14 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I agree......... I have seen signs in the past but it does not do any good. There are always those that don't give a *&^%. Same ones that use the toilets and walk out without washing their hands and head into the buffet. It is disgusting. Remember it is MY cruise. You cant tar me with that brush.I always carry out correct hygene in the toilet.These are 2 different things entirely,one is a serious contamination risk, the other,a germophobes paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 22, 2017 #15 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Hi,there is a sign on all the Princess ships,but I ignore it.I dont see a problem,my bottle doesnt touch the nozzle.I think public drinking fountains at various cities around the world present more of a risk.I know im going to get flamed but I think there are too many fussy people out there,cheers,Brian. While you don't think it's much of a problem, the regulation is set by the USPH/CDC, not the cruise line, and these folks are world renowned experts in contagious diseases and epidemiology, and if they feel it is a potential contamination source, I'll go along with the experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Woobstr112G Posted April 22, 2017 #16 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I agree......... I have seen signs in the past but it does not do any good. There are always those that don't give a *&^%. Same ones that use the toilets and walk out without washing their hands and head into the buffet. It is disgusting. Remember it is MY cruise. As do I.....:):):) Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclvr Posted April 22, 2017 #17 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just returned from a cruise on Royal Princess. Rather concerned to find passengers re filling water bottles directly from water fountains at Horizon Court. Happy to drink ship's water and for those who wish to re fill bottles to do so, but really think there should be signs instructing passengers to fill a clean cup and decant water to their own bottle, instead of this unhygienic practice !!!! :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile: No signs and didn't see anyone alerted from doing this. What do you think ???? The past two years on the Regal there have been signs about not refilling water bottles. I always us a clean glass to dispense the water then pour that into my bottles. The dispenser is push button. As others have mentioned, I have to wonder though about people refilling their used drink glasses...not all passengers set the cup down and push the button, some hold it up to the dispenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lew- Posted April 22, 2017 #18 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Since this topic has been expanded to include hand washing and Horizon Court, I'll add my pet peeve: People in the buffet line who pick up food from their plate with their fingers to taste and then handle serving tongs. They transfer germs from their lips to the tongs to be picked up by the next person using those tongs. Gross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selion Posted April 22, 2017 #19 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Hence I fill my water bottles with bottled water from the ship. Weird, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcruiser64 Posted April 22, 2017 #20 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I just use the room's bathroom sink and then put it in the refrig overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted April 22, 2017 #21 Share Posted April 22, 2017 How does this present a problem? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchananglasgow Posted April 22, 2017 #22 Share Posted April 22, 2017 There is more risk by just using the spoons to serve your breakfast/lunch in the buffet, then refilling water bottles. Can't see that any part of the rim of the bottle/bubba keg will touch any part of the push button or dispenser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted April 22, 2017 #23 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The fact is that airports, universities and public buildings have installed or are installing water bottle refill stations. Refilling directly into bottles without using any intermediary vessel is quickly becoming the norm. It is what people are or will be familiar with. This behavior isn't going away. Instead it will become more prevalent. We just have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reina del Mar Posted April 22, 2017 Author #24 Share Posted April 22, 2017 How does this present a problem? This does not present a problem. Filling a small nosed plastic bottle , where bottle touch nozzle does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alolewis Posted April 22, 2017 #25 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) According to some, then every fast food restaurant that allows consumers to fill their glass is unhealthy. Here is what the state of California says: e) Personal take-out beverage containers, such as thermally insulated bottles, non spill coffee cups, and promotional beverage glasses, may be refilled by employees or the consumer if refilling is a contamination-free process as specified in subdivision (a (a) Except for refilling a consumer's drinking cup or container without contact between the pouring utensil and the lip-contact area of the drinking cup or container, food employees shall not use tableware, including single-use articles, soiled by the consumer, to provide second portions or refills Since typically the portion of the water bottle that the lips touch is not what touches the nozzle, I would be more worried about a glass being refilled. Edited April 22, 2017 by alolewis some information duplicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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