nelblu Posted May 19, 2017 #1 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Per AARP: Starting next year, TSA cannot accept some state driver’s licenses that don’t meet acceptable security standards. Travelers, don’t say we didn’t warn you. Beginning in January 2018, driver’s licenses from some states may be rejected as a form of identification for boarding an aircraft. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA), while gradually implementing the REAL ID Act passed by Congress in 2005, has announced that starting next year it cannot accept some state driver’s licenses that don’t meet acceptable security standards. Residents of nine states — Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Washington — may need to use a passport or some other government-approved identification unless their driver’s licenses are changed by next year. Other states have been granted extensions while they prepare to comply with the requirement. Signs have been placed near checkpoints in some airports to notify passengers of the changing requirements. “This doesn’t mean that people will be told, ‘Hey, you can’t fly,’” a TSA spokesman said on Wednesday. “You’ll just have to have another form of ID.” Some states have raised privacy concerns, saying the ID requirements may produce information on individuals that can be compiled in a national database. “This is a game of intimidation being played out between Congress and the federal government and state governments, with ordinary citizens being squeezed in the middle,” Edward Hasbrouck of the Identity Project, a privacy advocate, told the New York Times in December. The REAL ID Act was based on recommendations of the 9/11 Commission to guard against terrorist attacks. Proponents say more stringent IDs may also ward off fraud and identity theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted May 19, 2017 #2 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Thanks for the info. I'm shocked Rhode Island is not on the list. We're pretty much last in everything except for beaches. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted May 19, 2017 #3 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I believe that is correct, at least there was an article in the paper this last week that CA got an extension to 2020. Just another reason to get a passport. As a side note the "approved" DL's allow access to the FAST lanes crossing from Mexico into USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 19, 2017 #4 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I believe that is correct, at least there was an article in the paper this last week that CA got an extension to 2020. Just another reason to get a passport. And a passport card.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted May 19, 2017 #5 Share Posted May 19, 2017 And a passport card.:) True, but I believe the "enhanced" DL will take the place of the passport card so no reason to have two documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted May 19, 2017 #6 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Actually, there has been a recent update regarding this and MN- https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2017/05/new-law-minnesota-becomes-last-state-comply-federal-real-id-act Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 19, 2017 #7 Share Posted May 19, 2017 True, but I believe the "enhanced" DL will take the place of the passport card so no reason to have two documents. Unless you are on your way to the airport, get a speeding ticket, and they take your license away like they sometimes do in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted May 19, 2017 #8 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The Peoples Republic of Maryland allows illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, so those are pretty much worthless for any form of identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted May 20, 2017 #9 Share Posted May 20, 2017 This has been delayed for some time to allow all the states to comply. I believe there are 5 states that have to do it, usually when your license is renewed. Delaware was a mess. They would not accept my passport book as legal ID........What the ####? Good luck folks.........it's up to the states to put that star on your license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted May 20, 2017 #10 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Peoples Republic of Maryland allows illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, so those are pretty much worthless for any form of identification. So does CA, so I guess they will have to issue two types come 2020. The article was pointing out how much money it was going to cost the State to switch. Any guess whose gonna pay that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted May 20, 2017 #11 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I believe there are 5 states that have to do it, usually when your license is renewed. Actually there are only a few States that currently comply. I think the number five is those that do. The enhanced DL's will have RFID chips. OH, I got an idea how about RCCL let us use those RFID chipped DL's in place of SetSail Passes? I am liking this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted May 20, 2017 #12 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Unless you are on your way to the airport, get a speeding ticket, and they take your license away like they sometimes do in Illinois. Wow, they take it on the spot? I thought CA was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrzr Posted May 20, 2017 #13 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Missouri legislature passed a bill last week which, if signed by the Governor will require the state to issue real ID compliant licenses to those who want them. It will take two years to get the system in place; the federal government has reportedly agreed to another two year waiver for MO residents of the bill is signed o to law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted May 20, 2017 #14 Share Posted May 20, 2017 "Starting May 15, South Carolinians can start applying for driver’s licenses that can be used to board flights and enter secure federal buildings and military bases. When the new licenses become available, you can order them online. This step is voluntary." -- see below http://www.postandcourier.com/news/south-carolina-rolling-out-new-driver-s-licenses-to-meet/article_1e27e532-2e95-11e7-9334-cfb0fa71b8df.