easyboy Posted June 12, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not asking but just sharing this news, especially for new cruisers. Importance of passport and insurance, among others. http://www.wral.com/concord-woman-survives-shark-bite-loses-arm/16757232/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted June 12, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hapster85 Posted June 12, 2017 #3 Share Posted June 12, 2017 More than a little unnerving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyllrap Posted June 12, 2017 #4 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Definitely unnerving. But not enough for me to cancel my snorkeling excursion in Cozumel in September. Prayers for this poor woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted June 12, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Doesn't sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted June 12, 2017 #6 Share Posted June 12, 2017 That's definitely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can't even count the number of times I have been in the ocean and have never seen a shark. All it takes is once time though. Thankfully, the odds are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted June 12, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sharks are in every body of salt water...and even, in some "brackish" water or freshwater in rivers! They are everywhere! It's rare to see them...and even rarer to be bitten! But, it can happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 13, 2017 #8 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Good result with the insurance kicking in, could have been much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted June 13, 2017 #9 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sharks are in every body of salt water...and even, in some "brackish" water or freshwater in rivers! They are everywhere! It's rare to see them...and even rarer to be bitten! But, it can happen! Not so rare to see them around here. Beaches closed a few days each year, see them in the Lake all the time. Biting not so common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 13, 2017 #10 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I have seen them biting and not biting and I know what I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted June 13, 2017 #11 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Thank you for the link. Feel sorry for the poor woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie J. Posted June 13, 2017 #12 Share Posted June 13, 2017 This was a local story yesterday in our news. They also showed a shark on the beach side of the breakers in the beach town next to us, Atlantic Beach, NC. Used to have sand sharks bump into me swimming on Long Island too. Don't know why the shark attacked her though, did she have a sparkling bathing suit on? We have snorkeled all over the Caribbean don't remember if we saw sharks or not. This won't stop us from snorkeling or swimming! Oh, security can get passports out of any safe and get them to the harbor master in situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 13, 2017 #13 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sharks can attack for many reasons and one of them may just be curiosity. Unfortunately a shark's curiosity can still cause a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted June 13, 2017 #14 Share Posted June 13, 2017 This was a local story yesterday in our news. They also showed a shark on the beach side of the breakers in the beach town next to us, Atlantic Beach, NC. Used to have sand sharks bump into me swimming on Long Island too. Don't know why the shark attacked her though, did she have a sparkling bathing suit on? We have snorkeled all over the Caribbean don't remember if we saw sharks or not. This won't stop us from snorkeling or swimming! Oh, security can get passports out of any safe and get them to the harbor master in situations like this. Yes security can and does do this That is why it is so important to not just throw your valuables in the safe but rather put them in a large gallon size plastic zip lock bag and write on the bag... "Bug out bag" However I doubt the security need to be told this as they will fully understand the purpose of that bag when they see it It does help to have your name etc. on the bag though Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hag Posted June 13, 2017 #15 Share Posted June 13, 2017 She's lucky to be alive. She could have bled out right then and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinaS Posted June 13, 2017 #16 Share Posted June 13, 2017 This is why I ALWAYS get trip insurance, and ALWAYS carry my passport - even on closed loop cruises when I don't need to carry it. A medical evacuation by helicopter can easily bankrupt someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted June 13, 2017 #17 Share Posted June 13, 2017 This is why I ALWAYS get trip insurance, and ALWAYS carry my passport - even on closed loop cruises when I don't need to carry it. A medical evacuation by helicopter can easily bankrupt someone. Medivac is done by US Coast Guard so its taxpayers dollars Not at all sure how it would work if it's a medivac by a foreign govt but one would realistically think there are reciprocal agreements in place or perhaps a US military installation nearby such as in Italy or Germany Any pax with serious issues is going to be medivac off the ship regardless of ability to pay and will not be bankrupted because of this. This has been posted ad naseum (sp) btw Where this differs is when you are brought to that hospital in say Norfolk Virginia and you live in California Or you wind up in Bermuda or the Bahamas or the Azores or London or Rome etc Or who knows where on a transpacific Or if your your cruise is in an area where you might want to visit but would never drink the water or trust their medical facilities It's how you get from there to your home or home hospital that will cost you out of pocket and that is why you need travel insurance They will send an RN to the foreign hospital who will accompany you home with the needed methods and precautions in place Plus insurance will pay for your family members hotel so they can stay with you And the will get you home asap once you are stabilized as they want you home just as much as you want to be back home. Try working this out on your own!!! You need the insurance company to be your advocate if you are hurt while traveling. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 13, 2017 #18 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Medivac is done by US Coast Guard so its taxpayers dollars Not at all sure how it would work if it's a medivac by a foreign govt but one would realistically think there are reciprocal agreements in place Any pax with serious issues is going to be medivac off the ship regardless of ability to pay and will not be bankrupted because of this. This has been posted ad naseum (so) btw Where this differs is when you are brought to that hospital in say Norfolk Virginia and you live in California Or you wind up in Bermuda or the Bahamas or London or Rome etc It's how you get from there to your home or home hospital that will cost you out of pocket and that is why you need travel insurance They will send an RN to the foreign hospital who will accompany you home with the needed methods and precautions in place Plus insurance will pay for your family members hotel so they can stay with you And the will get you home asap once you are stabilized as they want you home just as much as you want to be back home. Try working this out on your own!!! You need the insurance company to be your advocate if you are hurt while traveling. Sent from my iPad using Forums I believe what is being discussed is medevac from a foreign port via air ambulance and that is where it can get pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whogo Posted June 13, 2017 #19 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Oh, security can get passports out of any safe and get them to the harbor master in situations like this. I did not check the itinerary, but they might not have been traveling with passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted June 13, 2017 #20 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I believe what is being discussed is medevac from a foreign port via air ambulance and that is where it can get pricey. Yes you are correct and that is why I mentioned those scenarios in my above post but the poster I responded to was talking about helicopter medivac that why I went with that scenario Because that is where medivac is needed but it really needs to be understood that pax are medivac off a ship at no cost Some posters don't know that unfortunately Imho travel insurance is an absolute requirement Heck I buy it when flying to Disneyworld Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefrisco Posted June 13, 2017 #21 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Obamacare doesn't cover that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted June 13, 2017 #22 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On a cruise to Grand Cayman, did the stingrays and snorkeling... a large moray eel attacked a cruiser and it was vicious. I saw it and still have a picture of the eel. He ended up getting rushed to the hospital and something like 100 stitches on his arm. I think the boat that came and got him was with the operator and not necessarily considered a medevac. I'm not sure how the bill was paid at the hospital. Insurance is a good thing to have. He was in a sling/cast the rest of the cruise. These things do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted June 13, 2017 #23 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Obamacare doesn't cover that? Doesn't kick in until the $350,000 deductible has been met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted June 13, 2017 #24 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Obamacare doesn't cover that? Nope. And, Trumpcare won't, either... And, pre-Obamacare didn't cover, either. Medevac off a ship may be gratis if the US Coast Guard is involved. I honestly haven't heard/read that before. BUT, you will pay many other places. And, you will pay for repatriation via air ambulance... Shark sightings are getting more prevalent in Southern California lately, also. More closures already around Newport Beach to San Clemente than normal and it's just the start of summer. The sharks have always been around, but it seems they are gathering more frequently closer to shore - warmer waters breed more food for them to feed on, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted June 13, 2017 #25 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Nope. And, Trumpcare won't, either... And, pre-Obamacare didn't cover, either. Medevac off a ship may be gratis if the US Coast Guard is involved. I honestly haven't heard/read that before. BUT, you will pay many other places. And, you will pay for repatriation via air ambulance... Shark sightings are getting more prevalent in Southern California lately, also. More closures already around Newport Beach to San Clemente than normal and it's just the start of summer. The sharks have always been around, but it seems they are gathering more frequently closer to shore - warmer waters breed more food for them to feed on, I guess. Yes just as I posted in my previous post about medivac Thanks for reiterating it Oh and that posters comment about the "care" insurance was just bait. No need to bite Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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