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted May 20, 2017 #15 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Peoples Republic of Maryland allows illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, so those are pretty much worthless for any form of identification.No longer live in MD. Agree with your "People's Republican of Maryland" -- I also used "People's Republican of Montgomery County." I like SC much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted May 20, 2017 #16 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Well Delaware thinks they comply, I was just on their website. I/we are federally approved without a reader?? The process started in 2010 and also says that they will never ask for multiple IDS again unless you change your name etc. The new licenses have a star on them and they put me through hell to get it. BTW my passport should have been accepted, I probably had a fired Royal rep who knew nothing. Greetings from the Diamond State, home of tax free shopping!:halo::halo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 20, 2017 #17 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thanks for the info. I'm shocked Rhode Island is not on the list. We're pretty much last in everything except for beaches. Gregg Interesting, when I think of Beaches, RI never crosses my mind. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted May 20, 2017 #18 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Interesting, when I think of Beaches, RI never crosses my mind. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Not as nice as yours but not too shabby. What does come to mind? Please don't say Family Guy. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 20, 2017 #19 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Not as nice as yours but not too shabby. What does come to mind? Please don't say Family Guy. Gregg The mansions of Newport. And Family Guy. [emoji6] Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted May 20, 2017 #20 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Per AARP: Starting next year, TSA cannot accept some state driver’s licenses that don’t meet acceptable security standards. Travelers, don’t say we didn’t warn you. Beginning in January 2018, driver’s licenses from some states may be rejected as a form of identification for boarding an aircraft. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA), while gradually implementing the REAL ID Act passed by Congress in 2005, has announced that starting next year it cannot accept some state driver’s licenses that don’t meet acceptable security standards. Residents of nine states — Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Washington — may need to use a passport or some other government-approved identification unless their driver’s licenses are changed by next year. Other states have been granted extensions while they prepare to comply with the requirement. Signs have been placed near checkpoints in some airports to notify passengers of the changing requirements. “This doesn’t mean that people will be told, ‘Hey, you can’t fly,’” a TSA spokesman said on Wednesday. “You’ll just have to have another form of ID.” Some states have raised privacy concerns, saying the ID requirements may produce information on individuals that can be compiled in a national database. “This is a game of intimidation being played out between Congress and the federal government and state governments, with ordinary citizens being squeezed in the middle,” Edward Hasbrouck of the Identity Project, a privacy advocate, told the New York Times in December. The REAL ID Act was based on recommendations of the 9/11 Commission to guard against terrorist attacks. Proponents say more stringent IDs may also ward off fraud and identity theft. Nothing new, this been coming for 10 yrs. Gov't been delaying it and states been asking for delays since 2006. States that haven't issued new Driver's Licences are at fault. I'm sure will probably be extended again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hapster85 Posted May 20, 2017 #21 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Per AARP: ... Some states have raised privacy concerns, saying the ID requirements may produce information on individuals that can be compiled in a national database. That argument has never made a lot of sense to me. Our information is already compiled on countless databases, both public and private, so what information could possibly be produced that isn't already out there? Why does the thought of (yet another) national database get people so riled up? Anyway, Kentucky shouldn't be on the non-compliant list anymore. Legislation was finally signed into law in March of this year, and the state will be granted (yet another) extension, until 2019, when they begin issuing compliant ID's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted May 20, 2017 #22 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefighterhoop Posted May 20, 2017 #23 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Minnesota has passed the REAL ID act now, HOWEVER, once the new licenses are available people will need to get a new one to comply UNLESS you already have a Minnesota Enhanced Driver's License. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted May 20, 2017 #24 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Peoples Republic of Maryland allows illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, so those are pretty much worthless for any form of identification.Nonsense. Driver Licenses that are not reflections of proof of citizenship say "NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES" on them. Same with Vermont, Wisconsin and Nevada. Beyond that, they also are perfectly valid forms of identification. They simply don't comply with the REAL ID provisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted May 20, 2017 #25 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thanks for the info. I'm shocked Rhode Island is not on the list. We're pretty much last in everything except for beaches. Gregg I just renewed my license. They look quite different from in the past in order to meet the new standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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